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[Sceptilo]

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Yay, the next monotype team! Part#2: water. So... not much else to say. Changes in bold, the underlined ability is the one I chose. Rules:

Spoiler: Some Rules:

• All abilities are allowed, also unreleased DW abilities.
• Allowed moves: all moves are allowed, but Lv-Up moves only up to Lv. 80.
• Exceptions: No HiddenP. And only stat boosting moves that raise 3 or more stats(shell smash, quiver dance, coil), please.
• No doubled items; no choice band and specs; no focus sash.
• No starter PKMN, and no doubled PKMN in the 17 monotype-teams (I'll mention, if there are some that fit here, but are already in another team.)
• Normally 1 STAB attack per type.
• Only fully evolved PKMN
• NEW: no doubled abilities!
• Only cool PKMN

So, enjoy:

• Sharpedo @ muscle band
• rough skin: not bad, but if sharpedo gets hit, it'll nearly always be OHKOed, so it's rather useless.
speed booost: omg, one of the best abilities in the game!
• adamant
• 252atk, 252spe, HP are useless...
- waterfall
- crunch
- ice fang
- EQ
great offensive stats, defensive stats that are much lower than alakazam's – that's sharpedo!
otherwise:aqua jet is another option, but I don't think it needs it. 252 HP Evs because it does not need speed, but it is so extremely frail, maybe I'm just gonna go with 252spe.

• Cloyster @ king's rock!
• skill link: YYAAAAAAYY!
Shell armor: prevents some hax.
Overcoat: *laugh* an immunity to sandstorm – WOW!
• adamant
• 252atk, 252HP
- Icicle spear
- razor shell
- rock blast
- shell smash
Cloyster how we know and love him. 252 HP, because 140 base speed is enough 8D

• Starmie @ Wiseglasses
• illuminate: one of the best abilities in the game because everyone wants to battle these cute, little wild PKMN
natural cure: cool!
analytic: erm... analytioc at 115 base speed?!?! Who has thought that up?
• modest
• 252satk, 252HP
- surf
- Thunder
- Ice beam
- recover
surprisingly bulky, and extremely dangerous; thunder because of the next guy:

• Politoed @ brightpowder/rocky helmet?
• water absorb: hm; not bad..
damp: in 90 of 100 battles useless.
drizzle: the only reason to use him. Wait, he's funny, that's another reason.
• modest
• 252satk, 252spe
- Scald
- psychic
- hypervoice
- focus blast
The politoed I always use.
supports with rain, and has great coverage. And he's a frog!

• Pelipper @ leftovers ...Choice specs?...
• keen eye: Protects from something nobody uses.
Rain Dish!!t: veery nice, it's a free lefties!
• modest
• 252satk, 252HP
- hydro pump
- Hurrican
- roost/Ice Beam
- shock wave?
one week ago, ludicolo was here, but FoldingScreen convinced me that he's better in the grass team.
then, kingdra visited this place, but I didn't like the idea of two swiftswimmers.
And now, finally I discovered that there are more rain dishers! And this one is a great rain abuser with hurrican.
shock wave is rather useless, but there aren't many other options... protect?
Ice Beam for BoltBeam?

• Kabutops @ expert belt ...Choice Band?...
• Swift swim:really cool; what's a rain team without a swiftswimmer?
battle armor: huh. Inferior.
Weak armor: not bad, but... inferior
• adamant
• 252atk, 252HP
- waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- X-Scissor
great attacker, rather bulky, phyiscally

OTHER OPTIONS: kingdra. Tentacruel. Gyarados. Three PKMN I don't like -.-

Suggestions? Hints? Critique? Other things? 'This team is so cool!'s?​

 

[Funtime]

What about a Hydration Vaporeon with 1 turn Rests? Moody Octillery? Vaporeon is cool and adds stall that is surprisingly missing from a Water team and Octillery has great movepool and is an octopus.

 

[Sceptilo]

Thanks for the suggestions, but you didn't tell me where I should put them, and why I should change the Pokémon...

So,

What about a Hydration Vaporeon with 1 turn Rests? Vaporeon is cool and adds stall that is surprisingly missing from a Water team

Huh, stalling takes hours, and this is mainly used ingame. But hydration is a nice idea; after some investigations, I decided that whiscash is the only PKMN that'd fit here. first I thought to put it >pelipper, but this pelican is a great grass counter, while whiscash has a double grass weakness.

Moody Octillery? Octillery has great movepool and is an octopus.

Moody xD
hmm; 'great movepool'... I think only flamethrower sets it apart from other waters, and that is kinda useless in rain

So I think the PKMN are fine now, but I'd like to hear some ideas about the movesets.

 

[bug pro]

I dont know why someone ever considered metronome on cloyster? Its quite good on him actually.

 

[ZeroEdgeir]

I dont know why someone ever considered metronome on cloyster? Its quite good on him actually.

Except Skill Link (his ideal Ability) eliminates it's benefit, cause multi-hit attacks always hit the full 5x with it (Rock Blast and Icicle Spear). With the King's Rock there, as the Pokemon of the Week for Gen V Cloyster showed, it is like a 42% chance to flinch with Icicle Spear and Rock Blast. It's rather insane.

 

[Purple_Tangrowth]

use freaking choice items. it makes life fun

Kabutops @ Muscle Band
Adamant / Swift Swim
252HP 252Att 4Def or wtv
-Swords Dance
-Aqua Jet
-Return
-Stone Edge

i use this. you use what you like

 

[[GS]]

Politoed wants Ice Beam>Hyper Voice to hit grass types. Since
you have Hydro Pump in Pelipper you can go with Surf or Scald
for accuracy or a burn chance respectively.

Shock Wave isn't doing much for Pelipper with it's low SpA stat,
so go with Ice Beam for some added coverage.

 

[Sceptilo]

Politoed wants Ice Beam>Hyper Voice to hit grass types. Since
you have Hydro Pump in Pelipper you can go with Surf or Scald
for accuracy or a burn chance respectively.

Shock Wave isn't doing much for Pelipper with it's low SpA stat,
so go with Ice Beam for some added coverage.

huh, then everybody would have water/ice... that's boring, isn't it?
and hyper voice is much cooler than ice beam. Have you got other suggestions for its last moveslot? is protect good??
But Scald on politoed is a nice idea, I think I'mm goona take it.

use freaking choice items. it makes life fun

and costs 96 BP who would you give 'em?

Kabutops @ Muscle Band
Adamant / Swift Swim
252HP 252Att 4Def or wtv
-Swords Dance
-Aqua Jet
-Return
-Stone Edge

i use this. you use what you like

--> swords dance... meh. no, please...
--> aqua jet is not needed at 160 base speed imo, and it doesn't have to rely on it against other priority users.
He also is rather bulky (physical) and only one priority attack is special, so I think that's no problem.
-->Return gives perfect coverage, but kabutops is my grass and electric killer:
He's faster than everything and has SE moves on both.
--> stone edge is cool.

That's my idea of kabutops' role.

 

[Purple_Tangrowth]

and costs 96 BP who would you give 'em?

choice items are only 48BP which isn't actually tooo much
A choice band could be used on your current kabutops set

Pelipper @ Choice Specs
Modest / Keen Eye
252HP 252SpA 4Def
-Shock Wave
-Air Shash
-Surf
-Ice Beam

You have a problem with pelipper's low Special Attack? Well specs will make it awesomeley high.
Shock wave is a bit weak but it does boltbeam and then two STAB's .

choice items would really benifit your team. I see you don't like them but they really help. And pretty much most good players uses them unless they are like you and don't like them

aqua jet is not needed at 160 base speed imo, and it doesn't have to rely on it against other priority users.

forgot that you are swift swimming in rain. sorry

And only stat boosting moves that raise 3 or more stats(shell smash, quiver dance, coil), please.

this is quite supid. You want to use shell smash but not swords dance.
Swords dance doesn't hinder you with the defense drops but the boost is the same if you have it on a physical pokemon
just saying

Return gives perfect coverage, but kabutops is my grass and electric killer

X Scissor actually hits grass types super effectieley rarely because most of them are grass and poison or something else. that's why it's not the best. If you get rid of x scissor, then you have the ice beam on politoad and starmie and possibly others to kill grass types.

I would recomment either the choice band on your set or my set but with waterfall > aqua jet. lol

 

[gyaradosuseddragonrage!]

Scald and/or Psyshock can go over Recover on Starmie. Expert Belt is cool for that.

Isn't Blastoise a Rain Disher?

Are you kidding? Octillery has a massive movepool: Surf, Scald, Flamethrower, Sludge Bomb, Energy Ball, Thunderbolt, Fire Blast, and Ice Beam is amazing.

 

[Sceptilo]

choice items are only 48BP which isn't actually tooo much
A choice band could be used on your current kabutops set

both together cost 96 BP... That's the only reason why I try to avoid them.
I was happy to have got ~300 BP to buy LO, toxic orb, etc, and now again 96 BP xD huh, that's much.
And I think kabutops' best selling point is his great coverage, so a CB wouldn't help too much... ? imo expert belt is also a nice boost, isn#t it?

Pelipper @ Choice Specs
Modest / Keen Eye
252HP 252SpA 4Def
-Shock Wave
-Air Shash
-Surf
-Ice Beam

You have a problem with pelipper's low Special Attack? Well specs will make it awesomeley high.
Shock wave is a bit weak but it does boltbeam and then two STAB's .

I don't have a problem with its satk shuckle said that. But you're right that CS would make it great; I wanted it to have roost to make it really bulky, but boltbeam is a nice idea.

choice items would really benifit your team. I see you don't like them but they really help. And pretty much most good players uses them unless they are like you and don't like them

Hey that sounds like 'you are a bad player'^^ 'kay, I'll look if I can get them.

this is quite supid. You want to use shell smash but not swords dance.
Swords dance doesn't hinder you with the defense drops but the boost is the same if you have it on a physical pokemon
just saying

live with that. But thanks for reading my rules

X Scissor actually hits grass types super effectieley rarely because most of them are grass and poison or something else. that's why it's not the best. If you get rid of x scissor, then you have the ice beam on politoad and starmie and possibly others to kill grass types.

damn. but no SD -_-

Scald and/or Psyshock can go over Recover on Starmie. Expert Belt is cool for that.

I know, but with 252 HP, it's rather bulky and can make good use of recover.

Isn't Blastoise a Rain Disher?

Yeah, but I don't wanna use starters here.

Are you kidding? Octillery has a massive movepool: Surf, Scald, Flamethrower, Sludge Bomb, Energy Ball, Thunderbolt, Fire Blast, and Ice Beam is amazing.

surf/scald/ice beam: every water has it.
flamethower/firestorm: useless in rain
thunderbolt/sludge bomb/energy ball: okay, that's rather cool.

But you're right, it does have a massive movepool. gunk shot is also nice

EDIT: @ purple tangrowth: hey, so if I give kabutops a CB, you won't ask for SD anymore, am I right?

 

[gyaradosuseddragonrage!]

Just because it isn't that usable here doesn't reduce its movepool though.

 

[Sceptilo]

That's why I wrote

But you're right, it does have a massive movepool.

with cool moves.

 

[Sceptilo]

okay, last questions:
- ice beam and choice specs on pelipper or roost and lefties.
--->if choice specs, lefties on politoed?

Thanks for your great help.