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A Dish Best Served Cold (Prologue; One-Shot; Action; Some Violence)

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mindripper

Guest
As promised, here is the prologue to my upcoming Fic, No Man Is An Island. It just gives a little backstory to the main character, and is a short enough story to read and enjoy at the same time. There is also a certain biblical quote in there, and a few references to films and the like.

Well, description is relatively precise, and enough hints have been dropped about the main character, even though many more will come and go in times to come. Without further ado, I present the prolouge to No Man Is An Island:

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Revenge, at first though sweet, bitter ere long back on itself recoils. Vengeance, covenant and creed, rights naught but thyself despoils.


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He thrashed in vain, a euphemistic velitation against a fate most unsavoury. Opalescent arms clawed wildly at an umbrageous firmament, thickly embellished and culminated from the various frailties of Man, equal parts Fear, Despair and Hate, clutching at imaginary straws, even as the very air sucked greedily at the last dregs of hope remaining in his broken body, already torpid with apathetic malaise. Directly above, the noxious sky was a fermented broil of darksome clouds, as if it was some diabolical parallax nexus, forming an effective canopy which prevented any light from seeping through. The very ethos of the place resonated with ill intent, and if not for the immutable screams of some unimaginable hapless victim, amplified by the negativity that oozed from every primordial pore present, one would hear the faint piping of some infernally cursed tune, temperate in amplitude but a dread superincumbent weight on any who would hear its abominable consonance.

The ground itself was in a state of salient turbidity, suckling its quarry much like a Portuguese Man-o-War would drape its victims in a mocking caress, ever so slowly drawing him towards its murkily edacious maw. A mouth opened to scream, but only served to churn the negative emotion in the air into a whirling storm of translucent semi-rigidity, before a rush of muddy loam silenced it forever. His hands were held rigidly aloft, in vain hope reaching some form of solidity that simply was not present, or to touch some form of hope amongst the somber nebulousness that the very air personified. Those very fingers would still have been clawing for salvation even as they were swallowed by the insatiable maw, where eternal dissolution would beckon.


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Mother Nature had validated her tag as the greatest artist of them all, an inspiration among muses. A dazzling halo of afternoon light scintillated down onto earth from its perch in the deeply indigo sky, offset and foiled by uncounted terraces of puffy white clouds, drifting lazily in seemingly suspended motion, moving errantly in one direction, before compensating in the other, all the while forming collages of perceptual imagery along their itinerant motion, limited only by one’s vacuoles of supposition.

Beneath, the sea was an ever-changing plethora of alternating peaks and troughs, an expanse of serene tranquility occasionally broken by the errant dolphin or Wailord. Innumerable pinpricks of sparkling lambency served as a fitting tribute, as well as a fitting furnishing to Nature’s dual nature, the sea reflecting and borrowing its luster from the sky, and yet making the latter seem all the more incandescent, while engaging in a vicious cycle from then on.

A yacht streamlined its way through the azure sea, literally making haste while the Sun shone, making its way towards a partially forested peninsula in the distance. Its two inhabitants were both decked out in decidedly naval blue and white uniforms, with gold buttons and trim, completed by a foolish looking baret, as well as a not-so-foolish-looking pistol. Of course, no two clandestine operators would be complete without their full array of Pokeballs as well, and those were hanging from a modified belt which each wore, and which coincidentally held their pistols as well.

“Lawar, I hope to high heavens that we get there soon. I absolutely cannot wait to finish this job and get paid.” The sailor who was driving the yacht broke the icy silence that had been settling between the two, a grimace worn on his tanned face in the way some old veterans of war would wear their battle scars, transforming his features into a nigh unrecognizable mass of flesh, and letting out a sigh to underline his point.

“You got that right, Nolor; these uniforms that are supposed to help us im-per-so-nate the coast guard are absolutely ridiculous. I mean, if our company already has men in the police, and if those very authorities are feeding off our funds, what in the world do we have to be afraid of?” A disgruntled snort punctuated that particularly grumpy reply, even as the speaker absent-mindedly toyed with the safety catch on his pistol.

Behind the two men, in the cargo bay designated for the merchandise they had been slated to transport to a previously agreed rendezvous point, a barrel took those words as a verbal cue, before its lid rose two inches into the air, creating space through which a pair of red eyes stared surreptitiously, before glowering malevolently, and most pointedly, portentously.

“I mean, not even that cache of sapphire medallions is worth all that much trouble.” Evidently, Lawar had more on his mind besides aesthetically displeasing uniforms and corrupt law enforcers.

“On the talk of trouble, perhaps I can be of some worth then?” A decidedly unctuous voice deadpanned, while a furtive glance to their hind quarters by the two sailors gave them a visual insight to the vocal perpetrator—a young man of no more than twenty two, with a lean, wiry frame, flaming eyes and an unpleasant disposition. It could be reasonably inferred, however, that the sailors' eyes were not paying so much attention to their visitor’s physical attributes as compared to his twin Franciscas, with their graceful lines, upswept points and down-turned edges adorning his belt and further wearing out said visitor’s welcome.

“Thanks for the free ride, but as grateful as I am, I would advise you both not to move a muscle, or else.” The threat was left to hang and simmer in the air, as all three men stared unblinkingly at each other.

With a numbingly quick sleight of hand, a single Francisca was drawn in a single fluid motion, held in the man’s left hand, down-turned head facing Nolor’s forehead. A bead of sweat noticeably ran down the sailor’s forehead, streaking his cheek with diluted saline, before falling to deck. Even as the intruder’s gaze turned downwards, tracing the sweatdrop's freefall, Nolor sprang into action, jackknifing a knee upwards, in visible hope of breaking a rib or two. His intended victim had already pirouetted away, utilizing the latent power gifted by the afforded circular motion and cracking an elbow into Lawar’s face. Continuing the motion, he stooped downwards, flicking his wrist in an arc tangentially perpendicular to the back of Nolor’s thigh, severing the hamstring, and stood back even as the resultant spray of blood buffeted his own legs, a layer of visceral liquid running down his pants.

His other leg unable to support the forward momentum gained by jacking his knee upwards, Nolor collapsed onto the deck like a puppet which had its strings cut, screaming in delirious pain. By then, Lawar had recovered enough to draw his pistol, but before the thought of doing anything with it had been imposed on any of his cognitive synapses, the butt of a second Francisca had slammed onto the joint linking his thumb to the rest of his pistol hand, and a sickening crack merely confirmed the obvious. Using the upswept point of a Francisca to extricate the pistol from Lawar’s flaccid grip, the unknown infiltrator chucked the firearm into Davy Jones’ locker, and spun around in such a way that his peripheral vision encapsulated both his victims.

“So, why did the axe cross the road?” A chill smile had crossed the young man’s face. Some smiles show cheer, while some merely show teeth. It would not take a huge leap of logic to figure out which category that smile would fall into.

“I… … I don’t know.” Nolor managed to blurt out an answer, despite being in obviously overwhelming pain.

“Details, details. Just ask him yourself!” A flick of a wrist, and a precognitive widening of the eyes later, the head of one of the two Franciscas had found its mark in the middle of Nolor’s right chest, piercing through flesh and bone as easily as a hot knife would cut through butter. There was no possible contrivance for the dying man to let out one last shriek of pain, anguish or terror, as his lungs quickly filled with crimson blood, a fact quickly borne out by the silent gurgling of blood by the downed man, even as his hands sought purchase on something solid, a final subconscious refusal to believe in the inevitable.

Lawar had instinctively taken a step backwards, and fell to his knees, begging for mercy.

“May the Lord have mercy on me.”

“Love is patient, love is kind.
It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
It is not rude, it is not self-seeking.
It is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth.
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails.

You and your kind showed no mercy to me before. Since the Lord would have mercy on you, the least I can do is to arrange that meeting.”

An axe head flashed downwards, and to an onlooker, would seem to be a unique knighting mannerism by some member of the monarchy, while the resultant spray was highlighted even more by the evening sun, cloaking all in a blood-red veil of serendipity.

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The sanguine beauty of the evening sun had given way to a tenebrous layer of Stygian night, bedizened exiguously by several impuissant stars, mirroring their past of years ago, even as the unfathomable expanses of the sea kept out of vision’s reach, its constant erosional tussle with the land the only clue to its presence. An Edenic calm had descended over the whole area, a geography of peace imposed over the hustle that daylight would suffer. He saw only visions of fire, of screaming, of bleeding, of scarred visages once held dear, of Death itself, and of his own survival. Resolve and hate simmered beneath his calm countenance, reserved both for his enemy and for himself.

His right hand gripped a Francisca, with two seemingly new notches carved onto the blade surface, while his left gripped a Pokeball. “Snap, our game begins tomorrow. Finally, after all these years, we are… … We are home.”

“Mother, Father, your son has returned, ten years too… … late.” His voice broke as he finished the sentence, and he gripped his Francisca all the tighter for it.

They bit off more than they could chew.

Astor had returned home.

Caveat Emptor. Caveat Emptor.

He had left plenty of space on his Francisca blade faces for new notches.

Revenge is a dish best served… … COLD

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Note:

A Francisca is a throwing axe used by Vikings, and the little poem is actually a quote from the bible, and is used for characterisation.
 
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Elemental Charizam

Sudden Genre Shift
He thrashed in vain, a euphemistic velitation against a fate most unsavoury. Opalescent arms clawed wildly at an umbrageous firmament, thickly embellished and culminated from the various frailties of Man, equal parts Fear, Despair and Hate, clutching at imaginary straws, even as the very air sucked greedily at the last dregs of hope remaining in his broken body, already torpid with apathetic malaise. The sky was a fermented broil of darksome clouds, forming an effective canopy which prevented any light from seeping through. The very ethos of the place resonated with ill intent, and if not for the immutable screams of some unimaginable hapless victim, amplified by the negativity that oozed from every primordial pore present, one would hear the faint piping of some infernally cursed tune, temperate in amplitude but a dread superincumbent weight on any who would hear its abominable consonance.
Wow, what a vocabulariffic (not a real word) first paragraph; to be honest, I think it limits your audience as I wouldn't imagine there are that many people here that understands every word there =/ Stylistically, I personally dislike beggining decriptions with things like 'The sky was a...' becauseit just seems a rather lazy way to construct sentences. Plus I just plain don't like it :D Personal qualm, though, so meh. The last sentence was rather long, though you kept to the topic, with so manycommas its easy to lose yourself the other side and use the wrong forms of words, if you see what I mean.

Language had an undesired effect on me; it took me out of the story whenever I puzzled over a word, which was two or three times overall. Not good.

Though there was little discovered from this prologue that you didn't tell us in the thread, it was presented quite nicely and the italicized piece was quite intriguing, and I have a few ideas as to what it might be. Dramaticized ending (... ...COLD) was overdone a bit; I reckon it would've gone better with only one elipse, or none at all. IMO, obviously.
 
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mindripper

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Yeah, I know about the style, but i do not know if I should change my style just to appeal to more people.

You know, when I wrote that over the last couple hours, I felt that the italicised portion had one or two parts that did not flow. Will edit later. As for the end, I wanted to have a little B-moive kinda easter egg. Guilty pleasure. And no need to excuse your opinions. They are just as validated as anybody else's.
 
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Spewy05

Guest
I thought this was going to be a poem. Some words I don't know, but I found it written well! That guy is cruel.
 
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Ouallada

Guest
One-shot, and a prologue as well. I will review this first, seeing I will be handling all one-shot reviews for the awards as well.

Mindripper, your greatest ability is also your greatest shortcoming. You have a great natural writing ability, and your extensive show of vocabulary had me scrambling at times, and the way everything is meshed together gives your descriptive paragraphs a distinctly ethereal quality. For example, even if a word gives me difficulties, I subconsciously get the feeling that the word is right where it belongs, and that the description is poorer without it. It almost has a rhythmic quality. As I said, your greatest ability is also your greatest shortcoming. Your descriptive style is superfluous and relies on a lot of flair, but you do have a knack of pricing yourself out of others' categories. Showboating aside, let me say for the record that it is my opinion that most people around here would love to have a style like that, BUT as of now they probably would not take very kindly to READING something written with said style. Your first two paragraphs, as well as the short prose right at the start, were extremely intimidating in terms of wordplay and usage, and that will not sit kindly with some of the people aound here. They may never get past those two paragraphs. On with the rest of the stuff.

Mother Nature had validated her tag as the greatest artist of them all, an inspiration among muses. A dazzling halo of afternoon light scintillated down onto earth from its perch in the deeply indigo sky, offset and foiled by uncounted terraces of puffy white clouds, drifting lazily in seemingly suspended motion, moving errantly in one direction, before compensating in the other, all the while forming collages of perceptual imagery along their itinerant motion, limited only by one’s vacuoles of supposition.

Beneath, the sea was an ever-changing plethora of alternating peaks and troughs, an expanse of serene tranquility occasionally broken by the errant dolphin or Wailord. Innumerable pinpricks of sparkling lambency served as a fitting tribute, as well as a fitting furnishing to Nature’s dual nature, the sea reflecting and borrowing its luster from the sky, and yet making the latter seem all the more incandescent, while engaging in a vicious cycle from then on.

While not so imposing as the italicised paragraphs, these two are a refreshing take on Nature's beauty, albeit possibly still putting other people off.

before glowering malevolently, and most pointedly, portentously.

Very pointed description.

flicking his wrist in an arc tangentially perpendicular to the back of Nolor’s thigh, severing the hamstring

There it is again. That knack of making everything flow stylishly. While good from a pure writing view, some people are going to have to stop and wonder what a tangentially perpendicular arc is, and then try to visualise it i their heads. To those who had to do that, it might tae away a little from the notion.

“So, why did the axe cross the road?” A chill smile had crossed the young man’s face. Some smiles show cheer, while some merely showed teeth. It would not take a huge leap of logic to figure out which category that smile fell into.

“Details, details. Just ask him yourself!”

Alrighty, that is a one-liner sequence to remember.

a precognitive widening of the eyes later

Was this widening done by the victim or the intruder?

“May the Lord have mercy on me.”

You and your kind showed no mercy to me before. Since the Lord would have mercy on you, the least I can do is to arrange that meeting.”

Another sequence that shows what kind of character and the kind of mercy your main character has. The biblical quote sandwiched between makes the point much more poignant, although I cannot really imagine anyone saying those lines aloud! The poem, I mean. Perhaps you should have used another quote, or perhaps you were just trying to make the character seem all the more like some cocky and heartless cross between a villain and a hero. I do not know.

An axe head flashed downwards, and to an onlooker, would seem to be a unique knighting mannerism by some member of the monarchy, while the resultant spray was highlighted even more by the evening sun, cloaking all in a blood-red veil of serendipity.

Impactful scene, and a great way to end off that portion. The relatively simple words there, as well as the imagery of knighting being tragically parodied, as well as the evening sun offsetting the spurt of blood is very well done indeed.

Snap, our game begins tomorrow

Is "Snap" a verb or a pronoun? if the latter, is it referring to the enemy or a Pokemon?

They bit off more than they could chew.

Astor had returned home.

Caveat Emptor. Caveat Emptor.

He had left plenty of space on his Francisca blade faces for new notches.

Revenge is a dish best served… … COLD

Very dramatised scene. Some will like it, some wil not, but all should agree that it is powerful enough way to sign off. Oh, buyer beware indeed.

His right hand gripped a Francisca, with two seemingly new notches carved onto the blade surface

He had left plenty of space on his Francisca blade faces for new notches.

I was wondering why you used "carved" and not scored or scratched. In light of references, would this be one of them? Specifically, an ode to the pirate tradition?

All in all, you have shown great range as a writer, and partially because anyone who has read the Song of Life or anything by you will know how different this work is from those. From descriptive poetry to poetic description, you have convinced me at least that your flexibility and natural ability ranks highly indeed, but the key is to convince yourself to put a leash on that ability at times, to tone down sequenced when you have to. A fiction is something that the reader mut be able to partake in, and a lot of people are going to be intimidated by your words. Otherwise, it has been a pleasure, and I took joy in making my first review in over a week, and in dissecting your work as well. No Man Is An Island should be just as good, and I await.
 

The Burnt Shadow

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)
Another good one. You always know how to interest readers. Good description and that was good prologue. I especially like this part you wrote...

“Love is patient, love is kind.
It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
It is not rude, it is not self-seeking.
It is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth.
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails.

Well overall it's a pretty impressive start, especially with all the description and vocab. This fic of yours will do well...
 

katiekitten

The Compromise
Yet again another fabulous work from the famed mindripper. :)

It is a good very good start to what should be a fantastic fic, from what I saw here and in the Authors cafe. Great description, but I do have one little quirk. I don't recognize quite a few of the words in the first part. I will put them below, in bold from the extract... (The ones I believe I have heard before are in italics)

He thrashed in vain, a euphemistic velitation against a fate most unsavoury. Opalescent arms clawed wildly at an umbrageous firmament, thickly embellished and culminated from the various frailties of Man, equal parts Fear, Despair and Hate, clutching at imaginary straws, even as the very air sucked greedily at the last dregs of hope remaining in his broken body, already torpid with apathetic malaise. Directly above, the very sky was a fermented broil of darksome clouds, forming an effective canopy which prevented any light from seeping through. The very ethos of the place resonated with ill intent, and if not for the immutable screams of some unimaginable hapless victim, amplified by the negativity that oozed from every primordial pore present, one would hear the faint piping of some infernally cursed tune, temperate in amplitude but a dread superincumbent weight on any who would hear its abominable consonance.

The ground itself was in a state of salient turbidity, suckling its victim much like a Portuguese Man-o-War would drape its victims in a mocking caress, ever so slowly drawing its murkily edacious maw. A mouth opened to scream, but only served to churn the negative emotion in the air into a whirling storm of translucent semi-rigidity, before a rush of muddy loam silenced it forever. His hands were held rigidly aloft, in vain hope reaching some form of solidity that simply was not present, or to touch some form of hope amongst the somber nebulousness that the very air personified. Those very fingers would still have been clawing for salvation even as they were swallowed by the insatiable maw, where eternal dissolution would beckon.

Yeah, there's quite a lot. A little bit of advice, maybe try not to use so many big words in description. It's fine in poetry, but I don't think it quite works in fanfictions. But that is just my opinion.

Apart from that, it is spectacular; as always. :)
 

Xiang

Well-Known Member
Do you PM me to ask me to read your work and compliment it? Because I can really find nothing wrong with it (as I am not experienced in reviewing on flow and that category.

The description and really big range of vocabulary shows brilliance, but it seems a little too flowery. It's a whole mass of visualizing and then getting confused. If I were to read it, perhaps a few words could be simplified so I could get the picture. The two italicized paragraphs are the ones I could not interpret, but the next to I got it. (Nice metaphors! ^^)

Overall, your work is very impressive, but it seems too impressive. Doesn't make sense, does it? XD
 
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mindripper

Guest
Omg, that is one heck of a long review, and because it does not focus on spelling errors it means that I have a lot to answer to.

There it is again. That knack of making everything flow stylishly. While good from a pure writing view, some people are going to have to stop and wonder what a tangentially perpendicular arc is, and then try to visualise it i their heads. To those who had to do that, it might tae away a little from the notion.

Yeah it has become a habit. Everything has to seem ethereal when I have descriptive paragraphs. A tangentially perpendicular arc is not really that hard to visualise if you know what a tangent is, which I am sure many f the people know. You underestimate them a little, Ouallada.

Alrighty, that is a one-liner sequence to remember.

This fellow is someone who is pretty damn anti-heroic. He probably had the deaths of those two sailors on his mind all along, and was just looking for a way to validate and cindicate his actions. He is not necessarily a brave or honourable person always, as will be shown in later chapters.

Was this widening done by the victim or the intruder?

By the victim, as is proven to be a reflex action before abrupt death.

Another sequence that shows what kind of character and the kind of mercy your main character has. The biblical quote sandwiched between makes the point much more poignant, although I cannot really imagine anyone saying those lines aloud! The poem, I mean. Perhaps you should have used another quote, or perhaps you were just trying to make the character seem all the more like some cocky and heartless cross between a villain and a hero. I do not know.

As I have said, the character will be fleshed out gradually, and yes, it does show the kind of merct, or lack thereof that the character shows to those in his way. Obviously toying with them.

Is "Snap" a verb or a pronoun? if the latter, is it referring to the enemy or a Pokemon?

Will be revealed in chapter one.

I was wondering why you used "carved" and not scored or scratched. In light of references, would this be one of them? Specifically, an ode to the pirate tradition?

Yup, very glad someone spotted it. Those notches were not a result of wear and tear, but rather were carved into the blade surfaces of the axes by the main character himself, with each notch representing a kill. Was it a pirate tradition? It could have been. Or it might have been a Mongolian tradition. Will check it out.

Yet again another fabulous work from the famed mindripper.

Katie, I am not famed by any stretch of the word.

For all those words that you had in bold, every one of them does exist, although some are in rarer forms. "Euphemistic", for example, is drawn from "euphemism", while "consonance" is drawn from "consonant". Some words, like "velitation", are pretty rare words that cannot be found in all dictionaries. If you would like me to, I can contact you with the full list of the words' meanings.

Do you PM me to ask me to read your work and compliment it?

Lol. I PMed you asking you to critique the work. I really hoped to have someone dissect my fic like Ouallada did above and tell me something which I can work on. Glad you enjoyed it in any case.

As to description, there is this unwritten benchmark within myself that I try to reach every time I write something as far as description goes. I want to do it to almost the best, if not the best, of my abilities. I understand that it might not always be the wisest choice, but it is the only choice that I can live with. As for the words, I do not use a thesaurus. Blame it on my younger formative years, when I was about in primary school. I used to read a damn dictionary, and had an interest in old, archaic words. You know what they say about words-- use a word thrice in writing, and the word is yours to keep forever. That is mainly how I manage to remember those words, even though it has been so long ago, and if I feel that another word would do better than a simple version, I tend to veer towards using the more appropriate word, even though some may not understand what it means.
 

Elemental Charizam

Sudden Genre Shift
Oullada's post made me think. I think it was the flow that was the problem in the beggining; your mind usually fills in words you don't know for you from the information gleaned from either side, but here mine just didn't. Meaning and flow seemed to be dragged to the altar of 'impressive' words every so often.

Asfor the IMO thing, I wasn't trying to make excuses for my opinions, just people are generally more ready to read & take heed if you slap IMO on the end :p Plus I was working pretty much solely out of opinion and not generally accepted standars and such.
 
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mindripper

Guest
You will be surprised. Have changed from last time. Unless it is a direct insult on myself, I am pretty receptive of critique.

It is a terrible dilemma. If you were in a situation when you were describing something and you feel that a more difficult word would do much better than a simpler one in getting the true meaning across, would you use that word or compromise? I am talking about the meaning that the author wants to get across, not a compromised version of events in which substitute words are used because the optimum one is archaic? I understand that meaning would be lost if the reader does not understand, but would meaning not be lost from the author's POV if he is not allowed to use all tools at disposal? i really do not know.

In my only defence, I will just say that at least I feel that it had an ethereal, otherworldly feel, as compared to my more mundane paragraphs where everything is restrained due to circumstance. You ever had such problems before?
 

Wes

Iblis Wings
Very very well done mindripper. I like your style even more after seeing this. You just get and build up the tension nicely while giving us some good details. ell about what you siad...well readers do have to undertsand the point your're trying to get across...but it be a shame too not to use all the words avalible right now as well...perhaps not too often? Anyway nice job. You always make interesting reads...the serious styled ones as well...question...why wite the prologue as a one shot to your fic? I don't usaully see that done but just curious that's all.
 

Naraku_Diabolos

DNC20/NIN10
mindripper said:
“Love is patient, love is kind.
It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
It is not rude, it is not self-seeking.
It is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth.
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails.

That's my favorite quote from the Bible and A Walk To Remember in the wedding scene. Always makes me cry... I have the movie and I watch it constantly. I love Mandy Moore <3 Too bad I claimed her on the Celebrity Thread. ;)

Anyways, the FanFic sounds good. It has a dark mood to it. Do you use a Thesaurus on words that have common meaning and replace them with advanced spelling? I do that on school projects and essays that are typed.

However, the advanced method you used with thesaurus words might be a bit confusing. I had to use my Microsoft Encarta Dictionary/Thesaurus/Translator to read and understand some words.
 
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mindripper

Guest
Very very well done mindripper. I like your style even more after seeing this. You just get and build up the tension nicely while giving us some good details. ell about what you siad...well readers do have to undertsand the point your're trying to get across...but it be a shame too not to use all the words avalible right now as well...perhaps not too often? Anyway nice job. You always make interesting reads...the serious styled ones as well...question...why wite the prologue as a one shot to your fic? I don't usaully see that done but just curious that's all.

Hmmm, my writing style was always more suited towards serious topics, but T&T was immense fun to write as well. This work is just meant to ensure that some questions are already answered before the fic even begins, and at the same time posing a few more, which not many will spot as of now, I guess.

As to why I wrote this as a one-shot, the story itself will have to wait a couple weeks at least, and I did not want to leave the thread hanging for so long. Besides, the prologue can stand by itself as a work, and thus I made the decision. I will add the prologue to the story when I post it.

That's my favorite quote from the Bible and A Walk To Remember in the wedding scene.

Ah, glad you like the quote. I watched that movie, but cannot seem tor emember hearing that quote in the movie. Need to watch the DVD again, I guess. Digressing from the topic, while Mandy Moore is undoubtedly a fine specimen, she seems to have lost it a little in terms of career and after the whole Roddick affair, IMO.

Oh I do not usually use a thesaurus. As I mentioned, thanks to my reading of a Webster's when I was younger for some weird reason I cannot fathom right now, I have a lot of words swimming in my head right now. Usually I just check to see if the word's meaning is what I remember it as, and then use it. Very rarely do I use a thesaurus, as that is not vocabulary, it is plain verbage, at least most of the time.
 
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Dragonight

Guest
Well done on the fic this is the best one I've seen
EVER
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mindripper

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Well done on the fic this is the best one I've seen
EVER

New reader, always good. Well, you made my headache feel a little better. Look out for the fic itself. It will not be any poorer than this. Astor was a damn fun character to write about.
 

Chibi Pika

Stay positive
*Opens mouth to speak.*
Silverwing;249;: Go ahead Chibs, I'm anxious to see what you can possibly say when you didn't understand a single word in the first paragraph. *gets clobbered.*

I'll say right off the bat that this is different--unlike any one-shot I've ever read, even if it is a prologue at the same time. Now...I'm unsure of whether my dislike of the first two paragraphs is because I think it doesn't fit, or because it has a way different feel than the rest of the piece, or because I have a very small vocabulary and didn't understand a word of it, let alone how it all fit together.

I dunno, I'm supporter of the view that a deep, mature piece can be achieved with the showy use of language, but I can't diminish this work's quality simply becuase it isn't quite my taste, and in any case, I doubt show had anything to do with your word choice.

Now, once it got into the main story stream, I managed a better grip upon exactly what was transpiring, although even then, there were quite a few parts there I didn't catch what it meant until two paragraphs later. Sort of like when you read something with distractions in the room--although you're reading every word, hardly any of it registers in your mind. Although distraction played no part for me--I'm alone right now.

I must admit, however, that "ask him yourself" line was pure gold. ^^

But anyways, I've pretty much babbled on like someone who has no idea what she's talking about throughout this whole thing.

Yeah...*shuffles off.*

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mindripper

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I'll say right off the bat that this is different--unlike any one-shot I've ever read, even if it is a prologue at the same time. Now...I'm unsure of whether my dislike of the first two paragraphs is because I think it doesn't fit, or because it has a way different feel than the rest of the piece, or because I have a very small vocabulary and didn't understand a word of it, let alone how it all fit together.

Hey there, I cannot say too much at the moment about why the first two paragraphs are in there, but suffice to say that it will be further explored once the fic itself gets under way. I wrote the first two paragraphs to feel very very different, I wanted to achieve an otherworldly effect that the rest of the fic would not have to such an extent.

I dunno, I'm supporter of the view that a deep, mature piece can be achieved with the showy use of language, but I can't diminish this work's quality simply becuase it isn't quite my taste, and in any case, I doubt show had anything to do with your word choice.

I believe in a slick style, but I do not try to show off, and never will I do so.

Now, once it got into the main story stream, I managed a better grip upon exactly what was transpiring, although even then, there were quite a few parts there I didn't catch what it meant until two paragraphs later. Sort of like when you read something with distractions in the room--although you're reading every word, hardly any of it registers in your mind. Although distraction played no part for me--I'm alone right now.

Basically, that was the effect I wanted, and also partly why this is a one-shot, because it is partially intentional that questions are left unanswered.

For example, not many people are going to catch the notion of carving notches into weapons as a means of counting kills, but Ouallada sort of got that. There are a couple more references, though.

I must admit, however, that "ask him yourself" line was pure gold. ^^

And many more to come from the man himself, although you will get to see a little bit of why he is not everybody's idea of a hero.

All in all, I am really glad that you reviewed, and were not merely complimentary. THANKS for the review, and I hope to be able to repay the favour.
 
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Ouallada

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Yup, very glad someone spotted it. Those notches were not a result of wear and tear, but rather were carved into the blade surfaces of the axes by the main character himself, with each notch representing a kill. Was it a pirate tradition? It could have been. Or it might have been a Mongolian tradition. Will check it out.

Do let me know on that one, the knowledge will be useful. I like the symbolism for that one.

Some words, like "velitation", are pretty rare words that cannot be found in all dictionaries. If you would like me to, I can contact you with the full list of the words' meanings.

That is right, I could not find it in my dictionary, and it was a pretty comprehensive one. I did find it on a site for rare and difficult english words. I do not know if that is a good thing, though.

I used to read a damn dictionary, and had an interest in old, archaic words. You know what they say about words-- use a word thrice in writing, and the word is yours to keep forever. That is mainly how I manage to remember those words, even though it has been so long ago, and if I feel that another word would do better than a simple version, I tend to veer towards using the more appropriate word, even though some may not understand what it means.

Reading a dictionary? That has to be a first for me. I do not know if you are doing the right thing by flexing your verbal muscle. To me, it can be a double edged sword. On one hand, it can really impress, as I can tell that those words were interwoven with a good deal of skill, and were not simply replaced using a thesaurus. On the other hand, Charizam has a point in noting that people do get sidetracked by these words. Charizam, there is no need for the inverted commas around "impressive", because many would kill for a vocab like that, and the ability to use it.

Overall, your work is very impressive, but it seems too impressive. Doesn't make sense, does it? XD

On the other hand, it does make perfect sense. You write like an optimist, one who believes mostly in the inherent beauty of the language when used properly, but mostly choose to put less emphasis on the realistic side of writing, and thus price yourself out of range at times. If you had been writing for learned adults, they would appreciate it much better, although I would say the words used would still stump several. As it is, people are still impressed by your work, as is to be expected, but I am guessing that most of them do NOT truly understand your message, and perhaps some are impressed by the fact that they are overawed by the words.

I'll say right off the bat that this is different--unlike any one-shot I've ever read, even if it is a prologue at the same time. Now...I'm unsure of whether my dislike of the first two paragraphs is because I think it doesn't fit, or because it has a way different feel than the rest of the piece, or because I have a very small vocabulary and didn't understand a word of it, let alone how it all fit together.

Another one to prove my point. I understand what you were writing about, and I understand why those two paragraphs were written that way, and why they deliberately distanced from the rest of the story, but some people are not going to figure it out. I am guessing we will find out more about that vision in the future.

I believe in a slick style, but I do not try to show off, and never will I do so.

I believe you on that, but it is so so easy to believe that you are showboating. I can tell when a person is merely using formulaic description, defined as the supplanting of big words into an ordinary descriptive style, in the hope that those additions would make one seem more learned. I have edited enough works by people who do that, and I snicker every single time at how well these words backfire. It actually makes a person who does that seem inherently insecure and worse off than he started off. You have no such problems, but others migh see that as a problem.

And yes, after reading your preview again in the AC, I like the one-liners even more. Unlike Chibi Pika, I like the second one better. The victim asking for the Lord's mercy, while Astor offers to arrange that meeting. That one is just good. However, you might want to be careful. A character with those kind of lines may seem like a badass, and it may be contradictory if he seems a little cowardly in the future, but it could add a lot of depth and realism if done well. Good luck on that, and hope to see your responses to my questions soon.
 

Praxiteles

Friendly POKéMON.
Hi! It took me a while to come here, but better late than never, as I always say!

Anyways, it seems that the others have already highlighted the important parts, so I only have one mistake and a strange phenomenon to tell you.
First, the mistake.

The ground itself was in a state of salient turbidity, suckling its victim much like a Portuguese Man-o-War would drape its victims in a mocking caress

In this sentence, the repeated word 'victim' (which I've put in bold) just stuck in my mind. As all good authors know, not putting enough distance between two words which are the same is never a good thing!

Otherwise, it's one of the best fics I've read, and is way up into the rank of superior fics.
 
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