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Ambyssin

Winter can't come soon enough

Mr. Reloaded

All encompassing

Sceptile Leaf Blade

Nighttime Guardian
As an aside, are the subtitles on Daisuki messed up for others as well? Several episodes just have parts of them missing, only displaying the first portion of a sentence, the font is really tiny and the outline is quite hard to see so the subtitles are very hard to read on bright backgrounds. I legitimately wonder who's in charge of that website and why they keep on making it worse. By the end of October they made it harder for browsers to recognise the Flash requirement, so you had to figure out on your own that the website needed Flash and enable it manually as the website simply wouldn't ask for permission but instead assume no, then a few weeks ago they changed the video player to suddenly need third party cookies, and now they screwed up the subtitles.
 
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Red and Blue

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Toriyama hinted that there would be a surprise at the end as well as set up for future story arcs. Given how the tournament ends based on the spoilers I have a good idea what some of those stories could be.
 

Kataphrut

Well-Known Member
https://mobile.twitter.com/herms98/status/972038504992587776?s=21

Basically take most of your frustration off Toei and redirect if to the Tori man himself.

It's a mixed bag. Toei had the right idea with Toppo and Ribrianne while everything wrong with Jiren can be traced back to Toriyama. At the same time, while he didn't come up with them, Toriyama made the Saiyan girls infinitely better by adding Caulifla. And while the design was lazy, the concept for Ultra Instinct is the best thing about the arc, and that was all him.

If anything, this goes to show that people shouldn't be trying to blame Toriyama, or Toei (or Toyo for that matter) for the problems with Super. It's a collaborative effort, which is both a good and bad thing.
 

RedJirachi

Veteran member
Toriyama hinted that there would be a surprise at the end as well as set up for future story arcs. Given how the tournament ends based on the spoilers I have a good idea what some of those stories could be.

I want an arc where Beerus and Shin go to proverbial boot camp. They decide for the gods from the exempt universes to educate those who are lacking. We could explore Universe 8 and the fox god
 

Red and Blue

Well-Known Member
What I think would be a great framing device for this film is if Vegeta is telling the story to a bunch of young U6 Saiyans on planet Sadala.
 

RedJirachi

Veteran member
What I think would be a great framing device for this film is if Vegeta is telling the story to a bunch of young U6 Saiyans on planet Sadala.

Toriyama drew an old man Goku. I would love to see him draw an old man Vegeta
 

Kutie Pie

"It is my destiny."

Red and Blue

Well-Known Member
So this should clear any doubt about what happens in the finale.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/84lf70/episode_131_weekly_shōnen_jump/
This one explicitly states that Goku fell from the ring and couldn't beat Jiren.
Goku is out for good and "didn't just fall on a rock"

Shame that the forum is undergoing changes on the day the episode comes out. I was looking forward to that discussion.
 

Darthlord7

Explorer
So this should clear any doubt about what happens in the finale.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/84lf70/episode_131_weekly_shōnen_jump/
This one explicitly states that Goku fell from the ring and couldn't beat Jiren.
Goku is out for good and "didn't just fall on a rock"

Shame that the forum is undergoing changes on the day the episode comes out. I was looking forward to that discussion.

Well I think it was pretty obvious already but I guess some people didn't want to accept the truth lol
 

Red and Blue

Well-Known Member
Well I think it was pretty obvious already but I guess some people didn't want to accept the truth lol

Eh, people on Reddit always seemed to hope that things would play out differently than what the summaries stated. I remember people refusing to believe that Hit would be beaten by Jiren. Or that U6 would have been saved via the U6 Namekians fusing with Piccolo.
 

Sonic Boom

@JohanSSB4 Twitter
https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/974562112210026496

Meanwhile this one has Goku and Freeza fighting together in the last episode.

Ultra Instinct might have burned out and Goku fell, but he could still just Instant Transmission straight back up, now that Freeza's back up and giving a ki signature of Goku to lock onto.

Then Freeza and Goku can stall out for the next 10 seconds or so and win by numbers.
 

RedJirachi

Veteran member
With Super coming to an end, I feel it's appropriate to ask on what people think is the better successor to the original manga/two anime-Dragonball GT or Dragonball Super?
 
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