All Dragon Ball Discussion Thread (Discuss Z/GT/Kai etc. Here!)

[MasterTobias]

Yeah well I don't really read the manga,I only own one book that covered Frieza vs the Z Fighters but outside of that I just watch the anime.

I think it's good that it was shown how they got the transformation on screen as opposed to getting them off screen like in Super.Seeing them train and struggle to achieve these forms made them felt earned.

Goten,Trunks,Caulifla and Kale all got their forms pretty easily with Cabba having just a slight more trouble.

I just wanted to point out how the reason those character you mentioned got it so easily is because all others outside of Goku got it without fanfare as well.

The fandom certainly puts ssj as a higher standard than what the story and by extension Toriyama does, its just a simple power up to him, which is why everyone and their mother got it after Namek.

 

[MasterTobias]

Well aren't we informed

Being informed helps, it certainly helps in knowing what to expect from the franchise as to not be dissapointed(or be dissapointed less).

 

[MasterTobias]

So do you care to explain why Piccolo doesn't get the same treatment as Goku/Vegeta/Gohan despite being one of the best characters in the entire series and arguably the smartest fighter?

Because Toriyama stopped caring for him as you can clearly see during the whole Buu arc, when he did not even fight and got replaced as a fighter by Gotenks of all people. This also continues all the way into DBS till the Super Hero movie.

You can see this even during the Cell games, in the manga Vegeta was the only one who attacked Cell during the beam struggle, Piccolo just stood there despite a few minutes earlier being willing to die fighting Cell to help Gohan, he was written out of character because thats what happens when Toriyama stops caring about characters, they lose their relevance and personality.

 

[Morax]

Vegeta when he comes home after the events of super hero and finds bulma flexing her butt in the kitchen :

 

[Yce288]

Just like he stopped caring about Launch who I don't recall once making an appearance during the Buu saga and the entirety of Super,apparently Yurin replaces her and lowkey becomes Tien's new lady friend.

Did Yurin appear in the manga too?

 

[Yce288]

I don't read the manga so I wouldn't know.But they pretty much retconned her into being one of members of Master Shen's Crane School which only featured Tao,Tien and Chiaotzu.

I checked and she didnt appear in the manga, but even if the anime stays loyal to the manga whenever it returns they may add her like in the Boruto anime when they added anime only characters in scenes from the manga.
i guess whenever i have enough free time i need to start reading the manga version of TOP since its different from the anime version.
all i know only about the manga version is that Ultimate/Mystic Gohan beat Kefla and that Frost easily beat Tien, Krillin and Master Roshi.

 

[Blaze Master X]

Manga spoiler about Frieza:

Spoiler

Frieza just returned in latest chapter and has a new form that is called "Black Frieza"
Black Frieza is way stronger than Ultra Instinct Goku and Ultra Ego Vegeta.

 

[Yce288]

You got Goku,Vegeta,Gohan,Frieza and Piccolo getting all these new transformations while Jiren doesn't even need one.He's already super OP in his base form,no god ki or hakai energy at all.

I still dont like the fact that Jiren was replaced by Toppo in the extra match after the Exhibition Match of All, it could have created a much earlier rivalry between Goku and Jiren and would have given Jiren more character.

 

[Sonic Boom]

I do legit wish it was Yamcha instead of 17 that fought in the Tournament of Power.

He’s one of two fighters in the Dragon Team that hasn’t seen Freeza or vice versa, so that had potential for some non-hostile interactions, and his happy-go-lucky nature would have played into that better near the end instead of 17’s cool and stoic personality.

And yes, “near the end.” Yamcha should have won the ToP as the ultimate reversal. How cool would it have been to have the guy who’s constantly shoved aside in the fighting segments at the first moment, be the last man standing.

 

[Yce288]

I do legit wish it was Yamcha instead of 17 that fought in the Tournament of Power.

He’s one of two fighters in the Dragon Team that hasn’t seen Freeza or vice versa, so that had potential for some non-hostile interactions, and his happy-go-lucky nature would have played into that better near the end instead of 17’s cool and stoic personality.

And yes, “near the end.” Yamcha should have won the ToP as the ultimate reversal. How cool would it have been to have the guy who’s constantly shoved aside in the fighting segments at the first moment, be the last man standing.

Yamcha did meet Freeza in the Super Space-Time Tournament in SDBH, but Freeza is evil and somehow Yamcha got himself a glass female fighter falling for him and of course all of this is non canon.

 

[Yce288]

Last time Yamcha actually did something was when he was out in Otherworld w/ Krillin fighting other warriors during the tail end of the Buu Saga but that was filler.

Apparently everytime Yamcha does something, its non canon.

 

[Red and Blue]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1593082967060254725

Gotten and Trunks are going to star in the next arc of the manga. Best part is that it's a prequel to Superhero so they are going to still use their older designs from the film

 

[Morax]

Man i miss playboy goten from GT

 

[mehmeh1]

I was hoping we'd skip to end of Z but at least this is some sort of timeskip

 

[PokemonBattleFanatic-]

There's apparently going to be a new Budokai Tenkaichi game for the first time since 2007.

 

[Morax]

There's apparently going to be a new Budokai Tenkaichi game for the first time since 2007.

Am I the only one who feels like dragon ball games are getting repetitive? I mean they offer nothing new, the story is the same old....

 

[Trey pokes]

Haven't played Tenkaiichi in forever, glad they're bringing it back!

 

[PokemonBattleFanatic-]

Am I the only one who feels like dragon ball games are getting repetitive? I mean they offer nothing new, the story is the same old....

They have yet to dive deep into the story of the original Dragon Ball when Goku was a kid for the big consoles. But yeah you got a point,still this is a big deal for Dragon Ball fans worldwide that waited almost 2 decades for another Budokai Tenkaichi game.

 

[Morax]

They have yet to dive deep into the story of the original Dragon Ball when Goku was a kid for the big consoles. But yeah you got a point,still this is a big deal for Dragon Ball fans worldwide that waited almost 2 decades for another Budokai Tenkaichi game.

But will it be any different to FighterZ or Xenoverse or Kakarot? It's the same chocolate with a different branding..........

 

[PokemonBattleFanatic-]

But will it be any different to FighterZ or Xenoverse or Kakarot? It's the same chocolate with a different branding..........

Probably not but I do expect there to be a sh*t ton of playable characters on the roster possibly more than what was in Tenkaichi 3 and Xenoverse 2 depending if there's DLC.
I hope they follow the original formula of the last 3 games and don't use the rock paper scissors formula from that crappy ultimate tenkaichi game.