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A rather bad team

Koubagia

Superluminal Porygon
Yeah, this team used to be pretty good about a month ago, but for some reason it dies in the current metagame waay more often than it once did. Anyway, here it is:

Snorlax
(M) @ Choice Band ** Sleeper
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 82 HP / 252 Atk / 176 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Return
- Shadow Ball

My favourite opening by miles. No-one expects a CBlax, and I get at least one kill every match. Has the staying power to switch back in a few times, too. It even works as a bit of a special wall, though Celebi is my main one and I rarely use it for that purpose.


Forretress
(M) @ Leftovers ** Rollem
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 200 HP / 96 Atk / 214 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Explosion
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

I hate it, I only use it for the combination Spikes/Spin. It walls things, but it can't damage the opponent either and ends up losing. This needs fixing.


Porygon2 @ Leftovers ** Nurbs
Trait: Trace
EVs: 228 HP / 172 Def / 110 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Thunderbolt
- Toxic

I love this guy, against the right team it totally owns with it's awesome stalling-ness.


Miltank (F) @ Leftovers ** Kanatim
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 148 HP / 110 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Heal Bell
- Milk Drink

Cleric and mini Curselax. I actually prefer it to the Snorlax variant because you can Milk Drink rather than having to rely on Rest, which gives the opponent a window to switch in a counter.


Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Volture
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 106 HP / 152 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Standard Zapdos. Special attacker, not much else to say.


Celebi @ Leftovers ** Tardis
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 150 Def / 108 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

Calm Minder used mainly as a special wall. Doesn't do anywhere near as well as it used to.


I know there are a couple of big weaknesses like Raikou and Zapdos, but if it was a perfect team I wouldn't be asking for help with it.
 

Tazzler

Well-Known Member
I like rock resists.

You shouldn't have problems with Raikou and Zapdos with CMCele, just get a calm or bold nature on it if you aren't baton passing (which btw zapdos makes a standard, but good recipent). I prefer Stalkdos myself.

Also, good luck switching into heracross.
 

Koubagia

Superluminal Porygon
Wow, all your problems without solutions are so helpful for fixing my team...

I'll change Celebi for the standard CeleJump, then. I'd rather change Forretress for something else than make it better since I hate it so much, but if I have to keep it can you suggest a full EV spread?
 

aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
3 normal pokemon and a celebi just asks for heracross rape
 

snorlax

Banned
phan wants

Earthquake
Rock Slide
Hidden Power [Bug]
Rapid Spin
 

Koubagia

Superluminal Porygon
With updates then...

Snorlax (M) @ Choice Band ** Sleeper
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 82 HP / 252 Atk / 176 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Return
- Shadow Ball

Donphan (M) @ Leftovers ** Rollem
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 98 Atk / 160 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Roar
- Rapid Spin

Porygon2 @ Leftovers ** Nurbs
Trait: Trace
EVs: 228 HP / 172 Def / 110 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Thunderbolt
- Toxic

Miltank (F) @ Leftovers ** Kanatim
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 148 HP / 110 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Heal Bell
- Milk Drink

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Volture
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 106 HP / 152 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Celebi @ Leftovers ** Tardis
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 150 Def / 108 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Baton Pass
- Psychic
- Substitute

Any ideas about my Heracross problem?
 

Koubagia

Superluminal Porygon
^okay, that makes sense. Once again, any solutions to my Heracross problem?
 

Koubagia

Superluminal Porygon
I just got rid of Forretress... look at the updated team please.
 
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