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Amourshipping (Ash x Serena) General Discussion (SPOILER WARNING)

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Blood Red

【推しの子】
I don't think Satoshi even tried to forget either Eureka or Citron just because Serena is in danger. Citron and Eureka are his friends to him just as much as Serena is a friend to him. The beauty of this is (personally) I feel that he, the "dense idiot" as others would claim, held Serena, his very own current female companion in high regard everytime he stresses out whenever she's in danger. I feel that the writers often set that up. Whether you guys think this as a hint is debatable it surely is up to you, but I just prefer to celebrate the smallest things such as those because I feel not only that Satoshi's maturity is emphasized here, but I'm also really glad he was able to do something like this on a different level for his female companion.

Some people say that it'll be really hard for the new female companion/s of the upcoming gen/s to even ship her with Satoshi and outmatch Serena's credential in terms of shippping, not that I disagree but I also feel personally that we may not see this kind of trait that Satoshi has right now IF he and Serena were about to get seperated at the end of XY.

NOTE: I posted "if" because I saw a lot of debates pages back if Serena will be able to stay or not at gen. 7

Nah, he's never forgotten about them. It's just that the fact that he uses the term Serena-tachi whenever there's a separation or when he's talking about Serena and one other, which I think indicates some special concern for her, which indirectly leads to my 'hidden feelings' theory. Not much, but shippers overanalyze everything :p

Well, I think any other character after Serena will be hard to connect with at all. You can hardly connect with a character when you know that there's no chance for then to stick around for more than 3 years.
 
If that's the case, I've already thought a possible scenario while staying true to the amnesia Satoshi had back then. It's possible he walked her to her mother after the incident, and that's when they last met. After that, Serena was too shy to even go near him, and so she hides wherever, and muttering things like *He's cute* or something like that, while being watched by a potential upcoming character that is going to be introduced during the course of XY.

........So....You're basically saying she's a stalker......

Some people say that it'll be really hard for the new female companion/s of the upcoming gen/s to even ship her with Satoshi and outmatch Serena's credential in terms of shippping, not that I disagree but I also feel personally that we may not see this kind of trait that Satoshi has right now IF he and Serena were about to get seperated at the end of XY.

NOTE: I posted "if" because I saw a lot of debates pages back if Serena will be able to stay or not at gen. 7
IF they are really serious about amourshipping becoming canon, The only thing they needed to do is to end Satoshi's journey before Gen. 7 happens. No way I can see Serena and Satoshi travelling together with a romantic relationship.
 
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matthew11

8000 MMR
........So....You're basically saying she's a stalker......

.... Not exactly. I mean, she could've accidentally encountered him back then after the incident, and then she hides before Satoshi had spotted her...

But anyways, looks like someone hates me right now... I really miss Spectro and Sheepy... It's getting awkward here on the thread, at least to me...
 
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--VIRGO--

Well-Known Member
Remember how he was first looking for Nyoromo? Probably, after he escorted Serena back to the camp, he left her and continued on to find the Pokemon again. I highly doubt that they encountered Shigeru back then. If that happened, Serena would have been asking about him. The handkerchief originally belongs to Satoshi, the moment he saw it, he'd probably knew about the girl he helped before.

Well. He was looking after Poliwag. But handkerchief triggered his mind and he specifically described Serena as a "straw-hat girl". So I guess, she had to make a good impression on him. About Gary. Serena didn't ask about Gary, because he isn't nearly as important to her, as Ash. Look at XY005, how much she was excited to see him. Maybe she remembers Gary too. But her main focus was Ash. She's had crush on him from the very first moment of their reunion.
 

Blood Red

【推しの子】
Reading the few earlier pages somehow reminds me of last year's end-of-year fake rumors.

Man, I wish I could skipped right to Meecle episode. :p

Also, I think this month's Pokemon Fan might put a focus on the date episode beside other upcoming episodes like R-dan's Maaiika one.

PS. Blame my non-talker nature and loads of works for being less active here. *sigh*

Welcome back! Don't worry about not being active, about half of us shouldn't be here right now :p

Which rumors are you talking about?

.... Not exactly. I mean, she could've accidentally encountered him back then after the incident, and then she hides before Satoshi had spotted her...

Don't make excuses, we already know you secretly want to see Yanderena :p
 

matthew11

8000 MMR
Don't make excuses, we already know you secretly want to see Yanderena :p

...And why would I, if I may ask? Assumptions everywhere... *sigh*

Anyway, looks like I'm still being hated right now... The level of awkwardness I'm getting here is extremely high... I'm going to stay away from this thread until then...
 

PokeHero96

Well-Known Member
But anyways, looks like someone hates me right now... I really miss Spectro and Sheepy... It's getting awkward here on the thread, at least to me...

Yeah, they are really fun people to talk too haha! but everybody else here is really friendly as well. We have our differences that lead to some conflict, but it's still a fun thread to be on. Hehe, I know I'm not on here as much as I used to be, but I do catch up with the thread every day, and the convocations are really great to read! We have people posting really good FanFics, others posting amazing art works, and plus the people who think of good questions to keep the thread going. Oh, and the people who keep us updated and post pictures to show us hints that come from new episodes. And finally, theres the people who keep the comedy in this thread haha! Over all, it's a really nice thread to be apart of, and I honestly think that we're lucky to have a thread that rearly has any fights, only on the odd occasion or two.
 
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Blood Red

【推しの子】
...And why would I, if I may ask? Assumptions everywhere... *sigh*

Anyway, looks like I'm still being hated right now... The level of awkwardness I'm getting here is extremely high... I'm going to stay away from this thread until then...

I'm just messing around man, don't take it so hard :p

Anyway, the Christmas episode will focus on Clemont and James, both being the only characters to escape Calamanero. Maybe we'll get another throwaway 'moment' in this one :D
 

Blood Red

【推しの子】
All I remember is there was a fake rumor about Palace episode at that time.

Oh, that one. Yeah, we were really hyped up about it, then the episode came and it was bone dry :p

Yeah, they are really fun people to talk too haha! but everybody else here is really friendly as well. We have our differences that lead to some conflict, but it's still a fun thread to be on. Hehe, I know I'm not on here as much as I used to be, but I do catch up with the thread every day, and the convocations are really great to read! We have people posting really good FanFics, others posting amazing art works, and plus the people who think of good questions to keep the thread going. Oh, and the people who keep us updated and post pictures to show us hints that come from new episodes. And finally, theres the people who keep the comedy in this thread haha! Over all, it's a really nice thread to be apart of, and I honestly think that we're lucky to have a thread that rearly has any fights, only on the odd occasion or two.

Even the fights are entertaining, since they bring some new points to the table. Honestly, I kinda prefer the way the thread is now than the way it used to be previously. Not that it was bad or anything, it's just that I enjoy the discussions here more than I did before :D
 
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Sheepy Lamby

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.... Not exactly. I mean, she could've accidentally encountered him back then after the incident, and then she hides before Satoshi had spotted her...

But anyways, looks like someone hates me right now... I really miss Spectro and Sheepy... It's getting awkward here on the thread, at least to me...

Yeah, they are really fun people to talk too haha! but everybody else here is really friendly as well. We have our differences that lead to some conflict, but it's still a fun thread to be on. Hehe, I know I'm not on here as much as I used to be, but I do catch up with the thread every day, and the convocations are really great to read! We have people posting really good FanFics, others posting amazing art works, and plus the people who think of good questions to keep the thread going. Oh, and the people who keep us updated and post pictures to show us hints that come from new episodes. And finally, theres the people who keep the comedy in this thread haha! Over all, it's a really nice thread to be apart of, and I honestly think that we're lucky to have a thread that rearly has any fights, only on the odd occasion or two.

*a wild Mareep appears*
Hey there guys! How are you?
matthew11 why do you say this thread is getting awkward?
IMO this thread is getting busier and probably reading so many posts is making us excited (especially after the new episodes titles)
We all have different feelings (form scepticism to excitement) about what will happen to the "couple" between now and February! :D
PokeHero96's good to see read you again too. Studies and work are keeping us busy, right?
Just some silly humour to make this Sunday more enjoyable:
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/...nHn9WeXKCOzA7hEV2tzL7WtEEZi2UA5QnsBmgijOZwF5w
That's Serena... right?
 

Blood Red

【推しの子】
*a wild Mareep appears*
Hey there guys! How are you?
matthew11 why do you say this thread is getting awkward?
IMO this thread is getting busier and probably reading so many posts is making us excited (especially after the new episodes titles)
We all have different feelings (form scepticism to excitement) about what will happen to the "couple" between now and February! :D
PokeHero96's good to see read again you too. Studies and work are keeping us busy, right?
Just some silly humour to make this Sunday more enjoyable:
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/...nHn9WeXKCOzA7hEV2tzL7WtEEZi2UA5QnsBmgijOZwF5w
That's Serena... right?

Thanks for the laugh :p

I think matthew11 just misses the old crowd and I may have annoyed him a lot bit.
 

PokeHero96

Well-Known Member
*a wild Mareep appears*
Hey there guys! How are you?
matthew11 why do you say this thread is getting awkward?
IMO this thread is getting busier and probably reading so many posts is making us excited (especially after the new episodes titles)
We all have different feelings (form scepticism to excitement) about what will happen to the "couple" between now and February! :D
PokeHero96's good to see read you again too. Studies and work are keeping us busy, right?
Just some silly humour to make this Sunday more enjoyable:
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/...nHn9WeXKCOzA7hEV2tzL7WtEEZi2UA5QnsBmgijOZwF5w
That's Serena... right?

Haha! Welcome back :D Yep, studies are craaaaaaazy!
Thanks for the picture by the way, I saw that ages ago, very funny haha!
And yes, did you know ?? she has a twin brother, I think his name is Paul ?? apparently they look identical, its all so clear now.. kind of, not really.. I so killed that joke phaha
 
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Sheepy Lamby

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Haha! Welcome back :D Yep, studies are craaaaaaazy!
Thanks for the picture by the way, I saw that ages ago, very funny haha!
And yes, did you know ?? she has a twin brother, I think his name is Paul ?? apparently they look identical, its all so clear now.. kind of, not really.. I so killed that joke phaha

Thank you dudette! Glad you liked it despite being repeated.
eh... I pass...I like his hair but his face is too much according to my humble point of view *turns green* :p

Thanks for the laugh :p

I think matthew11 just misses the old crowd and I may have annoyed him a lot bit.

No problem dude! Laughs are always good.
Are you calling me old?? *fixes his dentures*
You are not annoying dude. just a little just kidding!
Talking about fights... I wonder if the "sweethearts" will have some kind of "little fight" when Grace shows up (I bet you she will make some kind of silly comment to annoy Serena... mother's are experts doing it, lol)
 

Blood Red

【推しの子】
No problem dude! Laughs are always good. :D
Are you calling me old?? *fixes his dentures*
You are not annoying dude. just a little just kidding!
Talking about fights... I wonder if the "sweethearts" will have some kind of "little fight" when Grace shows up (I bet you she will make some kind of silly comment to annoy Serena... mother's are experts doing it, lol)

I got confused because of the lack of a quote, but I saw the word 'annoying' and thought 'hey, this is probably for me!' :p

I know, they're the best way to ease the tension. I honestly think we take things too seriously around here sometimes :p

I'm calling all of us old *adjusts badass walking cane*

Well, there will be some sort of skirmish between Grace and Serena, so I think there's a chance of Ash getting caught in the crossfire :p
 

Sheepy Lamby

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I got confused because of the lack of a quote, but I saw the word 'annoying' and thought 'hey, this is probably for me!' :p

I know, they're the best way to ease the tension. I honestly think we take things too seriously around here sometimes :p

I'm calling all of us old *adjusts badass walking cane*

Well, there will be some sort of skirmish between Grace and Serena, so I think there's a chance of Ash getting caught in the crossfire :p

haha! :D *dips cookies in a cup of tea*
You know I'm just kidding.
Let's blame the producers for all this hype! I hope they don't troll us anymore with fake episode titles (will they??)
Even if "Captain Oblivious" Ash doesn't get the idea behind a possible Grace-Serena fight, we can expect Serena blushing and acting silly in front of Ash.
 

Blood Red

【推しの子】
haha! :D *dips cookies in a cup of tea*
You know I'm just kidding.
Let's blame the producers for all this hype! I hope they don't troll us anymore with fake episode titles (will they??)
Even if "Captain Oblivious" Ash doesn't get the idea behind a possible Grace-Serena fight, we can expect Serena blushing and acting silly in front of Ash.

'Cookies'? What are you, a ruffian? *savors crumpets with Earl Gray*

Yeah, I know :p

That's what we're doing, and what we always do :D

Yeah, that's a given. After all, this is Serena we're talking about, she's better at spilling spaghetti than the best shoujo heroines :p
 

CMDShift4

Anonymous
Hi Obscurities! Welcome back! Even though I'm not active nowadays either!



IF they are really serious about amourshipping becoming canon, The only thing they needed to do is to end Satoshi's journey before Gen. 7 happens. No way I can see Serena and Satoshi travelling together with a romantic relationship.

I won't bet it to be 100% canon from both sides either. This is an anime where things related to romance are portrayed in a subtle way. I've read opinions of our fellow Amourshippers on how Serena can stay and I think they provided a lot of interesting ideas on how it would turn up. To be honest, I'm with asuna07neros. I'm still not confident to believe that Serena would join Satoshi at gen 7 or Satoshi would end it here in Kalos.

NO! I'm not trying to spark another debate or trying to be negative or bring people's hopes down (not my fault yo!). I just happen to be not convinced at all because I feel it is still more likely they'd part ways at the end of gen 6 to give way to gen. 7. I think Sato would still likely to continue his journey while the good ending for this is Serena would still continue to have feelings for him and wait whatever his decision will be one day and promise they meet again with them assuring one another that their adventures are worth it. I think that's the safest way for them to part ways without purposely hurting the feelings of the fanbase. That's just me fellas!

Still, I don't mind seeing Serena still hanging at gen.7. Why not, right? I just won't bet on it guys.

This is why I want gen 7 for the pokemon anime staff to bravely try giving Satoshi with just 1 male companion and 0 female companion that time. The potential comedy with just two boys without a heroine would be endless. I would also make his fellow companion who's career or goal doesn't involve battles and gen.7 league. How bout that?! :D



Nah, he's never forgotten about them. It's just that the fact that he uses the term Serena-tachi whenever there's a separation or when he's talking about Serena and one other, which I think indicates some special concern for her, which indirectly leads to my 'hidden feelings' theory. Not much, but shippers overanalyze everything :p

Well, I think any other character after Serena will be hard to connect with at all. You can hardly connect with a character when you know that there's no chance for then to stick around for more than 3 years.

I also chuckle when some of you got worried fast sometimes. Haha.

Anyway, I support that "hidden feelings" theory of yours. I AM really convince that he's subconsciously attracted to her. I'm not implying that he loves her right away (LOL!). At this point to be honest, I don't think he aims to experience romance as he is very occupied adventuring and fulfilling his goal. Although, I really bet he somehow thinks Serena is "really something" compared to the previous companions he had and the ones he had right now which is Citron and Eureka. I feel that Satoshi somewhat became interested in her given the little one time history he had with the "strawhat girl". I believe he felt nice knowing a person who would come over him just to say politely say "hello" and gave him a little something as a testament to them meeting years ago. Things made him felt nicer knowing a person he once met long ago walked to him and boldly acknowledges his virtues. Those virtues are his courage and selflessnes. He knows from his heart that somehow she - is a fan and it must've been relieving to meet one. :)

Being acknowledged is always nice. Virtues that can be done and shown by an individual are priceless - and being acknowledge by it are priceless as well. I believe it is one of the most beautiful mutual understanding between individuals can have. He felt another soul instantly touched his inner peace after his defeat that day. I can illustrate this in my mind as a portrait where a person with all the weight in his shoulders got touched by a serene guardian spirit whom both just met each other once again.

A guide to "never give up" and that's what exactly happened next episode.

So you see, this is why Satoshi politely convinced a girl, a stranger for the first time to experience having to travel with him. After all, she really is "something". For me, it's still one of the best introduction for a companion in the pokemon anime.
 
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Takeshino

武 志信
haha! :D *dips cookies in a cup of tea*
You know I'm just kidding.
Let's blame the producers for all this hype! I hope they don't troll us anymore with fake episode titles (will they??)
Even if "Captain Oblivious" Ash doesn't get the idea behind a possible Grace-Serena fight, we can expect Serena blushing and acting silly in front of Ash.

By the way, it feels like I'm the youngest here, only 14 :), but to make up for that i'm probably one of the taller ones; at 6 feet :) (I usually look down to my elders ;))
In this case, what would be grace's reaction to serena's Spaghetti?
 

--VIRGO--

Well-Known Member
Hi Obscurities! Welcome back! Even though I'm not active nowadays either!





I won't bet it to be 100% canon from both sides either. This is an anime where things related to romance are portrayed in a subtle way. I've read opinions of our fellow Amourshippers on how Serena can stay and I think they provided a lot of interesting ideas on how it would turn up. To be honest, I'm with asuna07neros. I'm still not confident to believe that Serena would join Satoshi at gen 7 or Satoshi would end it here in Kalos.

NO! I'm not trying to spark another debate or trying to be negative or bring people's hopes down (not my fault yo!). I just happen to be not convinced at all because I feel it is still more likely they'd part ways at the end of gen 6 to give way to gen. 7. I think Sato would still likely to continue his journey while the good ending for this is Serena would still continue to have feelings for him and wait whatever his decision will be one day and promise they meet again with them assuring one another that their adventures are worth it. I think that's the safest way for them to part ways without purposely hurting the feelings of the fanbase. That's just me fellas!

Still, I don't mind seeing Serena still hanging at gen.7. Why not, right? I just won't bet on it guys.

This is why I want gen 7 for the pokemon anime staff to bravely try giving Satoshi with just 1 male companion and 0 female companion that time. The potential comedy with just two boys without a heroine would be endless. I would also make his fellow companion who's career or goal doesn't involve battles and gen.7 league. How bout that?! :D





I also chuckle when some of you got worried fast sometimes. Haha.

Anyway, I support that "hidden feelings" theory of yours. I AM really convince that he's subconsciously attracted to her. I'm not implying that he loves her right away (LOL!). At this point to be honest, I don't think he aims to experience romance as he is very occupied adventuring and fulfilling his goal. Although, I really bet he somehow thinks Serena is "really something" compared to the previous companions he had and the ones he had right now which is Citron and Eureka. I feel that Satoshi somewhat became interested in her given the little one time history he had with the "strawhat girl". I believe he felt nice knowing a person who would come over him just to say politely say "hello" and gave him a little something as a testament to them meeting years ago. Things made him felt nicer knowing a person he once met long ago walked to him and boldly acknowledges his virtues. Those virtues are his courage and selflessnes. He knows from his heart that somehow she - is a fan and it must've been relieving to meet one. :)

Being acknowledged is always nice. Virtues that can be done and shown by an individual are priceless - and being acknowledge by it are priceless as well. I believe it is one of the most beautiful mutual understanding between individuals can have. He felt another soul instantly touched his inner peace after his defeat that day. I can illustrate this in my mind as a portrait where a person with all the weight in his shoulders got touched by a serene guardian spirit whom both just met each other once again.

A guide to "never give up" and that's what exactly happened next episode.
So you see, this is why Satoshi politely convinced a girl, a stranger for the first time to experience having to travel with him. After all, she really is "something"[ /I]. For me, it's still one of the best introduction for a companion in the pokemon anime.


Assuming there will be a generation 7 I think Serena traveling with Ash during that gen. is more possible than ever. XY is a way to rehabilitate Pokemon anime and it's doing great for now. Gettin rid of Seerena would be like killing hen, which lays golden eggs.
 
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