I've been curious about trying this one out for myself, but instead of just a simply survey I thought a debate would be more interesting.
If you know much about ethics, you've probably heard of a little thing known as the Heinz dilemma. I'll post it in its entirety a little further down. The importance that this hypothetical has in the world of ethics is that it was used to formulate Kohlberg's stages of moral development. These stages are basically the reason I wanted to debate this. What I'm most curious about is how we are willing to weigh these stages of moral development. By that I mean, despite the fact that we may have access to every stage of moral reasoning, does that mean that our reasoning always relies upon the highest accessible branch, or do the lower levels of morality have a certain amount of weight even though they are ultimately very rudimentary ideas.
Anyways, I'll post the Heinz dilemma now, and then afterward I'll summarize the six stages that Kohlberg proposes (sans stage 7 because nobody really has any evidence on it)
The dilemma:
A woman was near death from a special kind of cancer. There was one drug that the doctors thought might save her. It was a form of radium that a druggist in the same town had recently discovered. The drug was expensive to make, but the druggist was charging ten times what the drug cost him to produce. He paid $200 for the radium and charged $2,000 for a small dose of the drug. The sick woman's husband, Heinz, went to everyone he knew to borrow the money, but he could only get together about $1,000 which is half of what it cost. He told the druggist that his wife was dying and asked him to sell it cheaper or let him pay later. But the druggist said: "No, I discovered the drug and I'm going to make money from it." So Heinz got desperate and broke into the man's store to steal the drug for his wife.
Should Heinz have broken into the laboratory to steal the drug for his wife? Why or why not?
For this debate, I would ask that you answer the question at the end of the dilemma, and then fully, and I mean FULLY, explain your reasoning behind your answer. The debate has two stages:
1. Whether or not Heinz should have stolen the drug
2. Whether or not your reasoning is correct
This debate is interesting in that it will be hard to say exactly why somebody will be wrong in the second respect. While we can say that universal human rights exist and are important, why should they have more weight then selfish desires? Obviously you'll come up with something, I'm kinda curious where this will end up though.
For those of you would like to learn a little more, here's a rough description of Kohlberg's stages of moral development... I question telling everybody about these because it could influence your response, but I figure you all have access to the internet anyways so it's really not gonna hurt all that much.
Pre-conventional stages- Most common in young children, this level is purely egocentric and cares mostly, if not entirely, about the consequences your actions will have on yourself.
Stage 1 (obedience and punishment): Individuals focus on direct personal consequences. Things are wrong if they incite punishment, and things are more "wrong" when the punishment is more severe.
Stage 2 (self-interest): Individuals focus on direct personal gains. This stage of thinking doesn't really care about the needs of others, unless the needs of others will benefit yourself.
Conventional stages- Common among adolescents, this level judges the morality of actions by comparing the actions to society's views or expectations.
Stage 3 (interpersonal accord and conformity): Individuals focus on the perception that society has regarding their actions. "Do unto others..." is a good example of this stage. This stage also begins to consider the intentions of the action, and not just the ultimate result.
Stage 4 (authority and social-order maintenance): Individuals focus on obeying laws and other social conventions. In this stage, individual needs take a back seat as the need to maintain order becomes more important. Usually, a central idea determines what is right and wrong (i.e. fundamentalism). A single transgression opens the door for everybody else to commit crimes, and when a law is broken it is considered morally wrong.
Post-conventional stages- Also known as the principled level, in this level individuals realize that they are separate from society. In this sense, the ideals of the individual are viewed before the ideals of society. Because of the "self before others" idea, it's easily confused with the pre-conventional level; however, this level is much more developed in its thought processes.
Stage 5 (social contact driven): Individuals are known to hold different values and beliefs. Thus, moral reasoning is based on providing the greatest good for the greatest number of people, often through compromise. Those that are not achieving this goal should be changed.
Stage 6 (universal ethical principles driven): Individuals recognize universal ethical principles. Laws are valid only if they are just, and in order to preserve justice it is understood that some laws must be disobeyed if they are unjust. Decisions are met by adhering to a categorical imperative. In this sense, an action is never a means, but always an end, simply because it was the right thing to do and not because it was instrumental, expected, legal or previously agreed upon. Apparently, it is almost unheard of somebody to consistently reach stage six reasoning, and thus, it is the least common of all stages.
It should also be noted that it's rare for people to take the time to consider the ethical repercussions of their actions before doing them. However, for the sake of the argument, we're just gonna assume that Heinz took a lot of time to think about stealing that medicine.
If you know much about ethics, you've probably heard of a little thing known as the Heinz dilemma. I'll post it in its entirety a little further down. The importance that this hypothetical has in the world of ethics is that it was used to formulate Kohlberg's stages of moral development. These stages are basically the reason I wanted to debate this. What I'm most curious about is how we are willing to weigh these stages of moral development. By that I mean, despite the fact that we may have access to every stage of moral reasoning, does that mean that our reasoning always relies upon the highest accessible branch, or do the lower levels of morality have a certain amount of weight even though they are ultimately very rudimentary ideas.
Anyways, I'll post the Heinz dilemma now, and then afterward I'll summarize the six stages that Kohlberg proposes (sans stage 7 because nobody really has any evidence on it)
The dilemma:
A woman was near death from a special kind of cancer. There was one drug that the doctors thought might save her. It was a form of radium that a druggist in the same town had recently discovered. The drug was expensive to make, but the druggist was charging ten times what the drug cost him to produce. He paid $200 for the radium and charged $2,000 for a small dose of the drug. The sick woman's husband, Heinz, went to everyone he knew to borrow the money, but he could only get together about $1,000 which is half of what it cost. He told the druggist that his wife was dying and asked him to sell it cheaper or let him pay later. But the druggist said: "No, I discovered the drug and I'm going to make money from it." So Heinz got desperate and broke into the man's store to steal the drug for his wife.
Should Heinz have broken into the laboratory to steal the drug for his wife? Why or why not?
For this debate, I would ask that you answer the question at the end of the dilemma, and then fully, and I mean FULLY, explain your reasoning behind your answer. The debate has two stages:
1. Whether or not Heinz should have stolen the drug
2. Whether or not your reasoning is correct
This debate is interesting in that it will be hard to say exactly why somebody will be wrong in the second respect. While we can say that universal human rights exist and are important, why should they have more weight then selfish desires? Obviously you'll come up with something, I'm kinda curious where this will end up though.
For those of you would like to learn a little more, here's a rough description of Kohlberg's stages of moral development... I question telling everybody about these because it could influence your response, but I figure you all have access to the internet anyways so it's really not gonna hurt all that much.
Pre-conventional stages- Most common in young children, this level is purely egocentric and cares mostly, if not entirely, about the consequences your actions will have on yourself.
Stage 1 (obedience and punishment): Individuals focus on direct personal consequences. Things are wrong if they incite punishment, and things are more "wrong" when the punishment is more severe.
Stage 2 (self-interest): Individuals focus on direct personal gains. This stage of thinking doesn't really care about the needs of others, unless the needs of others will benefit yourself.
Conventional stages- Common among adolescents, this level judges the morality of actions by comparing the actions to society's views or expectations.
Stage 3 (interpersonal accord and conformity): Individuals focus on the perception that society has regarding their actions. "Do unto others..." is a good example of this stage. This stage also begins to consider the intentions of the action, and not just the ultimate result.
Stage 4 (authority and social-order maintenance): Individuals focus on obeying laws and other social conventions. In this stage, individual needs take a back seat as the need to maintain order becomes more important. Usually, a central idea determines what is right and wrong (i.e. fundamentalism). A single transgression opens the door for everybody else to commit crimes, and when a law is broken it is considered morally wrong.
Post-conventional stages- Also known as the principled level, in this level individuals realize that they are separate from society. In this sense, the ideals of the individual are viewed before the ideals of society. Because of the "self before others" idea, it's easily confused with the pre-conventional level; however, this level is much more developed in its thought processes.
Stage 5 (social contact driven): Individuals are known to hold different values and beliefs. Thus, moral reasoning is based on providing the greatest good for the greatest number of people, often through compromise. Those that are not achieving this goal should be changed.
Stage 6 (universal ethical principles driven): Individuals recognize universal ethical principles. Laws are valid only if they are just, and in order to preserve justice it is understood that some laws must be disobeyed if they are unjust. Decisions are met by adhering to a categorical imperative. In this sense, an action is never a means, but always an end, simply because it was the right thing to do and not because it was instrumental, expected, legal or previously agreed upon. Apparently, it is almost unheard of somebody to consistently reach stage six reasoning, and thus, it is the least common of all stages.
It should also be noted that it's rare for people to take the time to consider the ethical repercussions of their actions before doing them. However, for the sake of the argument, we're just gonna assume that Heinz took a lot of time to think about stealing that medicine.
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