Hypothesis : Misinterpretation is a *****
Meh, I think I'm pull back the reins on the whole "love rival" on this one. For this scenario to be plausible several things have to happen.
#1 Tierno's crush has to be legit- Based on the fact that Shauna said Tierno "gets crushes easy" tells me we might be looking at the latest reincarnation of Brock when it comes to girls. For all we know Serena was just the "flavor of the month" on that day for Tierno.
#2 Serena's feelings towards Tierno- this is pretty huge for me personally, for me to even consider Tierno a "love rival" Serena would have to give me even the smallest droplet they could be a thing. No offense to Tierno, but no I don't see that happening coming from Serena, she only has one man in her sights right now. I think Clemont has a better shot with Serena than Tierno, and Clemont's chance with Serena is about the same as is his chances of getting Bonnie to stop trying to find him a wife..
#3 Ash- frankly this might be the biggest one for obvious reasons. For this "love rival" thing to work, points #1 and #2 have to be happening for #3 to even come into play. Since they aren't this point is moot, but for the sake argument I'll pretend they did. Ash would have to have some understanding that he has romantic feelings for Serena for "love rival Tierno" to happen. I think we all agree Ash is starting to develop feelings for Serena, but at this point hasn't figured them out to be romantic yet.
In the end I agree with all that Tierno would make a great rival for Ash, its a friendly rival who under normal circumstances Ash would have no trouble defeating, but because of Tierno's unorthodox battle style, he gives Ash problems. Just frankly can't see him as a "love rival"
While the points you raise are good , depending on what my original points were , u have mentioned some moot and futile points (with all due respect). HOW?? Well read on chaps..
1) This point of yours is correct , however , as i said before , we are unaware of the nature of his crush as of now and Shauna's words are not enough to go by. His next appearance should clear things up. And he has a long way to go before he can be even compared to Brock in that sense.
2) Meh , i disagree , for him to be a love rival , it is not essential for Serena to show interest in him , for if he has a crush on serena , that alone ensures him being a love rival. Remember , ash doesnot have romantic feelings for serena YET , however , since she has a huge crush on him , amour is a force to be reckoned with. So , serena need not have feelings for tierno in order for him to be a love rival. Just as it was with miette.
Clemont's chances of being a love rival = -100%
3) Again , i strongly disagree, tierno being a love rival does not require ash to have CONCIOUS feelings for serena . The state he is in as of now is perfect to implement tierno's status as a love rival , for as you said , ash is starting to develop feelings for her and if tierno makes any advancements , ash could subconciously step in and tell him to back off , not knowing why he felt insecure , prompting him to discover and understand why he is feeling this way , and in turn , this being the turning point for amour.
Indeed he makes a great rival for ash , and in more than one way imo.
Also , we ought to remember this is mere speculation and i am only considering a plausible scenario here, one that could really benefit amour.
P.S , all my above points are backed up by the first para of the next quote .
With Tierno, since I mentioned it early on, and I am a little bit more creative at the moment, I think that he could end up helping the ship quite a bit in the episodes he is involved in. I am not sure how they will be able to implement him into many episodes as he is not really a true rival to Ash in the typical sense, so I don't see him in to many helpful situations. But since he did seem to have a crush on Serena when they first met, and Shauna even said so, I think that the writers can play with that a bit as a way of teasing at Ash. Like I said previously, I could see Tierno maybe crushing on Serena and her new look, and Ash, not really even knowing what he is doing, gets slightly jealous and steps in and gets Tierno to back off a bit. I think that this would cause ash to question why exactly he did such a thing and we might start seeing him think about what exactly caused his reaction more and more. It would take a while for him to get to the right conclusion and I think we would need a few more situations where Ash starts showing emotions for him to actually understand his feelings though. Also Serena might take it like Ash wants her to himself and doesn't like other guys hitting on her and she could think that Ash has feelings for her because of his actions. This I believe is what could be so interesting.
I think that their dad could be a problem if he thinks that Serena is Clemont's girlfriend. But it could also end up helping because we could Serena back away towards Ash and maybe she would put a hand on his shoulder or something like that if the dad were to say something and maybe he would realize what is going on as well and back off of the idea.
I really just hope that at some point the other two in the group begin to realize that Serena has feelings for Ash and they begin to try and leave the two alone at times and when one of them gets down in the dumps they will leave it to the other to cheer them up and take care of each other. That is my long term goal at least.
First para , glad u understood what my points were and that para perfectly backs up my points.
What if tierno pulls a bonnie and disapproves the new look?( all love rival theories aside , disapproves it just as a friend ) .Do you think ash would step in like when bonnie made a negative comment. Assuming he does, what would be his reaction . He wont go on patting tierno's head like he did to bonnie , so what will he do??
That would be brilliant if Meyer again teases serena and clemont and serena does what you said. It would definitely be enough for Meyer to understand what is going on and may become a catalyst for amour in the future .
Yeah i agree that sometime in the future the lemon siblings (if they realize serena's crush which is a bit of a stretch) should give them a bit more privacy
Now wait just a minute here. Why are we talking about the possibility that either Clemont or Tierno would possibly steal Serena from Ash? I mean, I'm not excluding the possibility but that would beat the entire foundation that the writers have built between Ash and Serena. Why would they bother to write a backstory between Ash and Serena? Why would they bother have them support each other in achieving their goals? And why bother giving us non-anime materials for hints in the first place if they are just going to have Serena fall for another person? Remember that Serena's feelings isn't just a childish crush, that it is far stronger than that. I think that would be counter-productive of the Anipoke staffs. Now unless either Tierno or Clemont does the same thing for Serena, I see no reason why she would fall for either one of them.
With Tierno. Not much to say about him at the moment. He did fanboy on Serena when he met her but after that, we haven't seen much of his feelings for Serena at the moment.
All in all, while I do not rule out the possibility but as long as Serena has feelings for Ash, I see no reason why she would fall for a new guy, unless of course, Ash friendzones her, which I think at the moment is not possible. And how would he? Serena hasn't even confessed to him yet and we don't know what his reaction would be. Also, don't forget that even Ash has been doing a lot of good things for Serena since the 1st time they have traveled together. Unless Tierno or Clemont, could beat that, I don't see them much of a competition for Serena's heart but as I always say, I'm not going to rule out the possibility.
Classic case of misinterpretation here. Just supports my hypothess even more. Anyways, nobody is saying amour is in danger and serena would fall for tierno , clemont or anyone else for that matter when she already has a passionate crush on ash. I was suggesting the scenario that tierno could (note that i say could) act as the much awaited love rival , with feelings for serena ,and the details of this scenario , i have already mentioned above. It shall act as a push for amour in the right direction , not a threat.
NO NEED TO WORRY.
Actually, I can rule out the possibility. It isn't possible for Clemont or Tierno to get her to fall for them. Now maybe, and this is a very big maybe, they can have Serena drop her love for Ash in favour of some other guy (other than Clemont/Tierno)...but will they do that? I don't see it happening. Frankly speaking, we have come too far for them to turn back on that. They may still go on without making AmourShipping canon, I don't deny that. But will it be in a way that Serena drops her love for Ash in favour of another guy? I strongly doubt it. They have built too much of a foundation between the two now to go in that direction, especially if Serena doesn't even try to let him know her feelings.
And really. Nothing; I reiterate- nothing, at this moment suggests that GeekchicShipping can ever happen, let alone the thing with Tierno. Tierno just fanboyed over Serena and didn't actually have a crush per se.
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The same points i have mentioned above apply here. No threats from a love rival , only benefits , like from Miette.
And actually , tierno is a likelier love rival than clemont imo . Why? Well , u see , clemont has never before shown interest in serena and neither has she in him. Also, they have been travelling together for quite some time now , so if he was to develop any sort of feelings for her , it would have happened by now. Tierno, however, has shown interest in her previously and even tho we are unaware of the nature of his feelings for her , we know they are there, regardless of their nature. So , if the writers are gonna introduce a love rival , he seems the go-to-guy.
As for the last line, im gonna pretend i didnt read what i clearly just read.
@Everyone i have quoted in this post and others who also misinterpretted my earlier point ; i have gone through the trouble of snipping my previous huge post and quoting that para for you guys. Please carefully read and understand my words, and realize ur misinterpretation.
Nice post , however , im interested in the tierno point only. I think he could very well be the much anticipated love rival and could benefit amour one way or the other..... Yes, i know , there is no confirmation of him having even the slightest effects on the ship , let alone being a love rival , this is mere speculation (that is not baseless cus he was shown to have a crush on serena , though the nature of the crush us unknown to is for now)
Note that i had said that he COULD be the love rival and COULD BENEFIT amour one way or the other. Nowhere did i mention him or anyone else for that matter threatening amour. Also , i had clearly said its mere speculation and we are unaware of the nature of tierno's feelings.
So , as you can see , my hypothesis was spot on.
Conclusion : Misinterpretation is a ***** .........