A Sandstorm team without Sandstorm is like a...never mind (RMT)

[Salavoir55]

Heatran (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
Modest Nature (+Sp. At, -At)
EV's: 252 Sp. At / 16 Sp. Df / 240 Spd
- Overheat
- Hidden power [Ice]
- Earth Power
- Flash Cannon

One of my favorite leads. Also makes a very nice revenge killer. Might change this to Stalktran with LO and switch Machamp for a bulky Mence, but then I lose a good lead, a nice revenge killer, some speed on this team, and I won’t really have anything else that can lead well. Unless, of course, I ignore the second restalker and switch Champ for Mence anyways.

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sandstream
Adamant Nature (+At, -Sp. At)
EVs: 252 HP / 140 At / 116 Spd
- Dragon Dance
- Substitute
- Crunch
- Earthquake/Stone Edge

This guy was originally meant to beat Blissey/Cresselia, stop Raikou, stop Suicune to an extent, and break a stall. He was not really meant to sweep or stop its counters, which is why Earthquake is there to hit Raikou and Crunch for a reliable hitting move.

However, I still might switch to Stone Edge to hit Suicune a little harder, but he loses to other Tyranitar then. So the debate is between Earthquake and Stone Edge. I also was thinking about Ice Fang for Dragons and ttar counters, but as I said before, he wasn’t meant to sweep.

At any rate, Substitute almost always guarantees this thing 2 DD’s. As some of its counters are pretty shaky, they are 2HKO’ed by Crunch because they aren’t used to that kind of power when it comes to countering DDtar. Obviously, Skarm still walls this and will Whirlwind it away, but once again, I never meant for this thing to sweep (although it still can with proper setup)

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Df / 90 Sp. At / 32 Spd
- Calm Mind
- Wish
- Hidden Power [Fighting]/Psychic
- Thunderbolt

Should I use Hidden Power [Fighting], or should I go with the standard Psychic? Hidden Power [Fighting] is a very nice surprise for Weavile, Tyrantiar, and Magnezone. Fighting and Electric doesn’t make that bad of a combo either. However, it shouldn’t really stay in on those pokes (except for Magnezone), so its real purpose is to prevent Magnezone from beating it. However, it may be able to take care of Magnezone anyways, but it still makes a nice surprise.

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Sassy Nature (+Sp. Df, -Spd)
EVs: 252 HP / 132 Df / 32 Sp. At / 92 Sp. Df
- Earthquake
- Gyro Ball
- Grass Knot
- Stealth Rock

Thank you Fighting Master for the EV Spread. No Hypnosis, sadly, but Grass Knot 2HKO‘s Swampert.

Machamp (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Guts
Adamant Nature (+At, -Sp. At)
Ev’s: 212 HP / 16 At / 180 Df / 76 Sp. Df / 24 Spd
- Cross Chop
- Stone Edge/Ice Punch
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

I was thinking of using Ice Punch to take care of Ttar’s problems (Donphan, Hippo, Breloom, Gliscor). I also was thinking of using Life Orb with No Guard and Dynamic Punch, but I'm not sure of that because of LO+Sandstorm damage. At any rate, while asleep, it 2HKO’s Swampert with Cross Chop.

Cresselia (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Calm Nature (+Sp. Df, -At)
EVs: 252 HP / 212 Df / 40 Sp. At / 4 Sp. Df
- Charge Beam
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Although 2 restalkers aren’t necessary on a team, they are pretty helpful. More than once, on some of my other teams, I have sent out my restalker to absorb status then wish I had another one to absorb status instead of letting my one and only restalker get slowly worn down. Also, thanks again to Fighting Master for the EV spread.

I might have trouble with spikes/rocks, but, anyways, rate away.

 

[Prio]

Heatran: Dark Pulse over Flash Cannon, Earth Power takes care of the same things Flash Cannon and more.

T-Tar: DDTyranitar does not need Substitute.

 

[Salavoir55]

Heatran: Dark Pulse over Flash Cannon, Earth Power takes care of the same things Flash Cannon and more.

Usually, I would agree with you, but Flash Cannon is a 2HKO on Ttar, which is kind of necessary for this team as I don't really have a "true" Ttar counter. Overheat hits Cressy and Dusknoir a little harder, and besides, I have Tyrantitar to take care of those two.

T-Tar: DDTyranitar does not need Substitute.

Yeah, I know it doesn't, but I was attempting to combine the defense of boah with the power of DDtar. Basically, it's supposed to be like a CMkou. In fact, I had considered Curse for it earlier, but he needs to be faster in order to take care of Raikou.

With Taunt instead of Subsitute, it will probably get only one DD if any. With substitute, he has a good chance of getting two DD's which is what I wanted him to do in order to take care of Raikou. Also, if it's in against a Poke like Blissey, I'll get to see who my opponent has to stop Tyranitar and if it's a poke that can't break a 101 Sub, then I'll automatically get 2 DD's in.

However, I do see your point with Taunt (which is what I'm assuming you want me to use instead of Sub), but I'd rather more comments on that before I switch. Also, for right now, Sub will be better as the Bliss/Cress/or whatever poke I switch it into will be expecting something like a CBtar and may not switch for fear of Pursuit.

 

[Raito]

I really like this team.

No fixes, but two RestTalkers without a Cleric to wake them up if necessary is iffy imo, but still an awesome team.

 

[Skater Trainer]

Yes I like it too orignal somewhat and looks like it wil work well. But I agree with raito go with a cleric if possible. I really like the boah-dd-tar very original.

 

[SHUCKLE MAN]

Give Heatran Explosion, and if you give it Choice Specs, then you can 2HKO Tyranitar with Earth Power.

 

[Salavoir55]

I really like this team.

No fixes, but two RestTalkers without a Cleric to wake them up if necessary is iffy imo, but still an awesome team.

Yes I like it too orignal somewhat and looks like it wil work well. But I agree with raito go with a cleric if possible. I really like the boah-dd-tar very original.

Why thank you very much. I shall consider a cleric, but there may not be room for it.

Give Heatran Explosion, and if you give it Choice Specs, then you can 2HKO Tyranitar with Earth Power.

Once again, although normally I would agree with you, there are a couple of problems with that on this specific team. I don't need Explosion for Blissey as Machamp/Tyranitar are more than enough for it, and if I lose Choice Scarf, then I lose my lead. The only one who I could even consider leading with might be Jirachi (I dislike setup leads so Tar and Zong are a no-no for leading), but even then, it doesn't make that great of a lead.

Also, with Choice Specs I'll lose some much needed speed (and a revenge killer) on this team. As Heatran is, if a DDtar is at the half mark range and has one DD, then Heatran can KO without fear, where as with Specs...well, I think you get my meaning.

So, unless others start suggesting Specstran with BOOM, it's staying as it is.