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AAAHHH!!!! Help The Battle Fronteir is Attacking Me!!!

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Overheat Hothead

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Yeah i am having BF problems!! Sop i am redoing my team this is what i haved planned.

The first Trio

Charizard@Salac Berry
Jolly Nature
Evs: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 6 Hp
-Fireblast
-Belly Drum
-Arial Ace
-Earthquake

Gengar @Shell Bell (Item Clause :()
Lonely Nature
Evs: (this is where i need help the most)
-Sludge Bomb
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Psychic
(i am pretty looking for a Mixed Gengar set)

Umbreon @Leftovers (i think it needs it the most)
Impish Nature
Evs:???
-Curse (Pass to Gengar)
-Toxic (I cant get Sub)
-Baton Pass
-Wish (to pass to the others)

Trio 2

Heracross @ Choice band
Adamant Nature
Evs: ???
-Megahorn
-Rockslide
-Brick Break
-Facade

Gardevoir @ Shellbell (item clause :()
Modest Nature
Evs: ???
-Psychic
-Calm Mind
-Wil-O-Wisp (to burn Heracross:D )
-Thunderbolt

Registeel @Leftovers (Needs it the most)
Bold Nature (Cant be changed :()
Evs: It isn't Ev trained but i can get rid of them with the berries
-Thunderbolt
-Curse
-Metal Claw
-Thunderwave
 
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RoboRaph

Well-Known Member
If you are Baton Passing Curse with Umbreon, give the recipient (Gengar in this case) a White Herb to lose the speed penalties. It works well with Aerodactyl if you can get it, or perhaps your Heracross if it's decently fast.
 
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Droglas

Guest
Overheat Hothead said:
Yeah i am having BF problems!! Sop i am redoing my team this is what i haved planned.

The first Trio

Charizard@Salac Berry
Jolly Nature
Evs: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 6 Hp
-Flamethrower
-Belly Drum
-Arial Ace
-Earthquake

Gengar @Shell Bell (Item Clause :()
Lonely Nature
Evs: 252 Spc Attck/ Attck 4 Speed-Sludge Bomb
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Psychic
(i am pretty looking for a Mixed Gengar set)

Umbreon @Leftovers (i think it needs it the most)
Impish Nature
Evs:252 Speed/Defense 4 Sp Defense
-Curse (Pass to Gengar)
-Toxic (I cant get Sub)
-Baton Pass
-Double Team

Trio 2

Heracross @ Choice band
Adamant Nature
Evs: 252 Attck/Speed 4 Defense
-Megahorn
-Rockslide
-Brick Break
-Facade

Gardevoir @ Shellbell (item clause :()
Modest Nature
Evs: 252 Sp. Attck/ Sp Defense 4 Speed-Psychic
-Calm Mind
-Wil-O-Wisp (to burn Heracross:D ) ???
-Thunderbolt

Registeel @Leftovers (Needs it the most)
Bold Nature (Cant be changed :()
Evs: It isn't Ev trained but i can get rid of them with the berries
-Thunderbolt
-Curse
-Metal Claw
-Thunderwave
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Your team is fine now!
 
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Overheat Hothead

Custom User Title
well i really dont wanta use the old 252/252/6 Ev sets because there not really the best. and the reason i put W-O-W to burn Heracross is because it has guts and Facade! :D
 
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WhiteWizard42

Master Breeder
Overheat Hothead said:
well i really dont wanta use the old 252/252/6 Ev sets because there not really the best. and the reason i put W-O-W to burn Heracross is because it has guts and Facade! :D
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burn + guts + facade = weaker than brick break
70*1.5*2*.5 = 105
75*1.5 = 112.5

don't burn it, toxic it. besides, how are you going to burn your own heracross with your gardevoir? it's obviously not a double battle team, or it would have 4 pokes.

252/252/6 is good on CBcross, and it's a lot better in-game than on NB, because there's not benchmark stats you need to get to, you just figure out which stats you need most and dump it all in that. and the more exact spreads depend on your IVs, so you can't really do them in-game.
 
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shiron

best dragon trainer
The first Trio

Charizard@Salac Berry
Jolly Nature
Evs: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 6 Hp
flamethrower
brick break
-Arial Ace
-Earthquake

Gengar @white herb(Item Clause )
Lonely Nature
Evs: (this is where i need help the most)
-Sludge Bomb
-Shadow Ball
focus punch
shadow punch
(if you wanted to use baton pass with umbreon for its phisical stats this is the moveset for you)

Umbreon @Leftovers (i think it needs it the most)
Impish Nature
Evs:???
-Curse (Pass to Gengar)
-Toxic (I cant get Sub)
-Baton Pass
-Wish (to pass to the others)

Trio 2

Heracross @ Choice band
Adamant Nature
Evs: ???
-Megahorn
-Rockslide
-Brick Break
-Facade

Gardevoir @ Shellbell (item clause )
Modest Nature
Evs: ???
-Psychic
-Calm Mind
thunderwave
-Thunderbolt
thunderwave is there so you wont get rid of heracrosses atk when you give it its stats condition

Registeel @Leftovers (Needs it the most)
Bold Nature (Cant be changed )
Evs: It isn't Ev trained but i can get rid of them with the berries
-Thunderbolt
-Curse
-Metal Claw
-filler
i dont know you decide
 
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SwordofAeons

Degeneration X
Overheat Hothead said:
Yeah i am having BF problems!! Sop i am redoing my team this is what i haved planned.

The first Trio

Charizard@Salac Berry
Jolly Nature
Evs: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 6 Hp
-Fireblast
-Belly Drum
-Arial Ace
-Earthquake
Good.
Gengar @Shell Bell (Item Clause :()
Timid Nature
Evs: 252 sp atk/spd. 6 Hp
-WoW
-Ice Punch
-Thunderbolt
-Psychic
(i am pretty looking for a Mixed Gengar set)
Special is Better for BF. If u dont want a special Gengar then dont bother taking these suggestions.
Umbreon @Leftovers (i think it needs it the most)
Impish Nature
Evs:???
-Curse (Pass to Gengar)
-Toxic (I cant get Sub)
-Baton Pass
-Wish (to pass to the others)
Fine.
Trio 2

Heracross @ Choice band
Adamant Nature
Evs: 252 atk/spd, 6 hp.
-Megahorn
-Rockslide
-Brick Break
-Return/EQ

Gardevoir @ Shellbell (item clause :()
Modest Nature
Evs:252 sp. atk/spd 6 hp.
-Psychic
-Calm Mind
-Wil-O-Wisp (to burn Heracross:D )Not a good idea.
-Thunderbolt

Registeel @Leftovers (Needs it the most)
Bold Nature (Cant be changed :()
Evs: It isn't Ev trained but i can get rid of them with the berries
-Thunderbolt
-Curse
-Metal Claw
-Thunderwave
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Dunno.
I tried lol.
 
G

Greek Saw

Banned
Instead of Heracross, you might want to use a Dragon or Ghost Pokemon. But don't take my word for it.
 
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StrayedBullet

OMFG................
You'll probably want Overheat>Fire Blast on Zard.
I like Sub/FP/Thunderbolt/Whatever on Gengar, with Hasty/Lonely Nature.
Gardevoir can have Hypnosis/Ice Punch>Will-O-Wisp if you like.
I dunno about Registeel.

-SB ;001;
 
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magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
Yay for helping.
Overheat Hothead said:
Yeah i am having BF problems!! Sop i am redoing my team this is what i haved planned.

The first Trio

Charizard@ Salac Berry (good luck activating it)
Lonely Nature
Evs: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 6 Hp
-Fireblast
-Belly Drum
-Arial Ace
-Earthquake

Gengar @Shell Bell (Item Clause :() If you plan on cursing things over to it, at least give it a White Herb.
Hasty Nature
Evs: 132 Atk / 252 Spd / 124 SAtk
-Sludge Bomb
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch
(i am pretty looking for a Mixed Gengar set)
Really, use Special Gar. Please.

Gengar@ Lum Berry / w/e
EVs: 32 HP / 252 Spd / 224 SAtk
Timid Nature
-Destiny Bond
-Fire Punch
-Ice Punch
-Thunderbolt

Umbreon @Leftovers (i think it needs it the most)
Impish Nature
Evs:???
-Curse (Pass to Gengar)
-Toxic (I cant get Sub)
-Baton Pass
-Wish (to pass to the others)
Ditch. Umbreon is useless in-game. oooh, Wish support- For a 3 Pokemon game! =/
Swap it for something like Snorlax or Sampert. Something that can take a hit.

Trio 2

Heracross @ Choice band
Adamant Nature
Evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
-Megahorn
-Rockslide
-Brick Break
-Facade

Gardevoir @ Lum Berry
Modest Nature
Evs: EVs: 136 HP / 36 Def / 84 Spd / 252 SAtk
-Psychic
-Calm Mind
-Wil-O-Wisp (to burn Heracross:D) Nice Idea, but don't. If you want a big attack boost, use Swords Dancing Hera.
-Thunderbolt

Registeel @Leftovers (Needs it the most)
Bold Nature (Cant be changed :()
Evs: It isn't Ev trained but i can get rid of them with the berries
-Thunderbolt
-Curse
-Metal Claw
-Thunderwave
Ditch

Get Steelix instead;

Steelix@ Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 40 Atk / 216 SDef
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Iron Tail / Rock Slide
- Psych Up
If this is for 2 vs 2 (seeing your Heracross + Gardy Strategy) use Swords Dance Heracross, and Psych Up the Swords Dances with this, and have a Pokemon that can sweep with Massive Defences.
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But;
Registeel@ Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Atk / 156 SDef
Adamant Nature
-Curse
-Ancientpower / EQ
-Metal Claw
-Rest / Boom
Ideally.

And for your Bold one you can try;

Registeel@ Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 152 SAtk / 104 SDef
Bold Nature
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch
-Thunder Wave
-Rest
More of a gimmic set.
 
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Freakshow

Jibaku
WhiteWizard42 said:
burn + guts + facade = weaker than brick break
70*1.5*2*.5 = 105
75*1.5 = 112.5
.
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Wrong! burn + guts + Facade = Stronger than Brick Break.
70(Facade)*2(facade's effect on Burn)*1.5(Guts)=210
 
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aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
guy who suggested double team on umbreon, please gtfo of the internet
 
F

Freakshow

Jibaku
Its in game though. As much as I despise Double Team, there's no one to clause it in game, unlike competetive.
And to Droglas, don't go off to CRMT suggesting Double Team
 
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Crypted Wolf

Well-Known Member
Snorlax with shadowball says Hi to most of this team. Trust me there's some shadowball useing Snorlax in BF.
 
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Overheat Hothead

Custom User Title
blazemxx said:
Will-O-Wisp is not good with Hera since Burn lowers attack and I'm suggesting you're trying to activate Guts.
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Yeah i really didnt take that into account. I feel really stupid!! I am just going to use Endure Reversal Heracross because there is item clause.

Heracross @Salac Berry
Adamant Nature
Evs: I have no idea
-Megahorn
-Endure
-Reversal
-Rockslide

Gengar @Lum Berry
Timid Nature
Evs: 32 HP / 252 Spd / 224 SAtk
-Fire Punch
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch
-Destiny Bond
What about Psychic, W-O-W or Giga Drain over Destiny Bond?

Snorlax @Leftovers
Impish Nature
Evs: Once again, No idea
-Return
-Shadowball
-Rest
-Curse/Sleeptalk (which is better)

Steelix @Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP / 40 Atk / 216 SDef
-Earthquake
-Rockslide
-Rest
-Psych Up

Ok just to be clear replace any Pokemon that you think needs to be replaced. I need the help!
 
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Crypted Wolf

Well-Known Member
Careful on Snorlax plz.
 
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Crypted Wolf

Well-Known Member
Yeah i geuss so...
 
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Tazzler

Well-Known Member
Overheat Hothead said:
Yeah i really didnt take that into account. I feel really stupid!! I am just going to use Endure Reversal Heracross because there is item clause.

Heracross @Salac Berry
Adamant Nature
Evs: 264 Spd/383 Attk/Rest in Hp
-Megahorn
-Endure
-Reversal
-Rockslide

Gengar @Lum Berry
Timid Nature
Evs: 330 Spd/394 Sattk/Rest in Hp
-Fire Punch
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch
-Destiny Bond
What about Psychic, W-O-W or Giga Drain over Destiny Bond?

Snorlax @Leftovers
Careful Nature
Evs: 200 Def( ~186 if curse/496 Hp/316 Sdef/Rest in Attk
-Return
-Shadowball
-Rest
-Curse/Sleeptalk (which is better)

Steelix @Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP /200 Sdef/500 Def/Rest in attk
-Earthquake
-Rockslide/Iron Tail
-Rest
-Psych Up/Toxic/Explosion

Ok just to be clear replace any Pokemon that you think needs to be replaced. I need the help!
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