Amourshipping General Discussion - V.2 *Spoiler Warning*

[Ross451]

Bonnie:SERENA, YOUR A KEEPER!
Serena: WAHHHHHT!!????
Clemont: Bonnie! I told you a million times! STOP DOING THAT!
Bonnie: No! Not you Clemont! Serena is too good for you. I WAS TALKING ABOUT ASH!
*Serena goes more red than an angry Darmanitan while doing her surprised face*
Ash:*Oblivious ability activate* UHHH? What do you mean bonnie?
Bonnie: Well a few weeks ag........
* Serena steals Clemont's backpack and activates the aipom arm while using extreme speed*
Serena: NOW I KNOW HOW CLEMONT FEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLS!

Bonnie: I hope you'll think about it! =P

Out of everything said on this, I think this would probably a Scenario waiting to happen but it'll be funny if that one actually works for Ash and Serena xD

 

[ashsfuture]

Ok so what's left for the XY saga

.Ash has two badges he still needs to win-two more gym leaders
.Serena has to win two more princess keys
.mega evolution act 4(might be the final act)
.Ash and Alan meeting(pretty much confirmed with opening)
.Ash finding out about mega Charizard
.hopefully team flare has an impact in Ash's story(very likely that's going to happen) thanks to Alan
.Ash probably obtaining a mega ring/key stone
.Tripokalon Master Class
.Kalos League

Also: Amourshipping

So with all that, this is a lot that has to be handled very well and at the same time lead to some major character development for Ash and Serena so as in terms for Amourshipping we still need the development to come slowly and at a steady pace like it's been so far throughout the XY saga coming into 80 episodes, and the biggest thing we've got now for Amourshipping is that Bonnie is aware of Serena's feelings for Ash(still want the subs, just to be safe) and that is the one thing that Amourshippers have been so hyped about! and that's a good thing, but that doesn't mean that Bonnie going to be constantly trying to do something to help Serena with her love for Ash. Though knowing Bonnie and how close she and Serena are, I don't think she'll tease Serena about it(I know she wouldn't), but I think she would just be happy for Serena. Let's just hope that Bonnie doesn't do the marriage gag,(if she does) but this time with her asking Ash to take care of Serena (that would be so funny!)

Question:

Do you think Bonnie would tell Serena she knows about her feelings for Ash, but won't tease her about it instead promises that this will be their secret and she'll help her in anyway she can?

 

[Ross451]

Question:

Do you think Bonnie would tell Serena she knows about her feelings for Ash, but won't tease her about it instead promises that this will be their secret and she'll help her in anyway she can?

Lets be honest Bonnie is still going to tease Serena about it but I think she won't make it as obvious, but yeah I think this will be a secret but sooner or later (hopefully) Clemont will find out then it's pretty much just straight support but i don't think anything serious will happen till Serena and Ash are done with their competitions because they won't be as busy and will be able to focus more on each other in my opinion.

 

[JigglyScrub]

Do you think Bonnie would tell Serena she knows about her feelings for Ash, but won't tease her about it instead promises that this will be their secret and she'll help her in anyway she can?

I think Bonnie will most likely play the role of silent matchmaker for now. She might tell Serena sometime in the future but for now, I think she'll keep it a secret from everyone.

 

[Lorde]

To be fair if Serena did tell Ash how she felt about him I guess he'd be pretty clueless at first, but i think if they were to travel more I think he'd start getting a point and start acting upon it.

I don't think she'd confess her feelings and simply wait for Ash to reciprocate them. If Serena ever confesses, I actually think Ash would understand what she means since even he's not that dense, but he'd either friend-zone her or profess his love as well right then and there in my view instead of taking his time to think things through. I'd personally rather have it short and sweet.

 

[Ross451]

I don't think she'd confess her feelings and simply wait for Ash to reciprocate them. If Serena ever confesses, I actually think Ash would understand what she means since even he's not that dense, but he'd either friend-zone her or profess his love as well right then and there in my view instead of taking his time to think things through. I'd personally rather have it short and sweet.

To be fair I think is one of those guy that has to be told by multiple people before actually getting the point that's what i get off him imo, but having him giving a quick response would be such cute OMG. However, if she were to confess i think it'll be something that just slips out of her mouth like she did it unintentionally like she almost did at the Pokemon camp. but yeah she doesn't seem like the waiting type but i think Bonnie and Clemont would help at that situation so it doesn't get dragged on too long.

 

[Meowth City]

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[Citronic Gear On]

So, there's not much I can add to the discussion about XY080 since people have already picked it apart. I'll just say that I really liked the episode, and the Amour moments were one of many reasons why. Seeing Bonnie catch on to Serena's feelings for Ash and Millefeui push Serena's buttons over and over again wasn't just interesting, but also really funny. I'm curious to see whether Millefeui is actually serious about "competing" for Ash or if she's just teasing Serena. I'm also curious to see whether Bonnie noticing Serena's feelings and calling Ash and Clemont dense was meant just for laughs or because the writers plan to have Bonnie play a role in Amour's development later on. It's also nice that the episode reinforced how Amour affects Serena's goal (i.e., Ash inspiring her to do her best and never give up). At some point I wonder if it might get a bit repetitive to have Serena reciting "Don't give up 'til the end," but for now I still think it's cute.

As others have already said regarding XY083, it's best not to take that thumbnail of Ash and Serena too seriously, especially since we don't even have summaries yet. The scene being depicted could be as simple as the gang getting in trouble and the camera briefly (say, for two or three seconds) panning to Ash and Serena like that. If it were to end up being more than that, it would be a pleasant surprise.

By the way, this isn't a big deal or anything, but in the most recent set of 100 questions for the ongoing Hoopa movie online quiz, there's a question that asks: "What is the name of the town where Satoshi and Serena first met?"

Spoiler: The answer

The answer, of course, is Pallet Town.

 

[chicorita3]

Actually, if you look closely, that's Ash's hand. He's holding Serena on both shoulders
larger picture for referrence:
[img139]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI5yX7iUcAAu1LM.jpg[/img139]

But ash's glove looks dark blue and the thing on the other side looks light blue with a bit of dark blue (like the handkerchief0 and it barely looks like a hand.
But like Ikcatcher said we have to wait

 

[Ross451]

So, there's not much I can add to the discussion about XY080 since people have already picked it apart. I'll just say that I really liked the episode, and the Amour moments were one of many reasons why. Seeing Bonnie catch on to Serena's feelings for Ash and Millefeui push Serena's buttons over and over again wasn't just interesting, but also really funny. I'm curious to see whether Millefeui is actually serious about "competing" for Ash or if she's just teasing Serena. I'm also curious to see whether Bonnie noticing Serena's feelings and calling Ash and Clemont dense was meant just for laughs or because the writers plan to have Bonnie play a role in Amour's development later on. It's also nice that the episode reinforced how Amour affects Serena's goal (i.e., Ash inspiring her to do her best and never give up). At some point I wonder if it might get a bit repetitive to have Serena reciting "Don't give up 'til the end," but for now I still think it's cute.
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If Millefeui is there to tease Serena about Ash then I feel like she should be in more scenes if the ship were to push forward just because she could just motivate Serena more to tell Ash how she feels, however i feel like Millefeui would be putting Serena under more pressure which for me shouldn't happen, i feel like this ship should seem natural if it were to be successful. Also you're right about Ash inspiring Serena more she seems to look up to Ash more like remembering everything he had said in the past that had helped her through tough times, proving that he has made a big impact on her and what could mean that she will gain more feelings over time.

I wouldn't say the whole Bonnie thing hasn't been sucked dry... Yet. Like we still need confirmation about whether or not she knows about Serena, like yeah there's some evidence that can support the fact like she's been around enough that Serena gets awkward in curtain situations or she'll start to worry more about Ash in some points, but to more Bonnie is still young yes she's aware of what love is but something tells me that she doesn't know how to spot different types of body language that may indicate that person may like the other. Basically I think that maybe Bonnie is going to start keeping an closer eye on Serena just till she gets her suspicions confirmed.

 

[Trublsmbob]

So, there's not much I can add to the discussion about XY080 since people have already picked it apart. I'll just say that I really liked the episode, and the Amour moments were one of many reasons why. Seeing Bonnie catch on to Serena's feelings for Ash and Millefeui push Serena's buttons over and over again wasn't just interesting, but also really funny. I'm curious to see whether Millefeui is actually serious about "competing" for Ash or if she's just teasing Serena. I'm also curious to see whether Bonnie noticing Serena's feelings and calling Ash and Clemont dense was meant just for laughs or because the writers plan to have Bonnie play a role in Amour's development later on. It's also nice that the episode reinforced how Amour affects Serena's goal (i.e., Ash inspiring her to do her best and never give up). At some point I wonder if it might get a bit repetitive to have Serena reciting "Don't give up 'til the end," but for now I still think it's cute.

As others have already said regarding XY083, it's best not to take that thumbnail of Ash and Serena too seriously, especially since we don't even have summaries yet. The scene being depicted could be as simple as the gang getting in trouble and the camera briefly (say, for two or three seconds) panning to Ash and Serena like that. If it were to end up being more than that, it would be a pleasant surprise.

By the way, this isn't a big deal or anything, but in the most recent set of 100 questions for the ongoing Hoopa movie online quiz, there's a question that asks: "What is the name of the town where Satoshi and Serena first met?"

Spoiler: The answer

The answer, of course, is Pallet Town.

Are you suggesting a possible reason for that being on the quiz? Like a reminder to look for Amourshipping hints in the new movie? And your right about episode 83, lets not get hyped yet. That could just be Ash picking Serena up after she tripped.

But ash's glove looks dark blue and the thing on the other side looks light blue with a bit of dark blue (like the handkerchief0 and it barely looks like a hand.

The white part could be snow. In the pic we must not be seeing Ash's entire hand. Also, why the heck would the handkercheif be out in the first place?

 

[Citronic Gear On]

Are you suggesting a possible reason for that being on the quiz? Like a reminder to look for Amourshipping hints in the new movie? And your right about episode 83, lets not get hyped yet. That could just be Ash picking Serena up after she tripped.

I just thought it was nice that they decided to have a question on it, that's all. It doesn't mean anything more than that. The quiz has covered a wide range of aspects of the show, the franchise and past movies, so the questions are not necessarily meant to serve as clues of what will be in the Hoopa movie itself.

That being said, the Hoopa manga does have a scene that has a little tinge of Amour in it. At the beginning, Ash and the others are shown to be eating (and really enjoying) some donutlike Poffles that Serena has baked. Serena is seen to be looking on happily, and she's especially happy that Ash is enjoying them. When Ash says he wants more, Serena suggests they go to Desser City, which is famous both for its donuts and for a certain mythical Pokemon. Adamant/Dephender has a summary of the scene here: http://www.serebiiforums.com/showth...n-Scouting-Report-12)&p=17667506#post17667506

 

[chicorita3]

The white part could be snow. In the pic we must not be seeing Ash's entire hand. Also, why the heck would the handkercheif be out in the first place?

oh wow I must be blind or something because that didn't look like snow to me when I saw it,until you pointed it out, lol, sorry about that. And yeah I guess we can't overanalyze one single shoot from the entire episode, I just hope we get a summary soon so that we get a better understanding of the plot.

 

[platane_hakase]

Question:

Do you think Bonnie would tell Serena she knows about her feelings for Ash, but won't tease her about it instead promises that this will be their secret and she'll help her in anyway she can?

It is a possibility.

Another one is that, at least initially, Eureka keep the fact that she knows about AS secret even for Serena. Just enjoying Satoshi's obliviousness.

I disagree with qualifying Eureka as 'time bomb' or 'loose cannon'. She hasn't told Citron about it when noted that he is as oblivious as Satoshi about Serena's feelings, so it seems unlikely to me that she could inadvertly reveal the AS.

#AmourWins

 

[Trublsmbob]

oh wow I must be blind or something because that didn't look like snow to me when I saw it,until you pointed it out, lol, sorry about that. And yeah I guess we can't overanalyze one single shoot from the entire episode, I just hope we get a summary soon so that we get a better understanding of the plot.

Don't worry about it, that happens to me all the time. XD
Besides, overanalyzing things is what this place is for right?

I just thought it was nice that they decided to have a question on it, that's all. It doesn't mean anything more than that. The quiz has covered a wide range of aspects of the show, the franchise and past movies, so the questions are not necessarily meant to serve as clues of what will be in the Hoopa movie itself.

Ah. Well, I suppose we can still get hints in the movie.
#AmourWins (Hopefully, in this case)

 

[JigglyScrub]

This might sound dumb but does anyone notice the parallels between the XY series and Zoey 101? I mean Zoey had no real sense of romance and was as oblivious to Chase liking her as Ash is right now towards Serena. Both of Chase's friends knew he was in love with Zoey and now Bonnie knows that Serena loves Ash. Heck both shows have science nerds whose inventions always fail and blow up. Hopefully the end result to Amourshipping is similar to that of Zoey and Chase.

Sorry for this idiotic post but I felt I had to make it.

 

[Geodude]

But ash's glove looks dark blue and the thing on the other side looks light blue with a bit of dark blue (like the handkerchief0 and it barely looks like a hand.
But like Ikcatcher said we have to wait

The little blue part is just the edge of his hand/finger, and the white part is the snow on the rocks in the background. Seems pretty clear to me. I have no idea why people are freaking out over the handkerchief that's clearly not there, it doesn't really make sense for it to be there in the first place.

Anyway, I just had the funniest thought: Now that Bonnie seems to know about Amour, can you guys see her trying to find sneaky ways to get Ash and Serena alone together and then spying on them? XD Cause I sure can.

 

[ashsfuture]

I have two topics I think might be interesting to discuss

Questions:

Would you rather see Serena in the master class for the tripokalon before the kalos league or after the league?

and

The way the pacing has been going for Serena's development in the tripokalon's basically 20 episodes since the first tripokalon(episode 60), do you think they should have Serena enter tripokalons a lot sooner or just keep the pacing for the tripokalons where it's at?

This would give Serena more time to develop her team and have more time to come up with new ways to do her performances!

 

[Ikcatcher]

I have two topics I think might be interesting to discuss

Questions:

Would you rather see Serena in the master class for the tripokalon before the kalos league or after the league?

and

The way the pacing has been going for Serena's development in the tripokalon's basically 20 episodes since the first tripokalon(episode 60), do you think they should have Serena enter tripokalons a lot sooner or just keep the pacing for the tripokalons where it's at?

This would give Serena more time to develop her team and have more time to come up with new ways to do her performances!

For your first question I want to see maybe during the league. It would be interesting if the Master Class was immediately after a league match with Ash.

Second question, now that's she's won a Key I think we won't be seeing a Tripokalon anytime soon. So I say the pacing is good where it is

 

[amour4ever]

I know I'm late, but, Bonnie knows!!!

Do you think Miette will come back and give us another one of these episodes?

Totally, and I can't wait.

How will Bonnie affect Amourshipping now that she knows?

At first I was so giddy knowing that Bonnie knows, and I still am, but the thing is, she's known for however long now, and hasn't done anything to affect Amour, so why would she now? That said, I'm hopeful that for whatever reason, she suddenly does begin having an affect. How exactly who knows. Dragging Clemont off for random reasons to leave them alone together perhaps, or maybe even subtly trying to crack Ash's denseness by pointing out positive things about Serena to elicit a certain response.

How would you rate today's episode?

note: this also makes me wonder whats going to happen the next time Miette shows up/What do you think could happen?

10/10! Great episode all around.

I could see Miette start to do more than just tease Serena to get under her skin, like maybe act flirty-ish towards Ash. I'm still on the fence as to whether I believe Miette is actually interested in Ash, or if she is just for whatever reason, trying to get Serena to confess.

Do you guys consider this episode a turning point for amour? Do you guys think it will increase the amount of amour hints in upcoming episodes?

I don't feel personally that it is a turning point, but knowing that Bonnie knows and could get involved, could mean the potential for hints to increase.

What do you think Serena needs to do to get Ash to love her?
I know, it's a fluffy topic. I couldn't resist. XD
Anyway, here's my answer:
So basically, Serena needs to be more obvious, and that's it. She doesn't need to do anything else IMO.

I completely agree with you.

So now that we know Eureka is knowledgeable of the Amour, do you think she understands how far to "take it/ship it"? Will she take matters too far and really f--- it up(unintentionally)?

I don't see her screwing it up whatsoever. If she ends up having any affect, I truly believe it will be positive. I could see her keeping it to herself and secretly trying to play cupid, or eventually letting Serena know that she knows, but won't say a word to Ash, and maybe even encourage Serena to confess.

If you were giving the chances to see what all the future XY episode are going to be, script and everything, all the way until the end of the series and also the fate of Amourshipping, but you can't breathe a word about it until they are properly announced. Would you take that chance?

I was seriously considering asking virtually this exact same question!

Initially I thought I'd jump at the chance to know how it all goes down for Amour, in case it doesn't end the way I want it to, I could save myself the time and heartache now. The more I think about it though, I feel that possibly a greater part of me wants to just wait and see how it all goes down with everyone else. If I were to find out the future of our ship, and it did end the way I want it to, it'd only make me more excited to watch. Keeping it a secret wouldn't be a problem.