Well if you don't want me to be condescending about your skills in whatever it is that you do for a living (?) don't go 'bawwww this is my career' unprompted in the TO. Anyway the point is that that debate had gone on for some time and it was clearly nonsense anyway (lol Piplup vs Groudon) and you, as someone who is an old hand, should have recognised that and nipped it in the bud. Newbies gonna newb but you're not. This is just my view, I couldn't be bothered to shut it down either.