3rd Pokemon for my 3 Poke Team, HELP

[ChrisPBaken]

Hello, I am new here.
Any way, I was looking for some advice On what I should use as my third poke in my 3 poke team for the super battle subway.
My first two Pokemon, which I will not sway from, are Haxorus and Ferrothorn.

Haxorus, , adamant, 252 attack, 252 speed, sdpf; Draco plate
Brick Break
Earthquake
Dragon Claw/ Dragon Tail/ Swords Dance
Outrage

Ferrothorn (curse), Brave, 210 HP, 100 atk, 52 def, 148 spdef; leftovers
Power Whip
Gyro Ball/ Iron Head
Leech Seed
Curse

My last poke needs to have a resistance to fighting, and/or ice. If not Ice then it needs to have good spdef

Here is what I have so far

Chandelure, 252 sdatk, speed?, Hp?
Chandelure seems perfect, All of my previous weaknesses from my first two pokemon are completely absorbed (Ice, Fire, Fighting). It has a SUPER base special attack stat at 145, and def and spdef at 90.
However, it lacks speed with it only being at 80.
Can I switch into lamp to absorb an attack without being hit twice before I get my move off WITHOUT putting any speed EV's into it? If not, how many should I put into it if I have an IV of 31 for speed?
That is the big question, as it has some serious weaknesses that are prevalent among fighting types (Stone Edge for example)

Second Choice:
Gengar
I lose my resistance to fire, and Ice, but I gain a resistance to ground.
My beef is that I need that resistance to Ice. However, Gengar has a significant speed boost over Lamp.

What Should I do?
Lamp?
Gengar?
Other?​

Edit:
Please give a legitimate reason for your suggestion. For example: I think you should use x over y because although x has slightly higher attack than y, y has significantly higher speed. NOT this: x, cuz x is bettur

 

[Dragontamer1011]

Wait... You mean Ferrothorn right? Not Ferroseed.

Also, Speed is extremely important, so I would say Gengar.

 

[ChrisPBaken]

Wait... You mean Ferrothorn right? Not Ferroseed.

Also, Speed is extremely important, so I would say Gengar.

No, you can't legitimately hatch ferrothorns from eggs. I meant ferroseed.
Ferroseed evolves into ferrothorn at level 40, eggs hatch at level 1. I meant what I said.

 

[ChrisPBaken]

Yeah, I know speed is important, but Gengar can not take ice better than ferrothorn can. Also lamp is not affected by fire if i have flame body.

 

[ChrisPBaken]

Maybe rotom fire? I didn't think of that till just now.

 

[girazard]

No, you can't legitimately hatch ferrothorns from eggs. I meant ferroseed.
Ferroseed evolves into ferrothorn at level 40, eggs hatch at level 1. I meant what I said.

So...evolve it?

 

[gyaradosuseddragonrage!]

If you are against Gengar, then why put it up as an option?

You have a Ferroseed with the required egg move, correct? Train it and evolve it. Boom, you have a Ferrothorn.

Haxorus @ Life Orb
248 Atk/248 Spe/6 HP
Jolly/Mold Breaker
~ Dragon Dance
~ Dragon Claw
~ Substitute
~ Earthquake

 

[ChrisPBaken]

So...evolve it?

Uh.....

Ferrothorn (curse), Brave, 210 HP, 100 atk, 52 def, 148 spdef; leftovers
Power Whip
Gyro Ball/ Iron Head
Leech Seed
Curse

I did......

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Ok, imma drop the act. Yes, I meant to put Ferrothorn instead of ferroseed in the op. I just realized this. This Guys ^^^^ comment ticked me off, and when I went to go check my original post it did in fact say ferroSEED and not Ferrothorn.

However, THAT IS BESIDE THE DANG POINT.

 

[ChrisPBaken]

If you are against Gengar, then why put it up as an option?

You have a Ferroseed with the required egg move, correct? Train it and evolve it. Boom, you have a Ferrothorn.

Haxorus @ Life Orb
248 Atk/248 Spe/6 HP
Jolly/Mold Breaker
~ Dragon Dance
~ Dragon Claw
~ Substitute
~ Earthquake

I am not against Gengar at all, He looks great, However I just want a little more reason than "speed is extremely important".

If i switch out into Gengar he will take a hit fist just as lamp would, but if lamp is fast enough to pull of his attack next without getting ninja'd by the opponent again I would choose lamp because I will be swiching into him to take fire, ice, and fighting moves as they are x0., x0.5, and x0 respectively, where as with a gengar it would be x1, x1, x0 respectively.

 

[chrisv.987]

Hello, I am new here.
Any way, I was looking for some advice On what I should use as my third poke in my 3 poke team for the super battle subway.
My first two Pokemon, which I will not sway from, are Haxorus and Ferroseed.

He was talking about the underlined text so in a sense you were both right.

 

[ChrisPBaken]

He was talking about the underlined text so in a sense you were both right.

no, I was wrong, I edited it so it said ferrothorn, and still missed the underlined ferroseed.

However, that is still beside the point. I am trying to decide between gengar and ghost lamp.

 

[Eliteknight]

Your final pokemon should be
Jellicent@leftovers
bold
water absorb
252hp/252spd/4spa
Recover
toxic/will-o-wisp
surf/hex/scald/acid armour
acid armour/hex/surf/scald

 

[ChrisPBaken]

Your final pokemon should be
Jellicent@leftovers
bold
water absorb
252hp/252spd/4spa
Recover
toxic/will-o-wisp
surf/hex/scald/acid armour
acid armour/hex/surf/scald

You know what, I actually did consider Jellicent, but my mind was set on a hard hitter at the time. It has a resistance to fire and ice, and is immune to water? (with water absorb), fighting, and normal.
I did not see that it had recover though, that really makes it appealing with it's high HP.

Since I am more worried about special than physical I would have toxic over willo wasp

--Jellicent@LEFTOVERS
--Modest/calm
--water absorb--
-
Recover
Toxic
Surf
Acid Armor/hex

 

[Vandslaux]

If you use Jelly, use Scald over Surf.

Also, the choice between Chandelure and Gengar is this: what do you want, Speed or the ability to take a stray hit?

 

[ChrisPBaken]

If you use Jelly, use Scald over Surf.

Also, the choice between Chandelure and Gengar is this: what do you want, Speed or the ability to take a stray hit?

Why would I have scald when I am running toxic? I will just be toxic stalling things my ferrothorn and haxorus don't like.

 

[ChrisPBaken]

so I think I am going to breed a lamp, and a jelly. The jelly's moveset will be the following:

Recover
Acid armor
Toxic
Surf (not scald because I do not need the burn, or do I? I doubt I will be burn stalling lol)

 

[Shine]

for Haxorus, replace Brick Break with Rock Slide.

Fight shares similar coverage with Ground, with the stronger Earthquake being on the second moveslot, Brick Break becomes pointless.

Rock + Ground however, has a wide coverage.






Also, if you're using Outrage, don't use Swords Dance or Dragon Dance. The confusion will ends up killing Haxorus.

IMO, just use the standard Rock Slide-Earthquake-Dragon Claw-Dragon Dance set.

 

[Dragontamer1011]

Uh.....



I did......

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Ok, imma drop the act. Yes, I meant to put Ferrothorn instead of ferroseed in the op. I just realized this. This Guys ^^^^ comment ticked me off, and when I went to go check my original post it did in fact say ferroSEED and not Ferrothorn.

However, THAT IS BESIDE THE DANG POINT.

Woah, I wasn't trying to be a jerk or anything, you might have wanted to use Eviolite Ferroseed, you never know... If I wanted to be a jerk I would have said "DUDE WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU USING FERROSEED FOR IN THE BATTLE SUBWAY HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR TROLOLOLOLOL" Yeh, you get the point, lol. Anyway, sorry if I ticked you off or anything, wasn't my intention.

And for suggestions wise, this was what I was going to try using instead of DD Dragonite for my lead-v

Haxorus- Adamant/ Jolly (With Swords Dance)- @Lum Berry
Mold Breaker- 252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 4 Hp
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Dragon Dance/ Swords Dance
-Dragon Claw/ Taunt

What I like about Haxorus is Mold Breaker laughs in the face of Sturdy which is always a big problem in the Battle Subway. Lum berry allows setting up and healing of confusion after Outrage, Focus sash could possibly me necessary unless you plan to switch him out for all Ice and Dragon types, which is seriously what I do with Dragonite, ha ha. Dragon Claw could be useful in circumstances where you need to alternate don't need Outrages power, but Taunt allows you to stop boosters which ironically is what took me out on my 59th battle (Close to your Curse Ferrothorn build). Since Haxorus is pretty fast already, I don't really think Dragon Dance is necessary. If you ran Jolly and SD, you would only need one SD to get the power of two Dragon Dances when the speed isn't necessary. However, he may not even be fast enough to outrun problem pokemon such as Weavile and Choice Scarf Garchomp, I gotta check the numbers. The last problem is, he isn't the toughest Pokemon around. Powerful STAB attacks can quite possibly KO him, so you have to watch out for that (I.E. Choice Band Archeops with Head Smash, etc).

Also, its pretty important to have counters to both of your leads weaknesses (In my own experience), so I usually make sure I have that for my team. Ferrothorn has his Dragon weakness covered but only Chandelure would take the Ice weakness, so I change my earlier suggestion. *EDIT* Chandelure also covers Ferrothrorns Fire weakness and Ferrothorn covers Chandelures Ghost, Dark, and Water weakness. Thats some epic synergy right there.

Good luck in the Battle Subway, I hope my wall of text doesn't bore you!