haha yea i know i saw a vid of a mankey using it and then realized that primeape could learn it too lol
i mean like there's counters for all these pokemon but that means that every team will pretty much have the same pokemon and that's wat i dont like about the way smogon is changing uu. for example, i'd use hitmonlee but everone else uses him so i choose to use primeape instead. oh and yea a close combat still wouldnt kill that rhyperior cus of its high defense, probably 2ko though