The main characters of the show - of the franchise - cannot, by definition, be "Mary Sues." That's not what the phrase means or how it works. They're simply overpowered - which, again, main characters; their faces are on all the merchandise - and you don't like it, which is fine.
It looks like I'm the only one on this thread that liked this episode,I honestly found nothing wrong with it,I was happy that Vegeta eliminated Toppo.
They can. Ask Rey from Star Wars.
So, yeah, it's going to be three or four on one.
I will not, because the notion that she is a "Mary Sue" is laughable, as is the notion that the confluences of the world's greatest minds that is TV Tropes is somehow some top authority on this (or any other) matter, but that's neither here nor there.
The point is that "Mary Sue" was invented as a derogatory phrase specifically to refer to an original, late-inserted character who gets all the candy and scores all the points unrealistically, and was most frequently used to refer to fanfiction writers who inserted themselves or an original character into their derivative works and gave them god powers. That is not Goku, or Vegeta, or Frieza, or Android 17, or any of the Universe 7 fighters remaining.
It is only recently and by a certain minority of people that the phrase has been incorrectly appropriated to mean "any character I don't like who gets victories."
Have your opinions about "well, no, the Universe 7 fighters are definitely overpowered because here's what I think..." if you want. That's your prerogative. I don't much care one way or the other. My point is that they are not by any definition "Mary Sues" because you're not happy with the way they've handled their victories and eliminations or lack thereof on either count.
But my entire point is not that "word", it is actually me wanting to debate with you if you think writers handled it well.
I'd say how would I handle this entire ToP is better than what TOEI has done.
And I am not alone on this one, I bet millions of people who look at things realistically would do the same.
Why are you bolding all of that text? I can read it just fine.
My point is that none of the characters are "Mary Sues," which itself is an outdated and almost meaningless term at this point. Beyond that, you - and everyone else, because I guess you thought I was referring solely to you? - can have the rest of their opinions however they want. Why always the shouting?
That's probably not true, but that is also neither here nor there nor is that exclusive solely to you. All of us - me, you, that guy over there - would probably do terrible work writing scenarios like this. We think we'd do a better job, is would be more accurate.
Okay? Must make it so, then.
That was SO bad. Getting a homage to Majin Vegeta's sacrifice EXCEPT HE LIVES is the most fan-fic garbage. And we went from Toppo dominating 17 and Freeza, and Vegeta being set up for a sacrifice in the last episode to all of them being A-OK in time for the final battle against Jiren next week (preview shows Vegeta using SSB2, so there isn't even a lasting consequence). Speaking of Jiren, dick move insulting your team mate, bro.
2.Dragon Ball Z/Kai
3.Dragon Ball Super
4.Dragon Ball GT
If you're talking about the timeline, then GT is not canon. Akira Toriyama, the creator, has never do anything to Dragon Ball GT, because the anime team created GT.
Dragon Ball Super is created and produced by Akira Toriyama.
Super already killed GT:
-Kibito Kai split back into Shin and Kibito, thanks to Namekian Dragon Balls. (He is still Kibito in GT)
-Pilaf, Mei, and Shu turned into kids. (They are old in GT)
-Goku and Vegeta have Super Saiyan God and Blue (They don't have those transformations in GT)