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All Dragon Ball Discussion Thread (Discuss Z/GT/Kai etc. Here!)

Discussion in 'Alternate Animé & Manga Discussion' started by shadowF, Dec 20, 2014.

  1. AztecWarrior

    AztecWarrior Water Type Master

    Hey whats up everyone, long-time DB fan here i'm actually waiting on an episode to come one tv in an hour lol DBZ Kai is on Adult swim now

    Does anyone have a site where I can watch it in english? I already know the Buu saga isn't out yet though
     
  2. Shadow XD001

    Shadow XD001 Well-Known Member

    Kissanime. They also have the DBZ movies, original DBZ, DB, and GT. They have the Japanese version of the Kai Buu saga, but will probably add the English Dub when that is available.
     
  3. Haunter ゴースト

    Haunter ゴースト Well-Known Member

    I have a serious question, i've never watched Dragonball Z fully before and i'm intending to do so however the large amount of episodes to watch does put me off. Obviously Dragonball Z Kai is much shorter, would it be worth watching this one instead or is the original Dragonball Z too good and infinetly better than Kai?
     
  4. Kutie Pie

    Kutie Pie "It is my destiny."

    I personally found DBZ hard to watch at times not because it's 291 episodes, but because the pacing of the episodes sometimes go at a snail's pace (then again, I'm not one for martial arts/action shows anyway, so this is probably the bias talking), but that usually refers to an arc as a whole. There's a reason the Namek arc is a bit notorious with fans because of how it seemed to go on forever--the filler didn't help. I personally found it got painfully worse when it entered its seventh season, probably because by then they were catching up to the manga, so they had to really take their time. But that's just me; also didn't help that there's a bit of a gap between when I finished season six to starting season seven because I was collecting the DVDs.

    Dragon Ball Kai is basically the exact same as DBZ, it just follows the manga more by getting rid of the filler (even though some of the filler's pretty funny, like the one where Goku and Piccolo learn to drive), the artwork's cleaned up a bit, and the voice actors redid their lines (so I heard, don't cite me for that). But it's immensely shorter because it cuts off 193 episodes (there's apparently 98 episodes of Kai, and that's not counting the current one tackling Buu's arc), so it's probably easier to go after that one instead. DBZ's more-or-less for nostalgic reasons these days.

    It also goes to show that only the hardcore fans really care about Dragon Ball which is why Toei hasn't decided to abridged that series, but that's 153 episodes and seems to follow the manga a bit better, so there probably wasn't any need to "fix" it. Also, 80s animation is charming.
     
  5. Master Leo

    Master Leo The Dark Side

    Oh sweet! Didn't think I'd see another DBZ thread here. I've been a DB/Z fan for as long as can remember. Never gets boring rewatching the series.

    As for me, I'm really hoping Revival of F is gonna be a good film. I wasn't as impressed with Battle of Gods overall so I'm anxious to see how the new movie fairs


    Kutie Pie pretty much summed it up in her reply.

    IMO, DBZ is much better than Kai. I guess I am pretty biased in this regard to since I love the OST and original voice actors that DBZ has. As stated before, there is a lot of filler that DBZ has that Kai cut out though some of it gives a bit more umph to the overall storyline like Gohan's training with Piccolo during the Saiyan Saga, among other things. Not to mention, Bruce Faulconer is a music genius when it comes to the series.

    Kai, like said before, is basically DBZ but shortened. There are points in the anime where the art is remastered and its true about some lines and voice actors being changed. If you do decide to watch Kai, watch the Uncut Version. The clean version of Kai is stripped almost to the bone.
     
  6. BCVM22

    BCVM22 Well-Known Member

    You will lose nothing save a whole lot of dragging from episode to episode (and, if you're watching the dub, some mediocre-to-okay synthesizer music) for watching Kai versus the original. Kai is lean and mean and if you're just now jumping in for the first time with the objective of absorbing the full saga, Kai is absolutely the way to go.
     
  7. iPokemon

    iPokemon Moonlight

    I love the Dragon Ball franchise. I remember watching it as a kid; it was basically one of my childhood shows! Once I have the time, I'm definitely going to re-watch the whole thing starting from Dragon Ball with kid Goku, Bulma, and Oolong. Those were the days!
     
  8. Haunter ゴースト

    Haunter ゴースト Well-Known Member

    Cheers everyone.

    I'm still unsure, but i imagine i'll go with Kai. I used to watch the show when i was younger but random episodes at a time so i've never fully understood the plot and only really know the basics such as vegeta, frieza, cell - timeskip - buu etc.

    Does anyone find that Kai has the same kind of intensity/emotional impact or does the change in ost/voice actor/lack of development (from training episodes being removed) take away that feeling.
     
  9. BCVM22

    BCVM22 Well-Known Member

    Again, if you've never really invested time and/or emotion in the original and thus don't have the entirety of the original as a benchmark, you don't have any feelings to have taken away in the first place.

    As for the voice actors, Bulma and Kid Gohan are the only principal cast members to have different actors than the original dub, and I don't know how many people you'll find who will tell you anything Bulma says in the original dub has "emotional impact" or "intensity" for them.
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2015
  10. DemonCode

    DemonCode Banned

    I miss watching DBZ as a kid. :/
    I wish they would bring it back,because most shows nowadays are just...*shudders*. (Stevens universe,Uncle grandpa,etc etc.)
     
  11. shadowF

    shadowF Well-Known Member

    So there has been a summary of how freiza has been revived for the new movie, Spoilers ahead:
    [spoil]The manga starts off with a small flashback of Goku turning into a Super Saiyan in front of Freeza which then transitions to Freeza being defeated by Future Trunks. He quickly wakes up from those flashback dreams and appears to be wrapped in a cocoon.

    As this happens, Sorbet, who seems to be in charge of Freeza’s forces is upset that his men have been defeated on Namek. Sorbet sends one of his best men, named “Tagoma” to Earth so Freeza can be revived.

    It turns out Shenlon is summoned by Pilaf! As this happens Sorbet jumps in and says “I want you to revive Freeza!!”. Shenron then announces that it is possible to revive Freeza but his body has been scattered so his souls cannot return.

    Sorbet says that he wants the body to return and so Shenlon grants his wish. This is where Freeza's body disappears from his cocoon in hell and appears in pieces around Sorbet. Meanwhile Piccolo and Teen Gohan can feel his Ki.

    Sorbet and Tagoma gather the pieces of Freeza and Sorbet announces that he plans to revive the Freeza army. He then begins to revive Freeza in a revival chamber. As this happens, Freeza begins to remember his battle against Goku on Namek.

    Freeza is now revived and arrives in his original form as he begins to kill off some of his underlings and said that “my powers have weakened after being revived. Now it’s time for some revenge”.

    Tagoma explains to Freeza that he should just ignore Goku and the others. Hearing this angers Freeza as he blasts Tagoma and sending him out into space. Freeza learns that Goku has become stronger since his death and said to himself that he will also get stronger.

    Freeza also learned that Goku defeated Majin Buu and later data was not collected on Goku and the others. He then becomes upset to know that he told Baba that Majin Buu and Beerus should not get in his way.

    Freeza then said that he still has power yet to be shown and that it would only take just 4 months to train to defeat Goku in the blink of an eye.

    He says he will do this in four months.
    http://i1.wp.com/otakomu.jp/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/IMG_2109.jpg?resize=600,800
    http://i2.wp.com/otakomu.jp/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/IMG_2113.jpg?resize=600,800
    http://i2.wp.com/otakomu.jp/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/IMG_2111.jpg?resize=600,800

    [/spoil]
    Got the information from another forum and basically copied and pasted from there so credit goes to them. This is from the first chapter of a manga adaptation of the movie. So what do you guys think?
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2015
  12. Kutie Pie

    Kutie Pie "It is my destiny."

    Yeah, figured Frieza would come back through a wish on the Dragon Balls, because a clone of him would've seem a bit too far-fetched (though not implausible in this universe). Kind of a bit disappointed his return doesn't come off as grand or whatnot, but I guess we'll see how they play it out in the movie. And it sounds like he comes back pretty early on, so at least he'll be in the movie throughout, or at least his presence is felt.

    More Pilaf is always a plus.
     
  13. Sonic Boom

    Sonic Boom @JohanSSB4 Twitter

  14. Kutie Pie

    Kutie Pie "It is my destiny."

    Wow, Toriyama XD, that was what Frieza was condemned to? That... that honestly is very strange. It doesn't look like it fits at all with the Dragon Ball universe |D. But then again, I guess he was sent there on purpose strictly because he's the most evil guy in the universe, and thus his punishment would be nothing but cute, happy things.

    I'm at a loss for words, really. I'm so looking forward to seeing that in the movie (it better be in the movie).
     
  15. ven?

    ven? Kanto Region Champ

    I don't think it's strange for a evil villain's personal hell to be a world made up of happy people.

    GT is the best imo, idc if it was a fanbased series, still a good storyline.
     
  16. Jb

    Jb Tsun in the streets

    Bro not even, so many plot-hole and inconsistencies. Even by DB standards
     
  17. Teebu

    Teebu Well-Known Member

    Only if it means we get more Mai and Shu, i've loved those characters ever since i saw them in Dragonball originally. They used them great in DB:BOTG.
     
  18. Sonic Boom

    Sonic Boom @JohanSSB4 Twitter

    Full detailed analysis by Kanzenshuu:


    http://www.kanzenshuu.com/manga/spin-offs/movie/freeza-01/

    EDIT: There is now a "Bulma's Blog" that will update/count down to the day the movie airs, in 59 days.

    http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/int...-dragon-ball-z-movie-with-her-new-blog/.85237
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2015
  19. shadowF

    shadowF Well-Known Member

    Anyone think we will see gotten and trunks in this film? I mean this new picture showed up(http://i.imgur.com/r8oxftH.png) but no sign of gotten and trunks yet, which get me a bit worried....
     
  20. Sonic Boom

    Sonic Boom @JohanSSB4 Twitter

    Trailer's out.

    Behold Freeza's true final form: ELECTRUM COOLER.

    Also, Jaco the Patrolman is in this film. Neat continuity.
     

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