When I saw the Axew doing some damage to Cynthia's Garchomp and Iris automatically getting a Dragonite, I thought to myself, that's some OP bullshit.What did you think about Axew not evolving and Dragonite being caught in the first place?
If I understand this correctly, your saying Dragonite's entire point is to show that even when there is a shortcut, there's no such thing as an easy shortcut right?It was at least the ENTIRE POINT with Dragonite, that she got it by chance and hadn't tamed it and ultimately any success she made with it wasn't her own until she did put in that effort. I have no problem with protagonists getting strong Pokemon so long they don't exist solely as a short cut or to make them cheaply OP. Dragonite was intentionally designed as a deconstruction of that since Iris was completely out of her comfort zone with it. And amusingly right now with protagonists having mythicals like Melmetal and Shaymin, Dragonite kind of seems small scale anyway.
So while one was a clear case of plot armour, the other one was at least an actual subversion of it.
Curious. If Ash catching a mythical and legendary are much worst, how does that make Dragonite's role less-worst for some people?If Iris catching Dragonite is still controversial then Ash catching a mythical and legendary is much worse than that imo.
Also I have doubts that Axew was ever going to evolve in the first place.
Axew was too marketable so it did not evolve, whereas iris worked hard with dragonite s she totally deserved it lol i could say dawn's togekiss was totally undeserved but ince it was part of DP hypocrites wont dare to speak.What did you think about Axew not evolving and Dragonite being caught in the first place?
If I understand this correctly, your saying Dragonite's entire point is to show that even when there is a shortcut, there's no such thing as an easy shortcut right?
Curious. If Ash catching a mythical and legendary are much worst, how does that make Dragonite's role less-worst for some people?
Axew not evolving...animator's fault because they didn't want to draw it since it would be out all the time basically.What did you think about Axew not evolving and Dragonite being caught in the first place?
Simple, she actually bonded and worked hard with Dragonite while Ash hardly bonded with Poipole and yet it randomly comes back fully evolved with Ash not doing any work with it.Curious. If Ash catching a mythical and legendary are much worst, how does that make Dragonite's role less-worst for some people?
Didn't she evolve Excadrill?Axew not evolving...animator's fault because they didn't want to draw it since it would be out all the time basically.
Dragonite...should've come as a Dragonair at highest so she could actually evolve a dang Pokemon.
Not during the series.Didn't she evolve Excadrill?
Simple, she actually bonded and worked hard with Dragonite while Ash hardly bonded with Poipole and yet it randomly comes back fully evolved with Ash not doing any work with it.
For me personally, I wanted to see Iris actually raise and evolve a dragon-type Pokemon from beginning to end as part of her goal for Dragon Master. It's such a shame that the audience didn't get to see the magic of Pokemon evolution through Iris's goal.Not during the series.
It was at least the ENTIRE POINT with Dragonite, that she got it by chance and hadn't tamed it and ultimately any success she made with it wasn't her own until she did put in that effort. I have no problem with protagonists getting strong Pokemon so long they don't exist solely as a short cut or to make them cheaply OP. Dragonite was intentionally designed as a deconstruction of that since Iris was completely out of her comfort zone with it. And amusingly right now with protagonists having mythicals like Melmetal and Shaymin, Dragonite kind of seems small scale anyway.
So while one was a clear case of plot armour, the other one was at least an actual subversion of it.
I don't like Dragonite's role but I will admit that you guys bring up a really convincing point for the dragon that can't be easily ignored. With that being said, what do you guys think of Axew?Simple, she actually bonded and worked hard with Dragonite while Ash hardly bonded with Poipole and yet it randomly comes back fully evolved with Ash not doing any work with it.
Axew was too marketable so it did not evolve, whereas iris worked hard with dragonite s she totally deserved it lol i could say dawn's togekiss was totally undeserved but ince it was part of DP hypocrites wont dare to speak.