Alola Pokedex Discussion Thread

[Everlasting]

Eevee family #123-#132

From the new trailer.

I think it's #123 to #131.

But even then, does this suggest ~150 Pokémon per island ? Or simply on one of the islands only ? We know the islands are not the same size, so it's possible the biggest islands have ~150 Pokémon on them while the smallest could run as low as ~50 Pokémon.

 

[Erron Black]

Eevee family #123-#132

From the new trailer.

Unfortunately it's #123-#131...

 

[Wulava]

Unfortunately it's #123-#131...

Yep. A shame that there's no new Eeveelution.

 

[Genos]

I'm not surprised for a non-new Eeveelution. This is an odd generation so the chances were unlikely.

 

[Trainer Yusuf]

I think it's #123 to #131.

But even then, does this suggest ~150 Pokémon per island ? Or simply on one of the islands only ? We know the islands are not the same size, so it's possible the biggest islands have ~150 Pokémon on them while the smallest could run as low as ~50 Pokémon.

Most likely the former, which should confirm that there is at least a hundred new Pokémon.

Smallest island isn't really its separate dex, its connected to the temple island meaning all of them should be around the same size.

 

[Aromatic Mist]

I know that I have Pokédex listings on the last page, and this one already, but we got quite a few new potential Pokémon in this trailer, so:

Spoiler: Confirmed & Highly Likely Pokemon

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Rowlet (Grass/Flying)
Rowlet Evo (Grass/???)
Rowlet Evo Evo (Grass/???)
Litten (Fire)
Litten Evo (Fire/???)
Litten Evo Evo (Fire/???)
Popplio (Water)
Popplio Evo (Water/???)
Popplio Evo Evo (Water/???)
Pikipek (Normal/Flying)
Pikipek Evo (???/Flying)
Pikipek Evo Evo (????/Flying)
Yungoos (Normal)
Yungoos Evo (Confirmed at WHF) (Normal/???)
Grubbin (Bug)
Charjabug (Bug/Electric)
Vikavolt (Bug/Electric)
Cutiefly (Bug/Fairy)
Bruxish (Water/Psychic)
Togedamaru (Electric/Steel)
Drampa (Normal/Dragon)
Rockruff (Rock)
Rockruff Evo (???)
Komala (Normal)
Salandit (Poison/Fire)
Kiteruguma (Normal/Fighting)
Mimicyu (Ghost/Fairy)
Tapu Koko (Legend?) (Electric/Fairy)
Solgaleo (Mascot Legend) (Psychic/Steel)
Lunala (Mascot Legend) (Psychic/Steel)
Magearna (Mythical) (Steel/Fairy)

Kanto

Pikachu (QR Confirmed) (Electric) (In Kalos Dex)
Raichu (Evolves from Pikachu) (Electric) (In Kalos Dex)
Caterpie (E3 Stream) (Bug) (In Kalos Dex)
Metapod (Evolves from Caterpie) (Bug) (In Kalos Dex)
Butterfree (Evolves from Metapod (Bug/Flying) (In Kalos Dex)
Spearow (Cinematic) (Normal/Flying)) (In Kalos Dex, Bred)
Fearow (Trailer Battle/Evolves from Spearow) (Normal/Flying) (In Kalos Dex, Rare)
Zubat (Trailer Battle/Japanese Website) (Poison/Flying) (In Kalos Dex)
Golbat (Evolves from Zubat) (Poison/Flying) (In Kalos Dex)
Psyduck (Japanese Website) (Water) (In Kalos Dex)
Golduck (Evolves from Psyduck) (Water) (In Kalos Dex)
Meowth (Overworld) (Normal) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Persian (Evolves from Meowth) (Normalrath) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Machop (Evolves into Machoke) (Fighting) (In Kalos Dex)
Machoke (Evolves into Machamp) (Fighting) (In Kalos Dex)
Machamp (Concept) (Fighting) (In Kalos Dex)
Slowpoke (Overworld) (Water/Psychic) (In Kalos Dex)
Slowbro (Trailer Battle/Evolves from Slowpoke) (Water/Psychic) (In Kalos Dex)
Poliwag (Trailer Battle) (Water) (In Kalos Dex)
Poliwhirl (Evolves from Poliwag) (Water) (In Kalos Dex)
Poliwrath (Evolves from Poliwhirl) (Water/Fighting) (In Kalos Dex)
Growlithe (Evolves into Arcanine) (Fire) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Arcanine (Trailer Battle) (Fire) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Gastly (Evolves into Haunter) (Ghost/Poison) (In Kalos Dex, Rare/Bred)
Haunter (Evolves into Gengar) (Ghost/Poison) (In Kalos Dex, Rare)
Gengar (Trailer Battle) (Ghost/Poison) (In Kalos Dex, Rare)
Tauros (Rideable Pokémon) (Normal) (In Kalos Dex)
Eevee (Trailer Battle/Pokédex Screen) (Normal) (In Kalos Dex)
Vaporeon (Eeveelution) (Water) (In Kalos Dex)
Jolteon (Eeveelution) (Electric) (In Kalos Dex)
Flareon (Eeveelution) (Fire) (In Kalos Dex)
Electabuzz (Trailer Battle) (Electric) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Kangaskhan (Trailer Battle) (Normal) (In Kalos Dex)
Lapras (Rideable Pokémon) (Water/Ice) (In Kalos Dex, Easily Accessed)
Dratini (Evolves into Dragonair) (Dragon) (In Kalos Dex, Rare)
Dragonair (Evolves into Dragonite) (Dragon) In Kalos Dex, Rare)
Dragonite (Trailer Battle) (Dragon/Flying) (In Kalos Dex, Rare)

Johto

Ledyba (E3 Stream) (Bug/Flying) (In Kalos Dex)
Ledian (Evolves from Ledyba) (Bug/Flying) (In Kalos Dex)
Pichu (Evolves into Pikachu) (Electric) (In Kalos Dex, Bred)
Elekid (Evolves into Electabuzz) (Electric) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Crobat (Evolves from Golbat) (Poison/Flying) (In Kalos Dex)
Slowking (Evolves from Slowpoke) (Water/Psychic) (In Kalos Dex)
Espeon (Eeveelution) (Psychic) (In Kalos Dex)
Umbreon (Eeveelution) (Dark) (In Kalos Dex)
Politoed (Evolves from Poliwhirl) (In Kalos Dex)
Corsola (Overworld) (Water/Rock) (In Kalos Dex) (Noted By: Everlasting)
Wobuffet (Concept) (Psychic) (In Kalos Dex, Rare/Catch)
Skarmory (Trailer Battle) (Steel/Flying) (In Kalos Dex, Rare)
Miltank (Trailer Battle) (Normal) (In Kalos Dex)

Hoenn

Wingull (Concept) (Water/Flying) (In Kalos Dex) (Noted By: Endless)
Pelipper (Evolves from Wingull) (Water/Flying) (In Kalos Dex)
Trapinch (Evolves into Vibrava) (Ground) (In Kalos Dex)
Vibrava (Evolves into Flygon) (Ground/Dragon) (In Kalos Dex)
Flygon (Trailer Battle) (Ground/Dragon) (In Kalos Dex)
Caravanha (Evolves into Sharpedo) (Water/Dark) (In Kalos Dex)
Sharpedo (Rideable Pokémon) (Water/Dark) (In Kalos Dex)
Luvdisc (Overworld) (Water) (In Kalos Dex)
Wynaut (Evolves into Wobuffet) (Psychic) (In Kalos Dex, Rare/Bred)
Feebas (Evolves into Milotic) (Water) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Milotic (Trailer Battle) (Water) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Bagon (Evolves into Shelgon) (Dragon) (In Kalos Dex, Rare)
Shelgon (Evolves into Salamence) (Dragon) (In Kalos Dex, Rare)
Salamence (Trailer Battle) (Dragon/Flying) (In Kalos Dex, Rare)
Beldum (Evolves into Metang) (Steel/Psychic) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Metang (Evolves into Metagross (Steel/Psychic) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Metagross (Trailer Battle) (Steel/Psychic) (Not in Kalos Dex)

Sinnoh

Gible (Evolves into Gabite) (Dragon/Ground) (In Kalos Dex)
Gabite (Evolves into Garchomp) (Dragon/Ground) (In Kalos Dex)
Garchomp (Trailer Battle) (Dragon/Ground) (In Kalos Dex)
Riolu (Japanese Website) (Fighting) (In Kalos Dex)
Lucario (Evolves from Riolu) (Fighting/Steel) (In Kalos Dex, Near Mandatory)
Leafeon (Eeveelution) (Grass) (In Kalos Dex)
Glaceon (Eeveelution) (Ice) (In Kalos Dex)
Electivire (Evolves from Electabuzz) (Electric) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Rotom (Rotom Pokedex) (Electric/Ghost) (In Kalos Dex, Rare)

Unova

Lillipup (Evolves into Herdier/Trailer Battle) (Normal) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Herdier (Evolves into Stoutland) (Normal) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Stoutland (Ridable Pokémon) (Normal) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Sandile (Evolves into Krokorok) (Ground/Dark) (In Kalos Dex)
Krokorok (Evolves into Krookodile) (Ground/Dark) (In Kalos Dex)
Krookodile (Trailer Battle) (Ground/Dark) (In Kalos Dex)
Emolga (Trailer Battle) (Electric/Flying) (In Kalos Dex)

Kalos

Fletchling (Trailer Battle) (Normal/Flying)
Fletchinder (Evolves from Fletchling) (Fire/Flying)
Talonflame (Evolves from Fletchinder) (Fire/Flying)
Furfrou (Concept) (Normal)
Pancham (Trailer Battle/Evolves into Pangoro) (Fighting)
Pangoro (Trailer Battle) (Fighting/Dark)
Sylveon (Eeveelution) (Fairy)
Klefki (Japanese Website) (Steel/Fairy)
Zygarde (New Formes) (Legendary) (Dragon/Ground)

Spoiler: Possible Pokemon (via Official Media)

Kanto

Charmander (Evolves into Charmeleon) (Fire) (In Kalos Dex, Choice)
Charmeleon (Evolves into Charizard) (Fire) (In Kalos Dex, Choice)
Charizard (Battle Royale Decoration*) (Fire/Flying) (In Kalos Dex, Choice)
Squirtle (Evolves into Wartortle) (Water) (In Kalos Dex, Choice)
Wartortle (Evolves into Blastoise) (Water) (In Kalos Dex, Choice)
Blastoise (Concepts, but Starter) (Water) (In Kalos Dex, Choice)
Horsea (Fountain & Banner*) (Water) (In Kalos Dex)
Seadra (Evolves from Horsea) (Water) (In Kalos Dex)
Staryu (Banner*) (Water) (In Kalos Dex, Version Exclusive)
Starmie (Evolves from Staryu) (Water/Psychic) (In Kalos Dex, Version Exclusive)
Magikarp (Evolves into Gyarados) (Water) (In Kalos Dex)
Gyarados (Battle Royale Decoration*) (Water/Flying) (In Kalos Dex)
Porygon (Porygon Hairdryer*) (Normal) (Not in Kalos Dex)

Johto

Chinchou (Banner) (Water/Electric) (In Kalos Dex)
Lanturn (Evolves from Chinchou) (Water/Electric) (In Kalos Dex)
Dunsparce (QR Artwork, but Serperior) (Normal) (In Kalos Dex, Rare)
Kingdra (Evolves from Seadra) (Water/Dragon) (In Kalos Dex)
Porygon2 (Evolves from Porygon) (Normal) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Larvitar (Evolves into Pupitar) (Rock/Ground) (In Kalos Dex, Version Exclusive)
Pupitar (Evolves into Tyranitar) (Rock/Ground) (In Kalos Dex, Version Exclusive)
Tyranitar (Battle Royale Decoration*) (Rock/Dark) (In Kalos Dex, Version Exclusive)

Hoenn

Slakoth (Evolves into Vigoroth) (Normal) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Vigoroth (Evolves into Slaking) (Normal) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Slaking (Seen on Motel*) (Normal) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Meditite (Evolves into Medicham) (Psychic/Fighting) (In Kalos Dex)
Medicham (QR Artwork, but Serperior) (Psychic/Fighting) In Kalos Dex)
Spheal (Banner) (Water/Ice) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Sealeo(Evolves from Spheal) (Water/Ice) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Walrein (Evolves from Sealeo) (Water/Ice) (Not in Kalos Dex)

Sinnoh

Porygon-Z (Evolves from Porygon2) (Normal) (Not in Kalos Dex)

Unova

Snivy (Evolves into Servine) (Grass) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Servine (Evolves into Serperior) (Grass) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Serperior (QR Artwork, but Starter) (Grass) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Axew (Evolves into Fraxure) (Dragon) (In Kalos Dex)
Fraxure (Evolves into Haxorus) (Dragon) (In Kalos Dex)
Haxorus (Battle Royale Decoration*) (Dragon) (In Kalos Dex)

Kalos

Hawlucha (Riding Helmet*) (Fighting/Flying) (In Kalos Dex)

*However, Pokemon have been seen on objects when they aren't in that region's dex, such as Pikachu in Unova, and Milotic and Serperior in Kalos.

Spoiler: Possible Pokemon (via Association)

Kanto

Bulbasaur (Evolves into Ivysaur) (Grass/Poison) (In Kalos Dex, Choice)
Ivysaur (Evolves into Venusaur) (Grass/Poison) (In Kalos Dex, Choice)
Venusaur (via Blastoise) (Grass/Poison) (In Kalos Dex, Choice)
Charmander (Evolves into Charmeleon) (Fire) (In Kalos Dex, Choice)
Charmeleon (Evolves into Charizard) (Fire) (In Kalos Dex, Choice)
Charizard (via Blastoise) (Fire/Flying) (In Kalos Dex, Choice)
Weedle (via Caterpie) (Bug/Poison) (In Kalos Dex)
Kakuna (Evolves from Weedle) (Bug/Poison) (In Kalos Dex)
Beedrill (Evolves from Kakuna) (Bug/Poison) (In Kalos Dex)
Magmar (via Electabuzz) (Fire) (Not in Kalos Dex)

Johto

Spinarak (via Ledyba) (Bug/Poison) (In Kalos Dex, Bred)
Ariados (Evolves from Spinarak) (Bug/Poison) In Kalos Dex, Rare)
Magby (Evolves into Magmar) (Fire) (Not in Kalos Dex)

Sinnoh

Magmortar (Evolves from Magmar) (Fire) (Not in Kalos Dex)

Unova

Tepig (Evolves into Pignite) (Fire) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Pignite (Evolves into Emboar) (Fire/Fighting) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Emboar (via Serperior) (Fire/Fighting) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Oshawott (Evolves into Dewott) (Water) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Dewott (Evolves into Samurott)) (Water) (Not in Kalos Dex)
Samurott (via Serperior) (Water) (Not in Kalos Dex)

So far, I don't really see any types that are being properly neglected, except Ice, which tbh was expected. Just skimming through that list, I only see Glaceon, Lapras, and Walrein :s

 

[RihannaRTT]

Yeah Eevee goes from 123-131, but I'm assuming this is in one of the regional island dexes. That suggests to me that the island dexes would be about 140+ meaning the regional dex in total could be like 600 Pokemon.

Eevee was level 17 when battling the lv13 Miltank. We also saw it battling lv14 Poliwag before, and a lv18 Kangaskhan. So if levels are to be considered correct, I'd say we get Eevee about lv13-14 in the wild too. Since they have always arranged the dex by route, I imagine Eevee will be near the end of the Melemele dex, since I can't imagine only finding lv13-14 wild Pokemon at the end of the second island. Kangaskhan was clearly found on the second island but the Poliwag had a waterfall behind it which makes it seem like it's in the forest behind the starting town on Melemele.

 

[Wulava]

See those active volcanoes in the background. There's only one island that has them.

 

[King Shuckle]

See those active volcanoes in the background. There's only one island that has them.

Excuse my ignorance, but which one? The second island? We saw some molten rock backgrounds during Salandit's encounter. I am just trying to pinpoint where Eevee is.

 

[Nunn]

Excuse my ignorance, but which one? The second island? We saw some molten rock backgrounds during Salandit's encounter. I am just trying to pinpoint where Eevee is.

The North-East Island we are assuming is the second one, yeah.

Though I'm starting to think the South-East island might be the second one as they are covering it next month.

 

[RihannaRTT]

See those active volcanoes in the background. There's only one island that has them.

Urgh. Damn. This doesn't make sense. How is Eevee #123 in a regional dex if the regional dex it is in isn't Melemele. Unless levels aren't correct, Eevee was definitely seen at lv17. I refuse to believe that's as late as #123 in the second island Dex. It doesn't make sense. Surely?

Unless as well as the four island dexes, we have a full regional dex and then the national dex? In which case being #123 in the regional dex (overall) wouldn't be too hard to explain. That seems more likely tbh.


EDIT: wait. what if those are on Melemele? Couldn't that be Diamond Head Volcano? It doesn't seem lava enough for the second island....

 

[clbgolden12]

Urgh. Damn. This doesn't make sense. How is Eevee #123 in a regional dex if the regional dex it is in isn't Melemele. Unless levels aren't correct, Eevee was definitely seen at lv17. I refuse to believe that's as late as #123 in the second island Dex. It doesn't make sense. Surely?

Unless as well as the four island dexes, we have a full regional dex and then the national dex? In which case being #123 in the regional dex (overall) wouldn't be too hard to explain. That seems more likely tbh.


EDIT: wait. what if those are on Melemele? Couldn't that be Diamond Head Volcano? It doesn't seem lava enough for the second island....

Melemele's isn't active, though, while the volcano in the background is giving off smoke.

The lack of lava is probably because it's too far to see.

 

[Wulava]

Have you guys ever thought of the possibility that the Lv17 Eevee was a gift Pokemon given by someone on Melemele.
Then wild Eevees are actually found on the volcano island?

 

[clbgolden12]

Have you guys ever thought of the possibility that the Lv17 Eevee was a gift Pokemon given by someone on Melemele.
Then wild Eevees are actually found on the volcano island?

Wasn't the level 17 Eevee the one caught, though?

 

[Mega Altaria]

Wasn't the level 17 Eevee the one caught, though?

It's most likely the Eevee that was caught. Eevee wasn't seen prior to 0:47 of the recent Japanese trailer, it was wild at the time and was then used in battles starting at 1:04 after it was caught at 0:53.

But despite that, it's pretty conflicting that there are active volcanoes on the background and that Eevee's level is pretty low as a late Pokémon for the Pokédex of that island with active volcanoes.

 

[Nunn]

Have you guys ever thought of the possibility that the Lv17 Eevee was a gift Pokemon given by someone on Melemele.
Then wild Eevees are actually found on the volcano island?

I don't see the the problem with finding a lvl 17 pokemon on the alleged second island.

But also, maybe we shouldn't take levels from trailers too seriously.

 

[Alexander18]

Just hope the pokedex is not too big and not too small. Probably contains all gen 7 pokemon plus some older ones. Maybe 250 - 300 at the most.

 

[Skeith]

Urgh. Damn. This doesn't make sense. How is Eevee #123 in a regional dex if the regional dex it is in isn't Melemele. Unless levels aren't correct, Eevee was definitely seen at lv17. I refuse to believe that's as late as #123 in the second island Dex. It doesn't make sense. Surely?

Unless as well as the four island dexes, we have a full regional dex and then the national dex? In which case being #123 in the regional dex (overall) wouldn't be too hard to explain. That seems more likely tbh.


EDIT: wait. what if those are on Melemele? Couldn't that be Diamond Head Volcano? It doesn't seem lava enough for the second island....

In fairness each of the Kalos Dexes had over 150 Pokemon each (153 Central, 153 Coastal and 151 Mountain) and factor in that its confirmed that the routes will have a mixture of both old and new Pokemon its not all that farfetched to assume that each island will have a large dex, especially considering that each island seems to have its own themed area (volcano for north east, snowy mountain for south east).

 

[Nahiri]

Just hope the pokedex is not too big and not too small. Probably contains all gen 7 pokemon plus some older ones. Maybe 250 - 300 at the most.

I mean... yes it's kind of a given it'll include all gen 7 pokes and some older ones? It was confirmed Ledyba and Pichu at the very least are obtainable at E3....
The only ones probably excluded are mythicals, and that's just for the completion rewards.
Eevee is #120-something, so I kinda doubt the dex will be 250/300 small. I'd say closer to 500-600 is the ideal, and even that is probably pushing the limits.

 

[Tyranitar trainer]

I wouldn't take trailer levels quite so seriously, we don't know how accurate they are.