A Wonder Guard Sableye

[Koubagia]

I was just wondering if in the theoretical situation that a Sableye had Wonder Guard, would there be any way to kill it? Remember that Sableye has no weaknesses. This is what we have so far:

• Destiny Bond
• Foresight followed by a Fighting move
• Confusion
• Poison
• Burn
• Spikes
• Sandstorm
• Hail
• Leech Seed
• Ghost Curse
• Perish song
• XD Shadow Attacks
• Future Sight/Doom Desire
• Recoil Damage
• Rough Skin

Bear in mind that because Sableye gets Refresh and Recover, nearly all of these wouldn't work in practice.

 

[Char1016]

No, and no-one is crazy to make him with Wonderguard.

 

[The Benmeister]

But if you did, someone could just use Foresight then a fighting attack. There goes your strategy.

 

[Koubagia]

I'm not talking about making one, that's impossible. I'm just talking about "in theory".

Foresight, Destiny Bond, I considered these. Any others?

 

[Mystify]

Burn.

Poison.

Confuse.

Spikes (If they kept switching in)

Sandstorm

Hail.

 

[Smile Guy]

Maybe if you threw a poke ball at it...?

 

[noh8red32]

Would Hipnosis then Dream Eater/NightMare work against it? I've PWND alot of trainers using that combo!! (Traded my Gengar from Fire Red to my Emerald and he rocks!!)

 

[The Benmeister]

Ghost is not super effective against Sableye, so no.

 

[Koubagia]

Burn. How would you burn it? It resists fire, including Will-O-Wisp.

Poison. How would you poison it? It resists poison, including Toxic e.t.c.

Confuse. I'm not sure about this one, maybe. Wouldn't it resist Confuse Ray e.t.c.

Spikes (If they kept switching in) I suppose.

Sandstorm That would be one slooow method, but it would work.

Hail. Slooow again, but it would work.

So, our solutions so far:

• Destiny Bond
• Foresight
• Confusion?
• Poison?
• Burn?
• Spikes
• Sandstorm
• Hail

 

[Freeze Knight]

So, our solutions so far:

• Destiny Bond
• Foresight
• Confusion?
• Poison?
• Burn?
• Spikes
• Sandstorm
• Hail

Leech Seed

 

[noh8red32]

how about exposion?

 

[Freeze Knight]

how about exposion?

It's a normal type attack so it wouldn't effect Sableye even without Wonder Guard.

 

[Koubagia]

Leech Seed maybe, athough it resists Grass...

I'll add it with a question mark anyway.

Solutions:

• Destiny Bond
• Foresight
• Confusion?
• Poison?
• Burn?
• Spikes
• Sandstorm
• Hail
• Leech Seed?

 

[Freeze Knight]

Leech Seed maybe, athough it resists Grass...

I'll add it with a question mark anyway.

Solutions:

• Destiny Bond
• Foresight
• Confusion?
• Poison?
• Burn?
• Spikes
• Sandstorm
• Hail
• Leech Seed?

Leech Seed effects Sableye! So does Confusion, Burn and Poison...

 

[noh8red32]

twister? thanks for all the advice on my moves!

 

[Koubagia]

Leech Seed effects Sableye! So does Confusion, Burn and Poison...

But they're not super effective...

twister?

I don't think so, same with Wrap/Fire Spin. Because they do damage, it would just prevent them.

 

[Freeze Knight]

twister? thanks for all the advice on my moves!

Ok, to make this clear... no attacking move (except if you use Foresight, Lock on, Mind Reader... I'm not really shure about this attacks) effects Sableye if it has Wonder Guard...

 

[Koubagia]

Lock on and mind reader? I thought about those, but they just improve accuracy, don't they? Only foresight has the Ghost-attacking advantage bit.

 

[Freeze Knight]

Lock on and mind reader? I thought about those, but they just improve accuracy, don't they? Only foresight has the Ghost-attacking advantage bit.

As I said before... I'm not shure about these 3 moves...

And explain why is Shedinja hit by Sandstorm and Spikes even though it isn't effective on it?

That proves that Sableye can be hit by Leech Seed, Burn, etc.

 

[The Benmeister]

Okay, it's only attacking non-super effective moves that don't hit. Non attacking non-super effective moves do hit (which is why Toxic works on Shedinja).