I just saw XY092/093, and it doesn't seem totay impossible after that. Granted, they were talking about a Pokemon loving Ash, but at least he wasn't like "You mean best buddies right?"
He's much more mature than BW Ash and frankly that Ash was not very smart (sorry BW fans). I wouldn't find it that hard for a mature Ash to understand love.
You know, I think it would be a realization based off of something Serena does. Once he has that realization, it will be easier to get stuff out of him.
He's much more mature than BW Ash and frankly that Ash was not very smart (sorry BW fans). I wouldn't find it that hard for a mature Ash to understand love.
There's fans for BW? :3
It'd also serve as a springboard for real canonical stuff, because there's no excuse to cut Serena off, as something real has happened between Ash and Serena.
Another scenario: Serena pulls Ash up a la Pokemon Summer Camp in Pallet Town, when Ash wakes up from his floating cross thing. "Don't give up 'til it's over", and Serena pulls Ash up, hugs him, and stays in a hug until someone attacks them. Cue the shocked Ash.
AG Ash said the exact same thing. And I'll defend the first two seasons of BW as legitimately average. The season 3 was just stupid though.
Ok guys, sorry for going a little off topic but there is something i can't get off my mind. We know the real enemy of this shipping is Yashio (Palermo), and we know that Serena is going to call her to be mentored, the question is when? Are we going to get semi-cannon amour after TF arc and Serena stays in Kalos while Ash goes to Alola? Canon amour but Serena stays in Kalos? No amour, she goes to Alola and they develop it there? I hate to say it but afterall Yashio's character only purpose is to be Serena's possible exit from the series. How do you think the writers are going to handle this after the TF arc?
Ok guys, sorry for going a little off topic but there is something i can't get off my mind. We know the real enemy of this shipping is Yashio (Palermo), and we know that Serena is going to call her to be mentored, the question is when? Are we going to get semi-cannon amour after TF arc and Serena stays in Kalos while Ash goes to Alola? Canon amour but Serena stays in Kalos? No amour, she goes to Alola and they develop it there? I hate to say it but afterall Yashio's character only purpose is to be Serena's possible exit from the series. How do you think the writers are going to handle this after the TF arc?
So here's a question:
If and when Serena finds Ash during the TF arc, would you rather her be upset, emotional, and sensitive about his condition, or furious and ready to make some heads roll?
Nah. Once again, there was never a circumstance which even hinted a league win. Even the titles probably had a different interpretation in pure Japanese which was lost in translation. Whereas AmourShipping has only one possible outcome. I mean, can you see any other interpretation for it such that it need not end up in a confession at all, and can just be slid away like something else? It directly points towards some resolution at the end at the very least. Whereas there was no foreshadowing whatsoever regarding the league. Like I mentioned, Ash-Greninja was never supposed to win the league. If it did so, it would be secondary. The primary purpose was, is and always will be to save the world. And that's to happen.
2. I do agree about the writing interpretation. The furfrou thing is a little like Ash telling his mom he'd win the Kalos league. However, it still is a little weird why they included it then,unless the furfrou trainer turns out to be related to TF in some way
What you two carry is a little thing called hindsight bias. Prior to the league there wasn't anything that supported your notion while there did exist stuff that supported mine's and Epicocity's. There were plenty of circumstances and subplota that pointed to an Ash win. The fact that both the promise to Ash's mom and the Furfrou punk (and we'll go add the vow tree from the famous "date" episode) ended up becoming unfulfilled. Plenty of things pointed to an Ash win. I have explained so in my previous post.
With the massive letdown from the league, the Team Flare arc has a heavy burden on it to make it up. Hopefully there will also be Amour moments too, as this is an oppurtune time to do so.
What you two carry is a little thing called hindsight bias. Prior to the league there wasn't anything that supported your notion while there did exist stuff that supported mine's and Epicocity's. There were plenty of circumstances and subplota that pointed to an Ash win. The fact that both the promise to Ash's mom and the Furfrou punk (and we'll go add the vow tree from the famous "date" episode) ended up becoming unfulfilled. Plenty of things pointed to an Ash win. I have explained so in my previous post.
With the massive letdown from the league, the Team Flare arc has a heavy burden on it to make it up. Hopefully there will also be Amour moments too, as this is an oppurtune time to do so.
I disagree. I don't recall seeing him promising about winning the League since Kanto with that much genuine with his mom like that, and how he kept mentioning about winning the League at the beginning of every series except this one and Kanto.What you have is just plain bias. Enlighten me. What did foreshadow the league victory? Olympia's prophecy? No. The battle against Diantha? Not really. The promise to his mom, well. He's been promising for years. There was no mention about him wanting to win/expecting to win the league whatsoever. Do prove me wrong if you find something though.
That right there is bad writting. At first we thought that the writers added him in order to imply that this time is different. Unlike any other League, Ash carries the burden of the trainers who couldn't participate. Heck, they also made that moment serious and intense to the point I thought that was the breaking point for Ash. Now that Ash lose, his addition is almost pointless.As to that Furfrou guy, we don't even know what his purpose was.
And it did, like Serena carried the burden of her rivals. I think their stories are similar, to that extent.I disagree. I don't recall seeing him promising about winning the League since Kanto with that much genuine with his mom like that, and how he kept mentioning about winning the League at the beginning of every series except this one and Kanto.
That right there is bad writting. At first we thought that the writers added him in order to imply that this time is different. Unlike any other League, Ash carries the burden of the trainers who couldn't participate. Heck, they also made that moment serious and intense to the point I thought that was the breaking point for Ash. Now that Ash lose, his addition is almost pointless.
Now, I don't think this thread is appropriate for discussing about the League, so I won't mention about this topic any longer since we need to move on from this lost.
Regarding Amour, since Ash got captured by TF, we will probably get tons of worry or even angry shot from Serena. About Ash though, I wonder if they want to give Ash hint, how would they do that?
I was talking with someone about the possibility of Serena's confession, and he brought up a point that I don't think I've heard anyone mention before. The Pokemon Showcases weren't simply materialized out of thin air, but they're based on the Japanese idol phenomenon. This actually makes a lot of sense, they are fairly similar. There's just one problem with it for us. In almost all cases, it is illegal for idols to date. Almost all of them sign contracts that prohibit them from dating, because it hurts their image to all of their fans that want them for themselves. This clause is not consistently held up in Japanese courts, but it is ruled against the idol enough to still hold weight. It's considered an expectation in Japan. Now, obviously, Serena hasn't signed a contract with anyone yet. It's entirely possible that all of her performances are simply considered amateur and her name carries no real weight in Kalos like Aria's does. If that is the case, Serena going with Palermo would almost certainly mean a "no relationships" contract, either on-screen (not going over the contents, but it's implied), or assumed by the Japanese audience. That's the best case scenario. Worst case scenario, the expectation is already on her by the Japanese fans, her fans in-universe, and by the writers, and she can't confess without absolutely destroying her reputation in performances in-universe.
Hey Guys! Thanks for welcoming me to Serebii and this forum! So, I have a question for you guys...
If Armourshipping dosen't happen would you watch the new anime? And if you do, would you accept the new girl?
My answer is Yes, but I wouldn't put it as a top priority every Thursday and I wouldn't ship the new girl and Ash because if Armourshipping dosen't happen, any other ship dosen't have a ghost of a chance. I also have a sinking feeling that the Ahola region is going to end up like BW...Hope I'm wrong.
First, pokemon doesn't follow real life logic. There are no obligation for the writers to follow real life rules for the anime.
Secondly, the expectations are Serena getting with Ash or Serena taking the title of the Kalos Queen. Not on being..........everyone's fantasy or something.
Thirdly, Serena's love for Ash is a pretty big thing for her. If there were something about no relationship, they would have been mentioned by now.
Fourthly, if there were something about "no relationships", then it would be a common thing to follow for everyone who's participating. No such exists.
Fifthly, the writers only took the flashy part of the idol thing and not the songs(as in, Serena doesn't sing), corporate marketing and the idols bieng treated as "pure fairies".
Sixthly, it's Kalos aka France.
There are some other flaws. I'll write them later.