1.Charizard
2.Torterra
3.Electivire
4.Drapion
5.Ursaring
6.Garchomp
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7.Metagross (Alain)
8.Magmortar
9.Bisharp
10.Gyarados
11.Honchkrow
12.Unfezant
13.Tyranitar
14.Nidoking
15.Gliscor
16.Hariyama
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17.Metagross (Paul)
18.Aggron
19.Froslass
20.Gastrodon
21.Ninjask
22.Weavile (Alain)
23.Weavile (Paul)
@GLTSRY what would you change about this ranking?
As a preface: I don’t really like such absolute numerical rankings and prefer more flexible tier systems. Also, I‘d like to make a detailed explanation for my choices, but that would take too much time right now and is probably more of a long term project (collaboration incoming?)
Thus, I‘ll just mention some points where I disagree strongly:
Gyarados and Paul’s Metagross should be higher imo. Even though they lost their respective battles, they lost against Lucario and Gengar, who are comfortably in Ash’s top 10.
Alain’s Tyranitar should be lower. Yes, it’s a pseudo and it’s stronger now than back in XY, but it showed a pathetic performance against a (undoubtedly strong) Pikachu. On the flip side, I’d rank Alain’s Metagross higher. It was used to sweep the league and was clowning on Peakachu. If not for Ash’s smart thinking, Pikachu would’ve been defeated.
Likewise, I’d rate Bisharp higher, at least higher than Magmortar, for defeating Goodra and Hawlucha despite the bad match-up.
Of course, there are some other tweaks I’d do here and there, but those were my biggest changes. By the way, I’d argue that Electivire surpassed Torterra as of JN. It was roaming freely in episode 114, something that Torterra used to do in DP if I remember correctly. Paul and Electivire also had similar personalities, so I could see him becoming his new ace.
Anyways, as for my quick tier list (more of a rough sketch really, without detailed explanations)
Tier 0: MC-X
Tier 1: Electivire, Torterra
Tier 1.5: Garchomp, Gyarados, Alain’s Metagross, Chestnaught
Tier 2: Drapion, Ursaring, Paul’s Metagross, Bisharp, Malamar*
Tier 3: Magmortar, Honchkrow, Unfezant, Nidoking, Gliscor, Hariyama
Tier 4: Aggron, Froslass, Gastrodon, Ninjask, Weaviles, Tyranitar
The only area where we disagree, besides Alain’s Tyranitar, seems to be Tier 1.5 and 2. I’ll make a more detailed explanation for those choices later on, but please keep in mind that the tiers are flexible and that I don’t say that Malamar = Drapion, but that both Pokémon should be around the same level of strength/competency and thus more comparable to each other than Electivire and Tyranitar.