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American Politics: THANKS OBAMA

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Maedar

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Okay, you want to play hardball?

"Because of that one episode, that one episode, that would turn an issue into what it has become over the last two years. I think that's ridiculous. That's one of those things, where that issue...that I don't read, or that I'm not informed, it's one of those questions where I like to turn that around and ask the reporters, 'Why would it be that there is that perception that I don't read?'" --Sarah Palin, ABC interview with Barbara Walters, Dec. 9, 2010

"But obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies." --Sarah Palin, after being asked how she would handle the current hostilities between the two Koreas, interview on Glenn Beck's radio show, Nov. 24, 2010

"I want to help clean up the state that is so sorry today of journalism. And I have a communications degree." --Sarah Palin, Fox News interview with Sean Hannity, Nov. 22, 2010

"Who hijacked term: 'feminist'? A cackle of rads who want 2 crucify other women w/whom they disagree on a singular issue; it's ironic (& passé)" --Sarah Palin, in a Twitter message, Aug. 18, 2010

"Dr. Laura: don't retreat...reload! (Steps aside bc her 1st Amend.rights ceased 2exist thx 2activists trying 2silence "isn't American,not fair")" --Sarah Palin, in a Twitter message coming to the defense of Dr. Laura Schlessinger, the talk radio host who apologized and decided to retire from her highly-rated program after using the N-word on the air 11 times in 5 minutes, Aug. 18, 2010

"As we work and sightsee on America's largest island, we'll get to view more majestic bears, so now is a good time to draw attention to the political equivalent of the species." --Sarah Palin, referring to Kodiak Island in Alaska, even though Hawaii is America's biggest island, July 19, 2010

"Ground Zero Mosque supporters: doesn't it stab you in the heart, as it does ours throughout the heartland? Peaceful Muslims, pls refudiate." --a Tweet by Sarah Palin, which she quickly removed after being ridiculed for inventing the word "refudiate," July 18, 2010

"Peaceful New Yorkers, pls refute the Ground Zero mosque plan if you believe catastrophic pain caused @ Twin Towers site is too raw, too real." --a second Tweet by Sarah Palin, which she also removed after misusing the word "refute," July 18, 2010

"'Refudiate,' 'misunderestimate,' 'wee-wee'd up.' English is a living language. Shakespeare liked to coin new words too. Got to celebrate it!'" --a follow-up Tweet by Sarah Palin, proudly mistaking her illiteracy for literary genius, July 18, 2010

"[Barack and Michelle Obama] have power in their words. They could refudiate what it is that this group is saying." –Sarah Palin, on the NAACP charge of racism in the Tea Party movement, The Sean Hannity Show, Fox News, July 14, 2010

"We have a President, perhaps for the very first time since the founding of our republic, who doesn't appear to believe that America is the greatest earthly force for good the world has ever known." --Sarah Palin, Facebook note, June 30, 2010

"I would have waived the Jones Act, and some unions not might not like it, not union membership, but the union leaders, too many, who are thugs." --Sarah Palin, speaking at the Oil Palace in Tyler, Texas, June 26, 2010

"This is Reagan country (applause). Yeah! And perhaps it was destiny that the man who went to California's Eureka College would become so woven within and inter-linked to the Golden State." --Sarah Palin, blundering on Reagan's education while speaking at a fundraiser at California State University-Stanislaus. Eureka College is in Illinois. (June 25, 2010)

"What the federal government should have done is accept the assistance of foreign countries, of entrepreneurial Americans who have had solution that they wanted presented ... The Dutch and the Norwegians, they are known for dikes and for cleaning up water and for dealing with spills." --Sarah Palin, on solving the Gulf oil spill crisis, Fox News, June 15, 2010

"Shoot, I must have lived such a doggoned sheltered life as a normal, independent American up there in the Last Frontier, schooled with only public education and a lowly state university degree, because obviously I haven't learned enough to dismiss common sense." --Sarah Palin, on opposition to offshore oil drilling, Facebook note, June 13, 2010

"Here's an example of how it wastes some time. To be judged on or to be talked about on appearance—say chest size—it makes me wear layers, it makes me have to waste time figuring out what am I going to wear so that nobody will look in an area that I don't need them to look at." --Sarah Palin, Fox interview with Greta Van Susteren, June 12, 2010

"Unless government appropriately regulates oil developments and holds oil executives accountable, the public will not trust them to drill, baby, drill. And we must!" --Sarah Palin, Facebook note, June 8, 2010

"Extreme deep water drilling is not the preferred choice to meet our country's energy needs, but your protests and lawsuits and lies about onshore and shallow water drilling have locked up safer areas. It's catching up with you. The tragic, unprecedented deep water Gulf oil spill proves it." --Sarah Palin, blaming the Gulf oil spill disaster on "extreme environmentalists," Facebook note, June 2, 2010

"I think it's appalling and a violation of our freedom of the press." –Sarah Palin, speaking about the negative media coverage of Republican congressional candidate Vaughn Ward, Boise, Idaho, May 21, 2010

"We're all Arizonans now." --Sarah Palin, defending Arizona's new law cracking down on illegal immigration, May 15, 2010

"Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant -- they're quite clear -- that we would create law based on the God of the bible and the Ten Commandments." –-Sarah Palin, arguing that Judeo-Christian belief was the basis for American law and should continue to be used as a guiding force for creating future legislation, interview with Bill O'Reilly, May 6, 2010

"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn't that ironic?" --Sarah Palin, admitting that her family used to get treatment in Canada's single-payer health care system, despite having demonized such government-run programs as socialized medicine that will lead to death-panel-like rationing, March 6, 2010

Sarah Palin, on writing notes on her hand during her Tea Party convention speech: "I didn't really had a good answer, as so often -- is me. But then somebody sent me the other day, Isaiah 49:16, and you need to go home and look it up. Before you look it up, I'll tell you what it says though. It says, hey, if it was good enough for God, scribbling on the palm of his hand, it's good enough for me, for us. He says, in that passage, 'I wrote your name on the palm of my hand to remember you,' and I'm like, 'Okay, I'm in good company.'" (March 5, 2010)

"They are kooks, so I agree with Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh was using satire ... I didn't hear Rush Limbaugh calling a group of people whom he did not agree with 'f-ing retards,' and we did know that Rahm Emanuel, as has been reported, did say that. There is a big difference there." --Sarah Palin, attempting to rationalize why it's okay for Limbaugh to use the word "retards" but not Emanuel, FOX News Sunday interview, Feb. 7, 2010

"Who calls a shot like that? Who makes a decision like that? It's a disturbing trend." –Sarah Palin, pushing a conspiracy theory that "In God We Trust" had been moved to the edge of coins by the Obama administration (the change was made by the Bush administration in 2007 and was later reversed by Congress, before Obama took office), West Allis, Wisconsin, Nov. 6, 2009

"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil." –-Sarah Palin, in a message posted on Facebook about Obama's health care plan, Aug. 12, 2009

"Left Unalakleet warmth for rain in Juneau tonite. No drought threat down here, ever but consistent rain reminds us: 'No rain? No rainbow!'" --one of many Tweets by Sarah Palin that William Shatner recited as poetry on "The Tonight Show"

"I think on a national level your Department of Law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out." --Sarah Palin, referring to a department that does not exist while attempting to explain why as president she wouldn't be subjected to the same ethics investigations that compelled her to resign as governor of Alaska, ABC News interview, July 7, 2009

"How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it's about country. And though it's honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make." --Sarah Palin, July 4, 2009

"It may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: 'Sit down and shut up,' but that's the worthless, easy path; that's a quitter's way out." --Sarah Palin, announcing her resignation as governor, July 3, 2009

"Let me go back to a comfortable analogy for me - sports... basketball. I use it because you're naive if you don't see the national full-court press picking away right now: A good point guard drives through a full court press, protecting the ball, keeping her eye on the basket... and she knows exactly when to pass the ball so that the team can WIN." --Sarah Palin, announcing her resignation, July 3, 2009

"Only dead fish go with the flow." --Sarah Palin, quitting, July 3, 2009

"Letterman certainly has the right to 'joke' about whatever he wants to, and thankfully we have the right to express our reaction. This is all thanks to our U.S. military women and men putting their lives on the line for us to secure America's Right to Free Speech - in this case, may that right be used to promote equality and respect." --Sarah Palin, misunderstanding the First Amendment, June 16, 2009

"That was fun!" --Sarah Palin, conducting an interview after pardoning a turkey for Thanksgiving while other turkeys were slaughtered in the background, Nov. 20, 2008

"I'm like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door. Show me where the open door is." --Sarah Palin, on running for national office in the future, FOX News interview, Nov. 10, 2008

"John McCain and I, we love you and thank you for spending a few minutes to talk to me." --Sarah Palin, talking with Canadian radio prankster posing as French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Nov. 1, 2008

"Ohh, good, thank you, yes." --Sarah Palin, after the Canadian prank caller complimented her on the documentary about her life, Hustler's "Nailin Paylin," Nov. 1, 2008

"We realize that more and more Americans are starting to see the light there and understand the contrast. And we talk a lot about, OK, we're confident that we're going to win on Tuesday, so from there, the first 100 days, how are we going to kick in the plan that will get this economy back on the right track and really shore up the strategies that we need over in Iraq and Iran to win these wars?" --Sarah Palin, suggesting we are at war with Iran, FOX News interview, Nov. 1, 2008

Want me to add Bachmann's too? They're even dumber.
 

BigLutz

Banned
Okay, you want to play hardball?

I told you I am not going to get into a pissing contest with you over this because Biden has more years. Not to mention some of these on Palin are not even bad. I mean look at some of these.

"Let me go back to a comfortable analogy for me - sports... basketball. I use it because you're naive if you don't see the national full-court press picking away right now: A good point guard drives through a full court press, protecting the ball, keeping her eye on the basket... and she knows exactly when to pass the ball so that the team can WIN."

"We're all Arizonans now."

"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil."

"I would have waived the Jones Act, and some unions not might not like it, not union membership, but the union leaders, too many, who are thugs."

"Unless government appropriately regulates oil developments and holds oil executives accountable, the public will not trust them to drill, baby, drill. And we must!"

"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn't that ironic?" ( Idiotic thing on who ever you copied/pasted this from, she did it in the 60s, the Federal Cost sharing wasn't until the 70s in Canada http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/...ts-canadian-socialized-medicine-or-something/ )

"Extreme deep water drilling is not the preferred choice to meet our country's energy needs, but your protests and lawsuits and lies about onshore and shallow water drilling have locked up safer areas. It's catching up with you. The tragic, unprecedented deep water Gulf oil spill proves it."

I mean alot of these are political in nature, and not a gaff like I did with Biden's. Either way as I said before atleast Palin is not suggesting we give millions to Iran with no strings attached, a country who has terrorist ties, just so that they will like us.

SilverSoul said:
Here are some Palinisms to share that happened recently. Palin on Syria: "Let Allah sort it out."

And the problem with that one is?
 
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Maedar

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I told you I am not going to get into a pissing contest with you over this because Biden has more years.

...which you said right before you quoted more of his gaffes.
 

BigLutz

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...which you said right before you quoted more of his gaffes.

Take a look again those are some of your Palin quotes that I am noting are not gaffes at all but merely the left attacking her for having a Conservative opinion, or in the case of the Healthcare one, a mistake made by the person who compiled them. I will note however that you have not even refuted one Biden gaffe, and when it came to the racist 7/11 one, you had no excuse for it but "you believe that too!!!!!!11111111111"
 
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Maedar

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You have yet to refute LOTS of things I said. I keep saying that you won't deny that the GOP's reputation has been hurt by the Steve King Amendment, and you won't. All you keep doing is hitting me over the head with the fact that "the law supports it", a view to oppose my claim that, "even though they could doesn't mean they should" to paraphrase the character in Jurassic Park. (I forget his name; after all, the dinosaurs were the real stars of that movie, not any human actors.)

On another note, Lutz, here are a few things that the GOP want:

-Larger Border Patrols

-Bigger Armies

-More Prisons

-More Mandatory Medical Procedures Forced On Women

-Increased Voter Suppression

-Government Intervention on Marriage

-Criminalization of a Woman's right To Choose

-Government Declaration of Personhood

Why do they want all this, you ask? Because they "want a smaller government".
 
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BigLutz

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Where are the polls to back up your claim?
 

WizardTrubbish

much more beastly
He later said it was not meant to be derogatory. And by the way, Lutz, you do know that this stereotype is fairly common, right? Ever watch The Simpsons?
I usually agree with you, but I think the Vice President should be held up to a higher standard than a comedy show.
Where are the polls to back up your claim?
I don't know about polls, but how about the party platform?
-Larger Border Patrols
"The double-layered fencing on the border that was enacted by Congress in 2006, but never completed, must finally be built
-Bigger Armies
"The Republican party is an advocate fora strong national defense as the pathway to peace"
-More Prisons
I couldn't find anything to support this
-More Mandatory Medical Procedures Forced On Women
While I've heard of many red state governors doing this, nothing in the platform
-Increased Voter Suppression
"We applaud legislation to require photo identification for voting"
-Government Intervention on Marriage
We reaffirm our support for a Constitutional amendment defining marriage as a union between one man and one woman
-Criminalization of a Woman's right To Choose
"We support a human life amendment to the constitution"
-Government Declaration of Personhood
Couldn't find anything
 

Maedar

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-Government Declaration of Personhood
Couldn't find anything

You've never heard of the "Personhood bills", which would give embryos the legal rights of citizens, making ALL abortions considered murder?

All of them have failed, as they are simply a way to defy Roe v. Wade and make abortion illegal using a loophole.
 

WizardTrubbish

much more beastly
You've never heard of the "Personhood bills", which would give embryos the legal rights of citizens, making ALL abortions considered murder?

All of them have failed, as they are simply a way to defy Roe v. Wade and make abortion illegal using a loophole.

I was referring to the platform. It may have been in there, but I only skimmed it
 

BigLutz

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On another note, Lutz, here are a few things that the GOP want:

-Larger Border Patrols

The public wants this as well

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/border-security-poll-89620.html

The sad thing is that one day we will have a nuke, or some other kind of WMD sneak across the border, probably taken from Assad's stockpile, and it will end up killing tens of thousands. And the public will turn to the Democrats and ask "Why did you leave us so vulnerable?"

-Bigger Armies

I would love to have peace, but last time I checked we are at war. Are you saying its only the GOP that wants to defeat al Qaeda?

-More Prisons

Our prisons are overflowing already and many criminals get shorter sentences or released all together. Does the Democratic party support releasing criminals early?

-More Mandatory Medical Procedures Forced On Women
-Government Intervention on Marriage

-Criminalization of a Woman's right To Choose

-Government Declaration of Personhood

All three of these should be handled by the state per the 10th Amendment.

-Increased Voter Suppression

You have been pushing this forever, and yet when we look at Georgia and Indiana we saw a UPTICK of voters in 2008. But hey it is only the idea of One Man, One Vote, and that isn't important or anything!

Why do they want all this, you ask? Because they "want a smaller government".

We do, and we can have it, having smaller government and many of these things does not automatically make a massive government.

Edit: A Great story by Forbes of how the rate shock of Obamacare will hurt men and women.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot...e-premiums-due-to-obamacare/?partner=yahootix
 
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Maedar

Banned
Btw, speaking of voter suppression, did you hear what the Supreme Court thinks of Arizona's Voter Registration Citizen Requirement?

Stuck down by a vote of 7 to 2, and btw, this time, even Scalia wasn't one of the dissenters. (He and Kagan actually voted on the same side; will wonders never cease?)
 

BigLutz

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Btw, speaking of voter suppression, did you hear what the Supreme Court thinks of Arizona's Voter Registration Citizen Requirement?

Stuck down by a vote of 7 to 2, and btw, this time, even Scalia wasn't one of the dissenters. (He and Kagan actually voted on the same side; will wonders never cease?)

Notice this deals with voter registration not the laws requiring a ID to vote

I also noticed you didn't post the CNN poll I seem to remember last month you used the poll to say Obama was not hurt by these "non scandals" and now he has dropped 8 points and Americans do not trust him for the first time in his administration ..... Silence

Not to mention I have not seen your proof yet to back up your claim about republicans losing support over that amendment
 

Maedar

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The law was an attack on vulnerable voter groups such as minorities, immigrants and the elderly. (Deny it all you want, no-one will believe you.)

As for Obama, the eight-point drop was over a much longer time than you folks are making it look. His approval rating is now at 45%. You people make it sound like he dropped eight points from his previous rating of 46%. Apparently, you're bad at math. The "scandal" alone made it drop one point.

Btw, about that "scandal". The government actually listened in on all of... three-hundred conversations, as it turned out (not the millions you people are making it look like), and had actually foiled numerous terrorist plots, not only against America, but against our allies, because of it.

Oh, btw... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/17/rick-perry-benghazi-lebanon_n_3453233.html?ref=topbar
 
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bel9

n3w 2 sppf :3
Please inform me more on feminazis so that I may protect myself. How do I identify these women? Give me names.
 

Silver Soul

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Um Lutz, people are just concerned about the PRISM thing. I mean, aren't you Republicans for that.

Also, guess Rick Perry was one of those voters who believe that Benghazi is not in Libya. Oops
 
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Maedar

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Please inform me more on feminazis so that I may protect myself. How do I identify these women? Give me names.

Bel, I wouldn't take anything Rush takes seriously. The guy was a college dropout.

IMOHO, the only difference between him and a homeless man screaming on a street corner is that he has an agent and a studio contract.

The most ironic thing about Perry's gaffe is that the incident in Lebanon occurred during Reagan's watch, and resulted in the deaths of more than 230 American Marines. Reagan cut and ran after that. But Perry, along with the rest of the GOP, have no understanding of history, and view Benghazi as even worse, simply because it happened under Obama's watch.
 
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BigLutz

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The law was an attack on vulnerable voter groups such as minorities, immigrants and the elderly. (Deny it all you want, no-one will believe you.)

Just curious if you honestly believe that then you must also believe that any kind of forced identification on gun or ammo purchases is also a attack on minorities, immigrants, and the elderly.

As for Obama, the eight-point drop was over a much longer time than you folks are making it look. His approval rating is now at 45%. You people make it sound like he dropped eight points from his previous rating of 46%. Apparently, you're bad at math. The "scandal" alone made it drop one point.

"The president’s approval rating stands at 45%, down from 53% in mid-May. And 54% say they disapprove of how Obama’s handling his job, up nine points from last month. It’s the first time in CNN polling since November 2011 that a majority of Americans have had a negative view of the president."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/17/cnn-poll-obama-approval-falls-amid-controversies/

Now I may be "bad at math" but 53 - 45 is a 8 point drop not a one point drop as for the scandals hurting him, again I post from the same article.

""It is clear that revelations about NSA surveillance programs have damaged Obama's standing with the public, although older controversies like the IRS matter may have begun to take their toll as well," adds Holland."

Btw, about that "scandal". The government actually listened in on all of... three-hundred conversations, as it turned out (not the millions you people are making it look like), and had actually foiled numerous terrorist plots, not only against America, but against our allies, because of it.

Hmm I wonder what Joe Biden has to say about this whole thing... wait hold on lets ask him!

“I don’t have to listen to your phone calls to know what you’re doing. If I know every single phone call you made, I’m able to determine every single person you talked to. I can get a pattern about your life that is very, very intrusive.” - Joe Biden 2006

Wait hold on! Senator Obama also wishes to join in on condemning the acts of this Admenistration!

"“…And if someone wants to know why their own government has decided to go on a fishing expedition through every personal record or private document – through library books that you read the phone calls you’ve made, the emails that you’ve sent – this legislation gives people no rights to appeal the need for such a search in a court of law. No judge will hear their plea, no jury will hear their case. This is just plain wrong. Giving law enforcement the tools they need to investigate suspicious activity is one thing – and it’s the right thing – but doing it without any real oversight seriously jeopardizes the rights of all Americans and the ideals America stands for.”" - Senator Obama 2005

Another "Do as I say not as I do" moment brought to you by the Obama Administration!


That crazy Rick Perry, confusing two nations names, thank goodness we have a President that doesn't do that.

oh wait...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...s-gaffe-by-calling-Malvinas-the-Maldives.html
 
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Maedar

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"But obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies." - Palin

At least he didn't make that big a mistake.
 
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