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Sceptile Leaf Blade

Nighttime Guardian
Who would've found it more interesting if Jiren wasn't the actual final boss? Part of me hoped that it was Universe 4 that would be the final boss.

I would have loved that personally. Make Jiren a lot weaker and goofier and turn U11 into essentially the good guy versions of the Ginyu Force, and give the actual final boss to someone like Kefla or someone else entirely new but with personality. I just don't think Jiren has the emotional range to actually work as a final boss of a major arc, and with Ultra Instinct Goku also having no emotional range to be seen it becomes very stale. Kefla vs Goku was really well-received and cool partially because Kefla could actually carry the emotional requirements that such a role entails and was excited and invested in the fight. Yes, they say that Goku doesn't think about anything else than the fight and blabla, but they don't show it. Show, don't tell. There's no body language there whatsoever to show what these characters are going through.
 
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Pokegirl Fan~

Good riddance serebiiforums
This week's dub episode was hilarious; I was looking forward to seeing the scene with Trunks and 18 in the dub after seeing it in the original.
 

RedJirachi

Veteran member
I really hope something is done with Zen'o. No matter how innocent he is, the fact he's destroyed entire universes shouldn't be swept under the rug
 

Mr. Reloaded

Cause a pirate is free
I really hope something is done with Zen'o. No matter how innocent he is, the fact he's destroyed entire universes shouldn't be swept under the rug

That's literally his job lmao.
 

RedJirachi

Veteran member
That's literally his job lmao.

The Omni-King isn't some multiversal God of Destruction. Zeno's job is to monitor the universes and make sure the gods are doing their job. He's not even doing that, spending his time playing and being bored out of his mind, and leaves the Grand Priest to do his job instead. And now he has the gall to destroy over half his domain because he can't be bothered to put the extra work in and he thinks looking after 12 is hard. Yeah, they have bad mortal level, but that should be remedied by hiring more competent staff so they can be 7 or higher in time
 

BCVM22

Well-Known Member
You've spent the last however many tens of episodes of Super going "Zeno shouldn't be doing this, Zeno should be doing that, I hate Zeno, I hope someone puts him in his place."

We get it. It's a bit much at this point.

My hope is you'll take the likely extended hiatus and move on. You imposing your fanfiction rules on a character doesn't actually make any of it so.
 

Ambyssin

Winter can't come soon enough
Finally saw the episode after losing power/internet to a winter storm. Very flashy. Though there were quite a lot of reused stills and animations. But it looks like the next episode should be the end of it. And, uh, Frieza's still not out. That opening bit with the Zen'o's looking at their God Pads pretty much served no other purpose to me than to scream, "Hey, Frieza's still in this, remember?" The possibility of a massive troll ending with Frieza winning by technicality still exists! At this point, I just want to see it happen to see the internet break.
 

RedJirachi

Veteran member
You've spent the last however many tens of episodes of Super going "Zeno shouldn't be doing this, Zeno should be doing that, I hate Zeno, I hope someone puts him in his place."

We get it. It's a bit much at this point.

My hope is you'll take the likely extended hiatus and move on. You imposing your fanfiction rules on a character doesn't actually make any of it so.

Villains tend to find some karma in this series, so I am wondering where Zeno's is.
 

BCVM22

Well-Known Member
Zeno isn't a villain, though. He/they are children. Children with destructive impulses, certainly, but they aren't inherently malicious. Not unlike Majin Buu when he first emerged from his egg, and they brought that to a friendly conclusion eventually.
 

uber gon

Accept Change
INB4 Super Saiyan Ultra Instinct. Or Ultra Instinct Oozaru.
 

Mr. Reloaded

Cause a pirate is free
"Goku is angel level confirmed" "Goku stomps Beerus now,
no doubt" xD

What a s*** way to end it. Doesn't help that Jiren is such a bad character.

It's best not to read these spoilers before 130, because oh boy...
 
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Red and Blue

Well-Known Member
so the only main antagonist Goku beat in Super was Frieza then? Guess the writers were going for a trend

anyway the outcome of the match isn't all that surprising. What I'm curious about is if 131 will have enough time to wrap things up. From the looks of it the final battle won't be concluded in 130 but instead leak into 131.
 

Darthlord7

The Smug Pikachu
so the only main antagonist Goku beat in Super was Frieza then? Guess the writers were going for a trend

anyway the outcome of the match isn't all that surprising. What I'm curious about is if 131 will have enough time to wrap things up. From the looks of it the final battle won't be concluded in 130 but instead leak into 131.

It seems that they will end the series right there unless the tournament finishes during 131's first half.

[spoil]The meltdown on Reddit is real. It's freaking hilarious lol[/spoil]
 

phanpycross

God-king
GODDAMN the stones on the writers to have frieza as the last one standing. If they end the series with Frieza having a Super Wish......
awesome.
 

RedJirachi

Veteran member
Zeno isn't a villain, though. He/they are children. Children with destructive impulses, certainly, but they aren't inherently malicious. Not unlike Majin Buu when he first emerged from his egg, and they brought that to a friendly conclusion eventually.

Majin Buu still got a change of heart, though. He learned that what he was doing was bad, stopped, and showed heroic acts by protecting Mr Satan and trying to stop Kid Buu. I'm not saying Zen'o should get spanked, but I feel he needs to become a better person when this arc is over. Like perhaps he decides that the universes are worth keeping around, so he decided the Super Dragonballs should be better used with bringing back the people he killed.

If Dragonball continues in future(it probably will), I think a good arc would be Beerus and Shin learning to be better gods. Maybe one of the exempt gods can school them
 
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