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Abstinence in Middle School

Discussion in 'Debate Forum' started by Metal Mania1321, Apr 13, 2011.

  1. Metal Mania1321

    Metal Mania1321 Stick em' up

    Right now, I'm in the eighth grade. They are currently teaching us about abstinence...and abstinence alone. I personally think that it's rediculous, if they teach us properly, I'm sure that we could make an informed decision ourselves about sex. They are not teaching us anything about condoms, STD's, or anything.
    Thanks, bye!
     
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  2. Pesky Persian

    Pesky Persian Caffeine Queen

    Your friends should make their own decisions on sex based on their own feelings (religious or otherwise) on the subject.

    While I don't think kids should be having sex in middle school, I can't stand abstinence-only education. Quite frankly, it doesn't work. Most of the population is going to have sex at some point in their lives and there's nothing wrong with keeping them informed on how to be protected. It's amazing to me how many people still think the pull-out method works and still think that having sex standing up is an effective contraceptive.

    I know most parents don't want their kids having sex at that age, but informing them how to do so safely isn't telling them to go out and have sex. It's educating them on how to be healthy in the future. I think a combination of factual education (condom use, information on STDs/STIs, types of birth control, etc.) along with encouraging kids not to fall into peer pressure and to make their own choice to have sex when they're ready would be more effective than abstinence-only education.
     
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  3. Mankanshoku Mako

    Mankanshoku Mako Well-Known Member

    Ignore everything they say and have as much protected sex as your body can handle. And tell your friends they'll get blue balls if they listen to any of that abstinence stuff.
     
  4. Metal Mania1321

    Metal Mania1321 Stick em' up

    I'm not saying my friends should go out and have sex right now, I'm just saying that they should not be afraid of sex (which they are). If they want to wait to have sex until after maraige thats fine, but it should not be because of some silly abstinence pledge.
    @ Blue Ralts, that is not exactly what I was thinking, oh and one of them is a girl (Who I'm romanticly interested in).
     
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  5. Pesky Persian

    Pesky Persian Caffeine Queen

    What exactly makes you think they're afraid of sex? Did they say that or are you just assuming it? (I'm not being snarky, by the way, I'm genuinely curious.) There's nothing wrong with making an abstinence pledge, although I think at that age it's a little too early to know whether or not you really want to wait that long. And, coming from personal experience, abstinence pledges don't tend to work that well anyway.
     
  6. Hejiru

    Hejiru Rev up those fryers

    Middle school? That's barely puberty...
     
  7. Metal Mania1321

    Metal Mania1321 Stick em' up

    It's pretty obvious, when I told them to make their own decision and not to take what they are saying seriously, They said that their main reason for agreeing with the whole abstinence thing was religion, to which I replied "Thats fine, but I think you may miss out on alot of life's experiences." I suppose it's okay if they make that choice but I want them to be properly informed, which my lady friend isn't.
     
  8. Pesky Persian

    Pesky Persian Caffeine Queen

    There's nothing wrong with staying abstinent for religious reasons. And they're not really missing out on an experience as they're more than likely to experience it later on in life. And as I said before, abstinence pledges don't usually work out well anyway. And it may not be an experience they want to have at this point in life. People grow and change and their thoughts and values can change as well. It's important for them to be properly informed, I agree. It's just difficult to teach someone who doesn't want to be taught.
     
  9. Jb

    Jb Tsun in the streets

    Studies show girls can hit puberty as early as 8 years old.
     
  10. legendarypokemonmaster

    legendarypokemonmaster Well-Known Member

    What's "the scam" that they only teach abstinence?
     
  11. Your school should troll the teachers by saying that if nature didn't want us to reproduce at this age, then why are we able to? And if sex is so dangerous, then why don't we just sterilize ourselves? And especially since the human race is already ruining the world with overpopulation, violence, natural resource abuse, endangerment of species, revival of species that should be dead, introduction of invasive species such as themselves, animal abuse, plant abuse, other-life-form abuse, and pollution of the environment, then why don't we just sterilize everyone, or cut to the chase and exterminate the entire human race?

    Let's see how the school responds to THAT, especially if everyone is saying it.

    That card is dangerous to play in an internet forum, but so fun to play in real life on those that deserve it.

    Seriously, don't actually comment on this.
     
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  12. Metal Mania1321

    Metal Mania1321 Stick em' up

    ^Not much of a scam as much as a misguided lie....
    And I believe I know what to say to my friends, thanks Peskey Persian. Okay, let's move onto opinions on teaching Abstinence in Middle School.
     
  13. legendarypokemonmaster

    legendarypokemonmaster Well-Known Member

    It's the only 100% safe way to prvent STI/Ds and pregnancy. How is what a lie?
     
  14. Green_Man

    Green_Man Banned

    Its unreasonable to think kids are not going to have sex. Most people end up boning sometime in high school unless they are really ugly or nerdy.
     
  15. legendarypokemonmaster

    legendarypokemonmaster Well-Known Member

    Or have self control? Well abstinence is the best policy, but they should probably teach other stuff for people that won't wait, or talk to them specifically if they don't want to wait about other options I guess.
     
  16. GaZsTiC

    GaZsTiC Alternating

    What ages are people in US middle schools? Because I was halfway through puberty when I was 13. My sister had periods from the age of 11.
     
  17. Metal Mania1321

    Metal Mania1321 Stick em' up

    Or actually teach them about safe sex. I'm sure that if you give us proper knowledge, we can make that decision ouselves. Also people who take abstinence pledges are just as likely to have sex as people who don't. Only difference is that kids who do take abstinence pledges are 10% more likely to have unprotected sex.

    ^about 10 to 14. And I hit puberty at a young age, I remember having sac hair at age 7, lol
     
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  18. Green_Man

    Green_Man Banned

    If you are ready to have sex then why not? Its a normal part of life and it positivity contributes to mental health and well being.
     
  19. rykerr1

    rykerr1 The Great Gublet

    People should be taught about all of the nasty STD's out there if they really want people to stay abstinent.

    But people should make decisions about sex based on their own maturity and the strength of their relationship with a person. And they should be taught about safe sex so that they will do it safely when they are ready for it.
     
  20. legendarypokemonmaster

    legendarypokemonmaster Well-Known Member

    That's sad if taking a pledge doesn't mean anything. If you want them teaching "safe sex" wouldn't that mean you were not going to be abstinent, since if you were, you wouldn't need to know it? I guess if someone can't be talked into waiting they could talk about stuff like contraceptives.
    EDIT:
    Not in middle school when kids are only 13.
     
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