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Absol or Umbreon?

Discussion in '3rd Gen RMT' started by spongeaud, Feb 25, 2007.

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Abol or Umbreon?

  1. Absol

    8 vote(s)
    27.6%
  2. Umbreon

    14 vote(s)
    48.3%
  3. Other dark type

    7 vote(s)
    24.1%
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  1. spongeaud

    spongeaud Shikamaru Fan!

    Sorry if this is the wrong place for this but...For my main team(located in my sig the trainer card) which do u think is a better drak type pokemon absol or umbreon like attack wise which has better attacks and stats and what are a good move set for the one u think I should have?
    Thanks for your help!
     
  2. House of Numbers

    House of Numbers Overheated Blaziken

    It depends what you need it for.... Generally, Umbreon is a better Pokemon.

    Umbreon @ Leftovers
    Bold (+Def, -Atk) or Impish (+Def, -SAtk)
    252 HP / 150 Def / 108 SDef
    - Curse
    - Taunt
    - Baton Pass
    - Moonlight

    After you do 4 Curses, Baton Pass to:

    Jolteon @ Leftovers
    Bold (+Def, -Atk) or Calm (+SDef, -Atk) or Timid (+Spd, -Atk) or Modest (+SAtk, -Atk)
    252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 SAtk
    - Agility
    - Substitute
    - Thunderbolt
    - Baton Pass

    After 2 Agility, Baton Pass to something like this:

    Aerodactyl @ White Herb
    Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk) or Jolly (+Spd, -SAtk)
    252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
    - Taunt
    - Rock Slide
    - Earthquake
    - Double-Edge / Hidden Power [Flying] / Aerial Ace

    You should be able to sweep afterwords. After -4 Spd, +4 Atk and +4 Def from Curse, then +4 Spd from Agility, you'll have the sweep. Probably use Jolly on it, because you always want to get the first strike. If you can, try to Baton Pass a Substitute to Aerodactyl.

    For your team, I'd likely say:

    Replace Absol with Umbreon
    Replace Pikachu with Jolteon
    Replace Pidgeot with Aerodactyl
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2007
  3. flamman

    flamman Member

    Absol anytime.

    self service sweeper:

    adamant@chesty
    substitute
    rest
    swordsdance
    return/shadowball/aerial ace

    in your team: shadow ball, nothing to quick-counter ghosts.
     
  4. noobiess

    noobiess 6 different pokemon Staff Member Moderator

    houndoom to the win !!!
     
  5. SapphireL

    SapphireL Lydia

    Umbreon is better... but both are two totally different Pokemon. I mean, Umbreon is defense, Absol is offense.

    ...ingame though, I would say that Absol is more useful. :/ It can actually hit something a lot harder than Umbreon, and you could always get another defensive Pokemon (like Dusclops).
     
  6. Yuna

    Yuna Sweet beauty

    Umbreon
    95 HP / 65 Atk / 110 Def / 65 Speed / 60 SpA / 130 SpD

    Moveset:
    Umbreon@Leftlovers
    -Mean Look
    -Toxic
    -Moonlight
    -Taunt

    Absol
    65 HP / 130 Atk / 60 Def / 75 Speed / 75 SpA / 60 SpD

    Moveset:
    Absol@Leftlovers
    -Swords Dance
    -Shadow Ball
    -HP fighting/Taunt
    -Baton Pass

    Absol`s movepool is fine and it`s attack is also good but poor defences stop him from being better.

    Both are good but I would go with Umbreon.
     
  7. Mullac51

    Mullac51 Frankly I don't care

    So hard to choose! I love both Absol and Umbreon! (Check their battle below)
    Overall though. I'd have to say that Absol would be better.
    ~M51
     
  8. spongeaud

    spongeaud Shikamaru Fan!

    So attack wise absol seems better
     
  9. MistyLover

    MistyLover Banned

    Umbreon definitely!
     
  10. ~*DarkAbsol*~

    ~*DarkAbsol*~ run, i'll attack~~*

    absol! not just because i love him but u can teach it many good moves like flamethrower and icebeam etc. but im not sure if u can teach umbreon those things :/
     
  11. magnemiteZ

    magnemiteZ Banned

    why does it need ice beam/flamethrower, when it can baton pass?
     
  12. pachirisu_

    pachirisu_ love to hate!

    umbreon! definitely it has higher stats i think
     
  13. Pika Egg

    Pika Egg Veteran newbie ^_^

    ^ lol @ the underlined parts..

    Like SapphireL said, it depends on whether you need someone for defense or offense. Umbreon = defense. Absol = offense. Neither can use Dark moves well, if that's what you're interested in (in which case, go for Houndoom). However, for story-line play, defense (and strategy in general) isn't going to help much, so I'd say go with Absol. I'd go for Return as the 3rd move on Hikari's set.
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2007
  14. Shiny_Milotic

    Shiny_Milotic Well-Known Member

    Absol is better ingame. Umbreon is a great Pokemon, and one of the best Baton Passers/Trappers, but you usually don't need that ingame. Get yourself familiar with the best movesets of each pokemon (www.smogon.com), and then decide. You might also want to consider a different Dark Pokemon. Houndoom and Shiftry are both pretty good ingame, unless you are trying to do Battle Frontier with them. Even then they aren't bad I suppose. Houndoom is better than the other three ingame, imo.
     
  15. sugarj

    sugarj gameshark cheater

    on emerald have i 45 shiny,s and umbreon en absol is ago
     
  16. Hunter_RuLe

    Hunter_RuLe < Guess who's back?

    I voted 'other dark type', I don't really like the only dark pokemon, I rather use Tyranitar or Houndoom.
     
  17. pidgeotto

    pidgeotto The Wish Maker

    I don't know very much about Absol, but I've got an Umbreon I use pretty much. I guess the choice depends very much on your need for a sweeper or a tanker. My Umbreon goes like this:

    Umbreon@leftovers
    bold: 252 HP, 129 def, 129sp.def
    mean look
    baton pass
    toxic
    moonlight

    The mean look-baton pass combo is pretty decent:)
    A toxic before you baton pass works too.
    moonlight is there for longer stalling in case you want to poison your foe to fainting. moonlight may be replaced with wish, in case you'll want to pass on some healing;)
     
  18. BattlePikeKing140

    BattlePikeKing140 Alea iacta est.

    Defenitely Absol. Ingame, Umbreon does NOTHING and really isn't all that effective. Absol is a good Dark-type with some good attack power.
    It's hard to compare the two, they are complete opposites....
     
  19. squirtleboy12

    squirtleboy12 christian 4ever

    tyranitar@leftovers
    adament nature
    -dragon dance
    -earthquake
    -rock slide
    -return
     
  20. Scyther the impireal

    Scyther the impireal Fear is here...

    Normally I would say umbreon because he's my fav. dark-type, but one should never choose a pokemon because of personal preference. So I go with absol all the way.

    ;123;
     
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