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A Meeting of Two Journeys (909)

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The Strongest Mega Battle! Greninja VS Mega Charizard!!

Having runited with their friend, Sawyer, Ash & Sawyer decide to have a battle to show eachother their improved skill. However, during the battle, Greninja undergoes its transformation again. Discussing their theories as to why Greninja does this, they all come at a loss. However, in the next morning, Team Rocket appear to abduct Pikachu but before they can, Alain appears. Will he have the answers?

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Afrodisiac

break up w yo gf, im bored
Hawlucha already defeated Shelgon in the first minute of the episode LMAO, Pikachu crushed Honedge :S

Poor Shota can't catch a break.

Alain's mega bracelet reacted to Ash-Greninja right? We need some translations badly!

As expected, Greninja was defeated by Blast Burn. Ash didn't faint or anything

Also IIRC, Ash didn't even mention his Charizard or thought about it, some people will fume @ this, LOLZ!
 
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Captain America X

Well-Known Member
Hawlucha already defeated Shelgon in the first minute of the episode LMAO, Pikachu crushed Honedge :S

Nice.Hawlucha the dragon and fairy slayer is at work again.

Man,Shota is gonna need a really huge power boost by the league to defeat Ash(if he is the one who does so) or even to give him an extremely hard battle.
 

Rizardon

Boulder Trainer
Hawlucha already defeated Shelgon in the first minute of the episode LMAO, Pikachu crushed Honedge :S

Poor Shota can't catch a break.

Actually, the fact that Shota keeps losing badly here will only make it worse if Ash somehow ends up losing to him in the league.
 

nickdt

Well-Known Member
Hawlucha already defeated Shelgon in the first minute of the episode LMAO, Pikachu crushed Honedge :S

Poor Shota can't catch a break.

And that is exactly the reason why i hate the best Kalos mon is with a rival and not with Ash.
 

Mega Altaria

☆~Shiny hunter▢~
Hawlucha already defeated Shelgon in the first minute of the episode LMAO, Pikachu crushed Honedge :S

Poor Shota can't catch a break.

Alain's mega bracelet reacted to Ash-Greninja right? We need some translations badly!

As expected, Greninja was defeated by Blast Burn.

Literally everything was totally as expected, Ash beating Sawyer and Alain crushing Ash. At least it seems more interesting that Ash-Greninja emits Mega Evolution energy though, I expect more information soon.
 

jjgury

Well-Known Member
This was a solid episode, but it definitely felt a bit rushed at times. This probably could have been a 2 parter but they wanted to put a lot of things into this one.
 

UltimateNinja

Praying for the holy relics
So after 70 episodes, Ash finally lost once more.

Did Ash fainted?
 

AshSerena

Well-Known Member
Hawlucha already defeated Shelgon in the first minute of the episode LMAO, Pikachu crushed Honedge :S

Poor Shota can't catch a break.

Alain's mega bracelet reacted to Ash-Greninja right? We need some translations badly!

As expected, Greninja was defeated by Blast Burn. Ash didn't faint or anything

Also IIRC, Ash didn't even mention his Charizard or thought about it, some people will fume about it LOLZ!

not sure if his Mega bracelet is reacting to Ash-Greninja(i dont see any blinking or sparking) but he said something like " Mega evolving without a keystone?, thats how strong their bond?" something like that :p
 
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Afrodisiac

break up w yo gf, im bored
How good was it then - the battles on a scale of 1-10

1-2/10? Both battles were rushed as hell. At least the Ash vs. Shota battle was horrid until Sceptile hit Greninja with dragon pulse & leaf storm, but Ash-Greninja OHKO'd it so it didn't matter after all. The previews spoiled the whole Ash vs Alain battle save for 1 or 2 seconds of footage plus the conclusion, so overall it didn't live up to (my) expectations.
 

nuzamaki90

Well-Known Member
So let's talk about that Ultimate Weapon prototype Xerosic and the admins were using

Were they not always on that island at the end or did they just create Yggdrasil?
 

Janovy

Banned
So let's talk about that Ultimate Weapon prototype Xerosic and the admins were using

Were they not always on that island at the end or did they just create Yggdrasil?
My stream was super laggy, so that was the Ultimate Weapon prototype of something similar?

That pretty much confirms they're leaving Lysandre's goal from the game intact.
 

Hero of Truth

Lillie Fan
So let's talk about that Ultimate Weapon prototype Xerosic and the admins were using

Were they not always on that island at the end or did they just create Yggdrasil?

They better debut AZ if it indeed was a UW prototype... I'm curious as heck. I really need to know what they were doing on that island.

Also, I definitely did not expect we would see TF Admins in the anime.

Edit: Greninja'd.
 

Almighty Zard

He has returned.
Also IIRC, Ash didn't even mention his Charizard or thought about it, some people will fume @ this, LOLZ!

he didn't mention his Sceptile when Sawyer mentioned it could mega evolve either.

This episode really does seem rushed though, they didn't even show Sawyer saying goodbye to the group.

It seems Alain's key stone didn't react to Greninja, what about that device he had?

Doesn't look like Greninja did much to Charizard either despite the mode change.
 
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Pikachu52

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It's gone the way everybody expected. Ash beat Sawyer and then lost to Alain. How people can think Sawyer will beat Ash at the league when he once again lost using Pokémon with a type advantage over their opponent.
 

Almighty Zard

He has returned.
It's gone the way everybody expected. Ash beat Sawyer and then lost to Alain. How people can think Sawyer will beat Ash at the league when he once again lost using Pokémon with a type advantage over their opponent.

it's because to some people this rivalry seems like Ash and Paul's rivalry, only nicer and the roles reversed, and you know what happened in the end.

Though imo Sawyer seems like he's heading down the same route Barry and Bianca took where the starter does ok in fights, but everything else gets beaten down easily.

What did Alain tell Lysandere?
 
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It's gone the way everybody expected. Ash beat Sawyer and then lost to Alain. How people can think Sawyer will beat Ash at the league when he once again lost using Pokémon with a type advantage over their opponent.

Same way Paul slayed Ash every time he could except the league. Sawyer is going to defeat Ash @ the league. It's obvious.

OT: Who animated this episode? Ash vs Alain looked super cheap. 6/10 episode imo.
 

Pikachu52

Well-Known Member
Same way Paul slayed Ash every time he could except the league. Sawyer is going to defeat Ash @ the league. It's obvious.

OT: Who animated this episode? Ash vs Alain looked super cheap. 6/10 episode imo.
Paul and Sawyer aren't really comparable situations. For one thing Ash wasn't a total novice when he took on Paul. The skill gap between the two of them was much less. For another Paul didn't slay Ash except for that one battle at Lake Verity - for the most part they were evenly matched and Ash did take out some of Paul's Pokémon. Sawyer hasn't come close to doing that. Finally Paul was a demonstrably bad character so the defeats made Ash's victory at the league more significant. Being a underdog to Paul benefited Ash because it empowered him and made the audience empathize with him. That doesn't really apply to Sawyer simply because he's not the protagonist. A loss to a novice of limited skill at the league does nothing for Ash as a protagonist except likely annoy his fans.
 
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