Red and Blue
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So basically
Kafla is Universe 6's last stand. The two U6 Nameks will go down against Gohan and Piccolo leaving Kafla as one big target for Goku to ringout
I hate them for erasing entire universes under flimsy pretenses, including my man Gowasu. He's been through enough! I want the wish to be dealing with them. The winner realizes they have no way of making sure the revived universes stay revived as long as Zen'o is there, so they make the wish "I wish the Zen'o were sent where they cannot harm anyone!" and the two Zen'o are sent to the void that used to be Future Trunks' timeline. Karma for the little brats since that void is one of their faults
The gods being chaotic and in no way benevolent is the entire premise of Super. The entire point of showing the Zen'Os as cosmically inept is so that no one truly feels a wrong move was made when Goku and co. ultimately gain enough power to force some changes in the handlings of the universe.
If the Zen'Os were shown to be the least bit mature and genuine in their kingly duties, and the Grand Priest was shown to be the least bit emphatic toward the sustainment of the universes' life, there would be some hesitance from the audience. But since there isn't, it's a free-for-all.
Exactly, i despise storylines where the all mighty, capable of anything guy is not intelligent. How in the world does the king of everything create and maintain something so complex like living beings without them being some failed abominations like in fullmetal alquimist? And i'm not even talking about the greater things like planetary ecosystems and the translation movement of planets creating solar systems and galaxies and so forth. It requires knowledge and intelligence to do such a thing. And there's where the grand priest comes i guess. But if so, what do the zeno's do? Whatever they want until nothing but them remain. They would erase the grand priest if he wasn't so good at dealing with them, knowing exactly how they behave. I would like to see freeza succeeding in getting his wish if it meant the zenos would be no more.
One of the most infuriating things i saw about zeno was when he was playing that game with the planets and those planets got destroyed just because zeno's bored. I bet some of those were inhabited too.
New info regarding episode 115.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/7863wf/super_spoiler_megathread_episodes_113115/
The "Goku vs Kafla" title for episode 115 might foreshadow a possible fusion of those two or they just don't want a long title there. Anyway, we will see if Kale and Caulifla have ever met Metamorans before so they can do the fusion dance.
I agree with this and that's my biggest problem with the show. Seeing those little two mindless and childish pieces of sh*t governing the whole multiverse and deciding the fate of trillions of people is just infuriating. Grand Priest both design and personality wise feels more like the "god of everything" than those two annoying melon heads. I wonder what kind of dream Toriyama saw before he creates this abomination of a ruler as the absolute being in the franchise.
I didn't want to see Kale and Caulifla fusing.I wanted to see Zenos being so amazed by all those battles so they add one more guy on Jiren's team( assuming Toppo and Dypso drop out and Jiren is all alone)
That guy to be around Jiren's level, so we can see Vegeta getting something. And we would get: new guy vs Vegeta, Goku sv Jiren in the end.
There is still that mortal who is stronger than GoDs from U4 since it has been confirmed that Quitela was the one who beat Beerus in an arm wrestling match.
Isn't Jiren that guy? Didn't Whis specify Jiren was that guy and they showed us close-up of Belmod's mouth smiling,implying Jiren is stronger than GoDs?
I see. If there's one guy who is probably on same level as Jiren from U4, hopefully one of those two bugs that Quitela's hiding, is not him. I wonder if it's Quitela's guy; how would they introduce him? Onyl logical explanation I have for new guy to come in is that Zenos are too amazed by Jiren's fight so they add one guy on his team because he amazed them( doubt it would be Goku's team because Goku has 7 members left).Well he was stating that he seemed quite surprised so this probably implies that he didn't know that U11 had a warrior of this caliber. Also, Quitela is the only god thus far who was literally chilling out without any concerns during the time that Jiren showcased his power.