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Amourshipping (Ash x Serena) General Discussion (SPOILER WARNING)

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Optimus Prime 44

Follow The Buzzards
I can already imagine the ending of XY.. Ash and the gang arrive at Serena's mother's house and they stay the night before Ash has to return back to kanto the next morning. Serena is heavily depressed because she has yet to tell ash how she feels about him. Serena's mother notices immediately that Serena has feelings for ash, by the way she looks at him. So she teases Serena about wanting a boyfriend at the dinner table which causes Serena to get upset. Then Serena's mother asks ash does he have any feelings for anyone? but! before he answers Serena just tells Ash not to and runs away into her room upset. Serena's mother insists Ash should be the one to comfort her, despite him insisting she should do it.

Ash asks Serena why she stormed out and she starts getting angry saying words like "You don't understand, You never will!" Then she calms down and tells a story about how she has had feelings for this 1 person her entire life, but she's afraid of telling him, thinking it will ruin everything. Ash then grabs her by the hand and said you shouldn't hide your feelings. That person deserves to know how you feel. "Little does he know, Serena has feelings towards him."

Serena stares blankly into Ash's eyes, and then says "meeting you was harder then anything i have ever done before, because i know I'll have to say goodbye to you one day." she thanks Ash and walks away. As the gang goes to sleep, Bonnie decides to sneak into Serena's room while Serena was preparing a speech to confess her feelings towards Ash, and when the name Ash drops, Bonnie says i knew it!!! Serena notices immediately and asks her to be quiet.. Bonnie asks why did you keep this til the final minute? Serena is unsure why she left it so late. They end up spending the night talking about how romantic would it be if Ash stayed for you and Serena starts blushing a little. After a while they all go to sleep.

The next morning arrives and Ash is about to depart and so the gang start all saying their goodbyes. Bonnie nudges Serena and says she has something really special to say for you. Ash asks Serena what is it? Serena starts getting all nervous and before words come out of her mouth, she starts having this massive flashback on her journey with Ash.. She starts tearing up and says to Ash, thank you for everything. The memories you and i had will always be in my heart for ever and i couldn't imagine another day without you. So this is why i have to say this.. Then before the words come out, team rocket arrives and steals Ash's pikachu, which causes a battle. After the battle Ash realizes he late for his plane and asks Serena what was it and she becomes still.. Then just yells, go! just go! Bonnie and Clemont get into the car with Ash and then suddenly Serena insists she has to leave. She explains that she has to see the professor and ask something about her fenniken. So she runs away immediately.. Clemont looks speechless, while Bonnie looks annoyed.

As they are rushing towards the airport, Ash turns around and says he is still worried about Serena and wished she was here for this final goodbye. Bonnie interrupts Ash and says she couldn't, she cares about you too much to see you leave. Ash understands, so he says his goodbye. As Ash is about to board the plane he hears Serena yelling his name. Ash then suddenly turns around but is warned this is the final boarding for kanto. Serena then yells these words, "Ash!" "Stay!" "I have something to say to you!" He charges down the stairs and as they both stare into each others eyes, she said about last night? When you said if i have feelings for someone, i should tell them, right? Ash then tells Serena he remembers telling her about that. Serena then says, well.. About that person.. It's you.. She then kisses Ash on the cheek and runs away. Ash looks at Bonnie and Clemont and he see's his plane is about to leave. Wondering what he would do, he ask's Bonnie and Clemont for advice. Bonnie then stomps him on the foot and says, go after her! it took a lot for her to say that to you! Ash then runs after Serena and he see's her leaving the airport. He grabs her by the arm and turns her around and says, "It was me all along?" "Why didn't you tell me sooner?" Serena then says she was afraid. Afraid of what you would think and afraid of what would happen to our friendship. Ash then tells her, you shouldn't ever be afraid to do anything in your life. And then they look into each others eyes and kiss..

The end!

This............. has to be a joke. This is Pokemon, not Twilight. A buildup over something non-pokemon related is laughable at best. More likely that Serena decides to tag along with Ash in the next gen then admitted something VERY IMPORTANT when only with him for a year.
 
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Lorde

Let's go to the beach, each.
If Serena staring at Ash and Ash helping Serena across something are considered the AmourShipping highlights of the movie, then shipping hints must've been really scarce in general. I just don't see those scenarios as being progressive as far as Ash and Serena's relationship is concerned. I expected a little more tbh.
 

Optimus Prime 44

Follow The Buzzards
Doesn't anyone else find it odd that we're already 1/4 of the way thru XY and Serena still doesn't have a goal? This is borderline unacceptable because her character is getting stale. She's barely getting promoted. The gang only has one goal and that's for Ash to win the Pokemon League. The group route wouldn't be affected greatly if she wasn't in it. This is why it's so bad UNLESS :

XY is the gen where Serena is still learning on what she wants to do. And at the end of XY, Serena finally tells the gang her goal and that the competition is in the next gen's region (Coincidencely the next region Ash plans on going). And then Serena asks Ash if he can help her with her goal (Ya know 'cause he kinda promised to help her with her goal in XY7) and travel with him around the NEXT region. And then the next gen is where Serena has her goal and does her thing. XY could be a framework. She could possibly admit her feelings NEXT gen.

But I just find it ridiculous that she has no goals and it will remain that way, considering the fact it WAS mentioned in the anime.
 

BlueDragonfangirl

Well-Known Member
If Serena staring at Ash and Ash helping Serena across something are considered the AmourShipping highlights of the movie, then shipping hints must've been really scarce in general. I just don't see those scenarios as being progressive as far as Ash and Serena's relationship is concerned. I expected a little more tbh.

It's always like that with first flicks of the new series, than as films move on we get more. I look forward to what's in store for us in movie two :D
 

SickboyRawrs

Well-Known Member
This............. has to be a joke. This is Pokemon, not Twilight. A buildup over something non-pokemon related is laughable at best. More likely that Serena decides to tag along with Ash in the next gen then admitted something VERY IMPORTANT when only with him for a year.
>This is Pokemon, not Twilight.
>Kek
I still thinking that Serena is join Ash in the next adventure. Maybe as a couple, maybe they both actually have canon crush for each other just they don't have the balls to tell.
 

Sephora

yes I'm back
The "hand-holding" thing is never a big deal, since Ash always does it. The only thing that probably stood out was the scene with Serena looking at Ash while he was with Diancie from her tent. I guess I'd have to see it for myself...but it's the only moment out of the ones mentioned that is probably hint worthy.

Serena looking at Ash was a very cute scene; definitely considered a hint. Better than nothing I guess hehe

If Serena staring at Ash and Ash helping Serena across something are considered the AmourShipping highlights of the movie, then shipping hints must've been really scarce in general. I just don't see those scenarios as being progressive as far as Ash and Serena's relationship is concerned. I expected a little more tbh.

I expected more as well to be honest. Hopefully the next movie will have something more.

Doesn't anyone else find it odd that we're already 1/4 of the way thru XY and Serena still doesn't have a goal?

Irrelevant to this thread. Bye.
 

Graham Aker

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Serena looking at Ash was a very cute scene; definitely considered a hint. Better than nothing I guess hehe

Right now I'm most looking forward to the context of the scene with Serena and Ash falling in the Serena vs Shuana episode.

I don't know what to make of the Mirror Verse episode. Everyone seems "superior" to their regular counter-parts. Clemont is athletic, Serena is determined, and YMMV on Bonnie being lady-like. But they made Ash's personality worse. I can't really see this episode being beneficial to Amour (if people here a looking to see hints in this episode) since Mirror Ash will be the weakling in the group, and I can't see Mirror Serena liking him lol.
 

pkmmkp

Active Member
I can already imagine the ending of XY.. Ash and the gang arrive at Serena's mother's house and they stay the night before Ash has to return back to kanto the next morning. Serena is heavily depressed because she has yet to tell ash how she feels about him. Serena's mother notices immediately that Serena has feelings for ash, by the way she looks at him. So she teases Serena about wanting a boyfriend at the dinner table which causes Serena to get upset. Then Serena's mother asks ash does he have any feelings for anyone? but! before he answers Serena just tells Ash not to and runs away into her room upset. Serena's mother insists Ash should be the one to comfort her, despite him insisting she should do it.

Ash asks Serena why she stormed out and she starts getting angry saying words like "You don't understand, You never will!" Then she calms down and tells a story about how she has had feelings for this 1 person her entire life, but she's afraid of telling him, thinking it will ruin everything. Ash then grabs her by the hand and said you shouldn't hide your feelings. That person deserves to know how you feel. "Little does he know, Serena has feelings towards him."

Serena stares blankly into Ash's eyes, and then says "meeting you was harder then anything i have ever done before, because i know I'll have to say goodbye to you one day." she thanks Ash and walks away. As the gang goes to sleep, Bonnie decides to sneak into Serena's room while Serena was preparing a speech to confess her feelings towards Ash, and when the name Ash drops, Bonnie says i knew it!!! Serena notices immediately and asks her to be quiet.. Bonnie asks why did you keep this til the final minute? Serena is unsure why she left it so late. They end up spending the night talking about how romantic would it be if Ash stayed for you and Serena starts blushing a little. After a while they all go to sleep.

The next morning arrives and Ash is about to depart and so the gang start all saying their goodbyes. Bonnie nudges Serena and says she has something really special to say for you. Ash asks Serena what is it? Serena starts getting all nervous and before words come out of her mouth, she starts having this massive flashback on her journey with Ash.. She starts tearing up and says to Ash, thank you for everything. The memories you and i had will always be in my heart for ever and i couldn't imagine another day without you. So this is why i have to say this.. Then before the words come out, team rocket arrives and steals Ash's pikachu, which causes a battle. After the battle Ash realizes he late for his plane and asks Serena what was it and she becomes still.. Then just yells, go! just go! Bonnie and Clemont get into the car with Ash and then suddenly Serena insists she has to leave. She explains that she has to see the professor and ask something about her fenniken. So she runs away immediately.. Clemont looks speechless, while Bonnie looks annoyed.

As they are rushing towards the airport, Ash turns around and says he is still worried about Serena and wished she was here for this final goodbye. Bonnie interrupts Ash and says she couldn't, she cares about you too much to see you leave. Ash understands, so he says his goodbye. As Ash is about to board the plane he hears Serena yelling his name. Ash then suddenly turns around but is warned this is the final boarding for kanto. Serena then yells these words, "Ash!" "Stay!" "I have something to say to you!" He charges down the stairs and as they both stare into each others eyes, she said about last night? When you said if i have feelings for someone, i should tell them, right? Ash then tells Serena he remembers telling her about that. Serena then says, well.. About that person.. It's you.. She then kisses Ash on the cheek and runs away. Ash looks at Bonnie and Clemont and he see's his plane is about to leave. Wondering what he would do, he ask's Bonnie and Clemont for advice. Bonnie then stomps him on the foot and says, go after her! it took a lot for her to say that to you! Ash then runs after Serena and he see's her leaving the airport. He grabs her by the arm and turns her around and says, "It was me all along?" "Why didn't you tell me sooner?" Serena then says she was afraid. Afraid of what you would think and afraid of what would happen to our friendship. Ash then tells her, you shouldn't ever be afraid to do anything in your life. And then they look into each others eyes and kiss..

The end!

and THAT would be an ideal ending for amourshipping. but i think there's little to no chance of that happening, at least not that dramatic though...
BUT I do think the writers could do something in the future to make us all happy in some way, maybe like kinda in a relationship but no kisses or something like that? I still have hope they can surprise us in some way, and not just in hints, but something solid.
 

zzz1000120

Well-Known Member
Right now I'm most looking forward to the context of the scene with Serena and Ash falling in the Serena vs Shuana episode.

I don't know what to make of the Mirror Verse episode. Everyone seems "superior" to their regular counter-parts. Clemont is athletic, Serena is determined, and YMMV on Bonnie being lady-like. But they made Ash's personality worse. I can't really see this episode being beneficial to Amour (if people here a looking to see hints in this episode) since Mirror Ash will be the weakling in the group, and I can't see Mirror Serena liking him lol.

That might be a good thing if M-Serena doesn't like M-Ash because if their character traits are opposite of their real counterparts then it would validate real Serena's crush on Ash, but if M-Ash likes M-Serena more than just a friend that can be considered an antihint because it would show that Ash doesn't consider as more than just a friend as of that episode.
 

matthew11

8000 MMR
That might be a good thing if M-Serena doesn't like M-Ash because if their character traits are opposite of their real counterparts then it would validate real Serena's crush on Ash, but if M-Ash likes M-Serena more than just a friend that can be considered an antihint because it would show that Ash doesn't consider as more than just a friend as of that episode.

But, what if M-Ash does NOT like M-Serena more than a friend? IMO real Ash has suppressed feelings for Serena in regards to the cheek scratching in ep7. With that, chances for Amourshipping to become canon increases. On the other hand, it could be neutral.
 
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Everlasting

Everything stays.
I can already imagine the ending of XY.. Ash and the gang arrive at Serena's mother's house and they stay the night before Ash has to return back to kanto the next morning. Serena is heavily depressed because she has yet to tell ash how she feels about him. Serena's mother notices immediately that Serena has feelings for ash, by the way she looks at him. So she teases Serena about wanting a boyfriend at the dinner table which causes Serena to get upset. Then Serena's mother asks ash does he have any feelings for anyone? but! before he answers Serena just tells Ash not to and runs away into her room upset. Serena's mother insists Ash should be the one to comfort her, despite him insisting she should do it.

Ash asks Serena why she stormed out and she starts getting angry saying words like "You don't understand, You never will!" Then she calms down and tells a story about how she has had feelings for this 1 person her entire life, but she's afraid of telling him, thinking it will ruin everything. Ash then grabs her by the hand and said you shouldn't hide your feelings. That person deserves to know how you feel. "Little does he know, Serena has feelings towards him."

Serena stares blankly into Ash's eyes, and then says "meeting you was harder then anything i have ever done before, because i know I'll have to say goodbye to you one day." she thanks Ash and walks away. As the gang goes to sleep, Bonnie decides to sneak into Serena's room while Serena was preparing a speech to confess her feelings towards Ash, and when the name Ash drops, Bonnie says i knew it!!! Serena notices immediately and asks her to be quiet.. Bonnie asks why did you keep this til the final minute? Serena is unsure why she left it so late. They end up spending the night talking about how romantic would it be if Ash stayed for you and Serena starts blushing a little. After a while they all go to sleep.

The next morning arrives and Ash is about to depart and so the gang start all saying their goodbyes. Bonnie nudges Serena and says she has something really special to say for you. Ash asks Serena what is it? Serena starts getting all nervous and before words come out of her mouth, she starts having this massive flashback on her journey with Ash.. She starts tearing up and says to Ash, thank you for everything. The memories you and i had will always be in my heart for ever and i couldn't imagine another day without you. So this is why i have to say this.. Then before the words come out, team rocket arrives and steals Ash's pikachu, which causes a battle. After the battle Ash realizes he late for his plane and asks Serena what was it and she becomes still.. Then just yells, go! just go! Bonnie and Clemont get into the car with Ash and then suddenly Serena insists she has to leave. She explains that she has to see the professor and ask something about her fenniken. So she runs away immediately.. Clemont looks speechless, while Bonnie looks annoyed.

As they are rushing towards the airport, Ash turns around and says he is still worried about Serena and wished she was here for this final goodbye. Bonnie interrupts Ash and says she couldn't, she cares about you too much to see you leave. Ash understands, so he says his goodbye. As Ash is about to board the plane he hears Serena yelling his name. Ash then suddenly turns around but is warned this is the final boarding for kanto. Serena then yells these words, "Ash!" "Stay!" "I have something to say to you!" He charges down the stairs and as they both stare into each others eyes, she said about last night? When you said if i have feelings for someone, i should tell them, right? Ash then tells Serena he remembers telling her about that. Serena then says, well.. About that person.. It's you.. She then kisses Ash on the cheek and runs away. Ash looks at Bonnie and Clemont and he see's his plane is about to leave. Wondering what he would do, he ask's Bonnie and Clemont for advice. Bonnie then stomps him on the foot and says, go after her! it took a lot for her to say that to you! Ash then runs after Serena and he see's her leaving the airport. He grabs her by the arm and turns her around and says, "It was me all along?" "Why didn't you tell me sooner?" Serena then says she was afraid. Afraid of what you would think and afraid of what would happen to our friendship. Ash then tells her, you shouldn't ever be afraid to do anything in your life. And then they look into each others eyes and kiss..

The end!

Why do you feel the need to do that ? ;_; So precious! \;w;\
I have doubts something like that could ever happen but if it did, then wow, I'd be speechless... I really love the ending you wrote!

It reminds me of Avatar: The Last Airbender's ending kiss with Aang and Katara a little bit. ATLA wasn't meant for a very old audience as well and they still did it, and it was beautiful. I don't know why love isn't fully approached like that cartoon.
 
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Midnight Reality

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ATLA (great show, by the way) was intended for a slightly older age range than Pokémon is, though. Like, characters openly kiss eachother in that show. I just watched "The Bicker the Better" yesterday, and the couple that really loved eachother realistically could've kissed once. It didn't happen, though, likely because this show is intended for a younger audience.
 

Everlasting

Everything stays.
ATLA (great show, by the way) was intended for a slightly older age range than Pokémon is, though. Like, characters openly kiss eachother in that show. I just watched "The Bicker the Better" yesterday, and the couple that really loved eachother realistically could've kissed once. It didn't happen, though, likely because this show is intended for a younger audience.

I get what you mean. I really loved ATLA (great isn't enough to describe it; try glorious, amazing or perfect instead :D) and I liked how a much more realistic character relationships are. That's something Pokémon doesn't seem to have, and that's a big disappointement. I'm hoping Serena breaks through that lack and changes the form of the anime a little bit...
 
AmourShipping is by far the most developed ship of pokemon. Even if it is just one.sided we get more hints than by ash's other female companion. I like the Idea having a companion that has a crush on ash because we haven't got this experience in the whole poke series. I hope Ash will handle the whole situation like a man and won't be only thinking about Pokemon and be the master all the time. I wonder, what do the next episodes and the Summer-Camp Arc bring to us. And I hope after seeing Charmander Ash will get his Charizard at some point... ^^
 

rstar000

Member
AmourShipping is by far the most developed ship of pokemon. Even if it is just one.sided we get more hints than by ash's other female companion. I like the Idea having a companion that has a crush on ash because we haven't got this experience in the whole poke series. I hope Ash will handle the whole situation like a man and won't be only thinking about Pokemon and be the master all the time. I wonder, what do the next episodes and the Summer-Camp Arc bring to us. And I hope after seeing Charmander Ash will get his Charizard at some point... ^^
Next episode will be sky battles and Ash and Serena may be battling together. Also this season Ash seems more mature and acts like a gentleman with almost everyone, its definitely a noticeble change from the rest of the series.
 

Chianti

4 / 9 / 2014
Pokemon seems scripted and the dialogs are very unrealistic and "fake". Maybe its just the english dub, i don't know japanese, but sometimes the way they speak makes me cringe...
Another great cartoon that could be compared to pokemon is adventure time(both are on cartoon network and both have a tv-pg rating, which is 14+ if i'm right). And adventure time just blows pokemon out of the water when it comes to character development and storyteling. There is stuff you just don't expect from a kids show. And that's because it isn't one. Pokemon became pg just starting this season and maybe even though the target audience is the same, this could indicate that we will get more mature themes in the future episodes.

Don't come here bashing about the animé, especially when it has nothing to do with SatoSere. Anyways, it already feels a bit more mature already. The writers are taking a step in the right direction.

Next episode will be sky battles and Ash and Serena may be battling together. Also this season Ash seems more mature and acts like a gentleman with almost everyone, its definitely a noticeble change from the rest of the series.

Serena doesn't have any Pokémon eligible for the Sky Battle, and Satoshi only has one. *glares at Luchabull* It seems very focused on Yayakoma and Luchabull. She does seem to be wearing a suit, so supposedly she is flying up to watch the battle and cheer Satoshi on. The only hint I could see happening is Sere asking Satoshi how she looks, but I really hope that line doesn't get used too much.
 
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Lorde

Let's go to the beach, each.
ATLA (great show, by the way) was intended for a slightly older age range than Pokémon is, though. Like, characters openly kiss eachother in that show. I just watched "The Bicker the Better" yesterday, and the couple that really loved eachother realistically could've kissed once. It didn't happen, though, likely because this show is intended for a younger audience.

Well yes, they're two completely different shows that originated in different countries, which is why I've never understood the comparisons. Anyway, I have no interest in the mirror episode since Ash and Serena are supposedly separated in said episode and I don't think Mirror Ash and Serena will give us any AmourShipping hints.
 
If the Mirror Episode brings us an AmourShipping Hint by mirror ash then there would be also a negative side. That means the real world ash wouldn't have any interests in Serena by this moment.
 

Hakajin

Obsessive Shipper
Why do you feel the need to do that ? ;_; So precious! \;w;\
I have doubts something like that could ever happen but if it did, then wow, I'd be speechless... I really love the ending you wrote!

It reminds me of Avatar: The Last Airbender's ending kiss with Aang and Katara a little bit. ATLA wasn't meant for a very old audience as well and they still did it, and it was beautiful. I don't know why love isn't fully approached like that cartoon.

It amounts to cultural differences. Kissing is seen as much more sexual in Japan, so they don't put it in kids' media. Parents don't even kiss in front of their kids.
 

torterra_4_the_win

Ya want some?
If the Mirror Episode brings us an AmourShipping Hint by mirror ash then there would be also a negative side. That means the real world ash wouldn't have any interests in Serena by this moment.

I've been thinking about that situation, and it's made me think. What if M Ash does have a crush on M Serena, and he tells Ash about it, which makes him start to think. The episode, even though him and Serena are separated, could still have large hints. Imagine if at the end of the episode, M Ash realises he doesn't actually like M Serena anymore, but real Ash has thought about it and now looks at Serena differently? It shows the mirror effects and has character development. Wish this would happen.

And loving the references to ATLA, greatest cartoon ever.
 
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