7-Star Raids - Strategies, Speculation & Discussion Thread

[Copley Hill Gym]

Pokemon Scarlet - used Koraidon. First raid. Swords dance/screech/drain punch. Was on a team of three other Koraidons. Easy!!

Pokemon Violet - used Annilhape. Also easy, but done on third attempt as people really don't seem to understand tera raids.

Stop bringing water type starters and talonflames to raids where the pokemon is grass and knows stone edge. Not difficult and yet some people are that stupid.

 

[Ophie]

Pokemon Scarlet - used Koraidon. First raid. Swords dance/screech/drain punch. Was on a team of three other Koraidons. Easy!!

Pokemon Violet - used Annilhape. Also easy, but done on third attempt as people really don't seem to understand tera raids.

Stop bringing water type starters and talonflames to raids where the pokemon is grass and knows stone edge. Not difficult and yet some people are that stupid.

Especially Inteleon.

In addition, for reasons I don't fully understand, the Annihilapes I'm partnered with rarely ever Terastallize despite using Rage Fist from the start. I'm also seeing a lot of Perrserkers, who are quickly taken out from Hammer Arm and Earthquake.

As a result, so far, the raid I hosted was the only one that we passed. Everyone else just lets their Pokémon faint, and they never ever use the healing cheer.

 

[Pokefan_1987]

EDIT: Also dont try to use blissey as a healer its to fragile as its pure normal.


Seems like some of the Chesnaught raids have different moves. ⅓ chances of having Earthquake while others have Wood Hammer or even Iron Defense.

I got one with Earthquake but no wood hanmer

 

[Copley Hill Gym]

EDIT: Also dont try to use blissey as a healer its to fragile as its pure normal.


Seems like some of the Chesnaught raids have different moves. ⅓ chances of having Earthquake while others have Wood Hammer or even Iron Defense.

I got one with Earthquake but no wood hanmer

My one on scarlet used, and has, both moves...! My one on Violet only used wood hammer.

How strange!

 

[Auraninja]

Honestly, I brought Bellibolt, but Bellibolt comes with Chilling Water as a debuff and someone else had Reflect.
Also, I didn't know the moveset the first time I did one (don't think Serebii had it up at the time), so I was trying to see if it would work.

 

[Mr.Munchlax]

I'm also seeing a lot of Perrserkers, who are quickly taken out from Hammer Arm and Earthquake.

The Perrserkers may be because they’re hoping to be paired with Gholdengo or Magnezone. The strategy is to have 3 Steely Spirit Perrserkers use Helping Hand & (after one attack cheer) the Gholdengo/Magnezone one-shots Chesnaught with Make It Rain/Steel Beam

It’s literally the ONLY strategy people in my Discord group want to use -_-

 

[Pokefan_1987]

The Perrserkers may be because they’re hoping to be paired with Gholdengo or Magnezone. The strategy is to have 3 Steely Spirit Perrserkers use Helping Hand & (after one attack cheer) the Gholdengo/Magnezone one-shots Chesnaught with Make It Rain/Steel Beam

It’s literally the ONLY strategy people in my Discord group want to use -_-

Annihilape is much better...i probably should have had it with a higher level. Use screech first to weaken Chesnaught during the early fight then use Drain Punch with Shell Bell (i didn't use the last 2 moves)

Level: 75
Ability: Vital Spirit
Tera Type: Fighting
Item: Shell Bell
Nature: Careful
Moves: Drain Punch, Screech, Cross Chop and Rage Fist​

 

[Spider-Phoenix]

Used Koraidon both online and solo. It can handle itself very well as Chesnaught doesn't cleanse its debuffs so any Screeches you land will last until it starts using Bulk Up and Curse when the timer reaches the halfway point. After enough Screeches Drain Punch will keep you alive even in the shield phase and once Fighting Tera is up it's pretty much smooth sailing in Solo (online depends on your teammates of course).

Pokemon Scarlet - used Koraidon. First raid. Swords dance/screech/drain punch. Was on a team of three other Koraidons. Easy!!

It makes me so happy I can solo my favorite starter with my favorite cover legendary

Seems like some of the Chesnaught raids have different moves. ⅓ chances of having Earthquake while others have Wood Hammer or even Iron Defense.

I don't think they are different, it's just that which moves the boss uses are randomly decided. So I'd say the odds are for it using a certain move over another.

While doing the daily Inteleon raids, there was this one day where it was using Tearful Look most of the time (despite my held item being Clear Amulet lol). Then there was this one time where it was using Snipe Shot most of the time.

Very rarely did it use Dark Pulse which is kind of funny

 

[Barrysun]

Annihilape is much better...i probably should have had it with a higher level. Use screech first to weaken Chesnaught during the early fight then use Drain Punch with Shell Bell (i didn't use the last 2 moves)

Level: 75
Ability: Vital Spirit
Tera Type: Fighting
Item: Shell Bell
Nature: Careful
Moves: Drain Punch, Screech, Cross Chop and Rage Fist​

I feel with you whenever someone brings a steel type to the raid and Chesnaught knows earthquake and hammer arm to counter them. I feel more safe with grass types. (and with Arboliva, I learned from each raid on what to use and what not to use. I had to keep spamming mega drain since Hammer arm is super effective against my Arboliva until I can Terastllize it to pure grass type to eliminate the normal-type weakness.

 

[Beloberto]

I don’t know why I doubted Annihilape when this raid was first announced.
Probably the easiest 7* for the monkey to solo so far.


Btw, if there’s one thing I hate about the raids in this game is how unreliable damage is. There are instances when an attack will randomly cause a lot more damage than it was causing (no criticals) or when a critical hit causes an absurd amount of damage (like Chesnaught did 6x more damage with a crit Wood Hammer, when the crit multiplier should be 1,5x).

 

[Smeargle-Sketch]

I don’t know why I doubted Annihilape when this raid was first announced.
Probably the easiest 7* for the monkey to solo so far.


Btw, if there’s one thing I hate about the raids in this game is how unreliable damage is. There are instances when an attack will randomly cause a lot more damage than it was causing (no criticals) or when a critical hit causes an absurd amount of damage (like Chesnaught did 6x more damage with a crit Wood Hammer, when the crit multiplier should be 1,5x).

are you taking into account that crits ignore stat buffs?

 

[Spider-Phoenix]

Koraidon worked great in the first run.

Btw, if there’s one thing I hate about the raids in this game is how unreliable damage is. There are instances when an attack will randomly cause a lot more damage than it was causing (no criticals) or when a critical hit causes an absurd amount of damage (like Chesnaught did 6x more damage with a crit Wood Hammer, when the crit multiplier should be 1,5x).

My main issue is mostly with healing cheers on solo. Sometimes you waste one turn for those and get near to no healing.

Really, it should be set to at least 50% of the health with a chance for more, at least on solo runs.

 

[Ophie]

The Perrserkers may be because they’re hoping to be paired with Gholdengo or Magnezone. The strategy is to have 3 Steely Spirit Perrserkers use Helping Hand & (after one attack cheer) the Gholdengo/Magnezone one-shots Chesnaught with Make It Rain/Steel Beam

It’s literally the ONLY strategy people in my Discord group want to use -_-

Oh yeah, I know about that strategy. Not everyone does though (heck, the people in randomly selected teams rarely have any form of strategy at all), and it'd be incredibly hubristic to not only expect other people to play their game, but to know about it and have a Pokémon ready for it too. So instead, they repeatedly faint. You're best off picking some Pokémon that isn't dependent on the other people picking some other specific Pokémon, because you don't know what the other people will do.

On a related note, occasionally, I'd see a Gholdengo using Nasty Plot, then Steel Beam. This inevitably gets the Gholdengo knocked out repeatedly and drains our timer.

 

[Luthor]

I've had some success with these raids using Appletun after seeing some people use it. With its apple acid lowering the special defence, Giga Drain doing damage and recovering health, Recover for low health, Iron defence to make it easier to take hits (though this does get removed) . Very effective for special attacking teams.

 

[Jesness]

The Perrserkers may be because they’re hoping to be paired with Gholdengo or Magnezone. The strategy is to have 3 Steely Spirit Perrserkers use Helping Hand & (after one attack cheer) the Gholdengo/Magnezone one-shots Chesnaught with Make It Rain/Steel Beam

It’s literally the ONLY strategy people in my Discord group want to use -_-

I wonder if that has anything to do with me getting kicked out of Raids left and right today. I've been using Appleton, the minute I lock it in the host usually abandons the raid. I dunno if they're having bad experiences with Appleton players or if they're looking specifically for Gholdengo or Perserker to partner with. I've done about 20 or so raids today and out of the 20 I only died once. Dunno why people are hating on the pie dragon

 

[Mr.Munchlax]

I wonder if that has anything to do with me getting kicked out of Raids left and right today. I've been using Appleton, the minute I lock it in the host usually abandons the raid. I dunno if they're having bad experiences with Appleton players or if they're looking specifically for Gholdengo or Perserker to partner with. I've done about 20 or so raids today and out of the 20 I only died once. Dunno why people are hating on the pie dragon

From what I’ve seen, there are groups that are looking for a specific team with all of the pokémon, moves, EVs, etc. all planned out so you can one-shot the opponent as soon as possible, and if you don’t have them they’ll abandon the raid

There are some exceptions though since I brought a Farigiraf for the Typhlosion raid since I gave it Light Screen & Trick Room and they told me to just use the Attack Cheer to boost their main attacker

Here are a few more examples for the Chesnaught raid:

 

[Jesness]

From what I’ve seen, there are groups that are looking for a specific team with all of the pokémon, moves, EVs, etc. all planned out so you can one-shot the opponent as soon as possible, and if you don’t have them they’ll abandon the raid

There are some exceptions though since I brought a Farigiraf for the Typhlosion raid since I gave it Light Screen & Trick Room and they told me to just use the Attack Cheer to boost their main attacker

Here are a few more examples for the Chesnaught raid:

I haven't tried this method so I couldn't say for sure- it seems pretty fast with a OHKO on turn 2 but it doesn't seem very fun

 

[Ophie]

For the record, here is a video I have showing how I used Appletun in this raid:

From what I’ve seen, there are groups that are looking for a specific team with all of the pokémon, moves, EVs, etc. all planned out so you can one-shot the opponent as soon as possible, and if you don’t have them they’ll abandon the raid

There are some exceptions though since I brought a Farigiraf for the Typhlosion raid since I gave it Light Screen & Trick Room and they told me to just use the Attack Cheer to boost their main attacker

Here are a few more examples for the Chesnaught raid:

Doing that is a waste of time. They'll never find the raids they want if they expect people to come in with specific Pokémon. Everybody has their own ideas, and there are so many of them that they can't afford to be picky.

 

[Mr.Munchlax]

For the record, here is a video I have showing how I used Appletun in this raid:

Doing that is a waste of time. They'll never find the raids they want if they expect people to come in with specific Pokémon. Everybody has their own ideas, and there are so many of them that they can't afford to be picky.

Plus, it's a little less fun since it sucks out some of the challenge, though Discord groups make it a lot easier. They just say they're doing a specific set like the Gholdengo or Tatsugiri strategy and a good chunk of time players have the right pokemon lined up

Your raid attempt came out great by the way. It looked like a fun challenge!

 

[Ophie]

Plus, it's a little less fun since it sucks out some of the challenge, though Discord groups make it a lot easier. They just say they're doing a specific set like the Gholdengo or Tatsugiri strategy and a good chunk of time players have the right pokemon lined up

Your raid attempt came out great by the way. It looked like a fun challenge!

That's the thing though--my approaches were never designed to be a challenge. They're designed to win raids without any input from my teammates, because I know they're going to pull stuff like Lucario using Brick Break, Koraidon using Close Combat, a freshly caught and untrained Walking Wake, or a Level 67 Flapple (and all of these I actually encountered today).