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Amourshipping Thread V3

Morax

King of heroes
First, nice cherrypicking there.

Second, you'd be surprised what is marketed as romance. "Porn with a thin layer of plot" covers things like 50 Shades of Grey and some of the romance novels that are classified as "steamy" like Helen Hoang.

Helen Hoang's "The Kiss Quotient" had a back cover that made it seem like a women's fiction novel with a very interesting premise. After 3 poorly written chapters, it was "insert rod A into slot b."
Lmao
 

Panky..

Discord: Panky..#9281
I don't see how Amour is not dominant in the west too ? Amour has a 4k people community on Reddit and this thread is the most active shipping thread here.

I'm not saying Pokeshipping or (what's the name?) Ash x Goh is not popular just that I highly doubt it's more popular than Amour in the west.

Edit : I also checked, Amour and Pokeshipping are the only shipping that have an official page on Bulbapedia, Ash x Goh don't have one.

Found this too :

50PopularShipsOK3.png
Wtf Kanye.
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Also @cricketlaxwolvesbandy, either grow up and stop spewing horsecrap everywhere, or exercise your Miranda Rights.
 

Dragonsoldier77

Bittersweet Satisfaction
I don't see how Amour is not dominant in the west too ? Amour has a 4k people community on Reddit and this thread is the most active shipping thread here.

I'm not saying Pokeshipping or (what's the name?) Ash x Goh is not popular just that I highly doubt it's more popular than Amour in the west.

Edit : I also checked, Amour and Pokeshipping are the only shipping that have an official page on Bulbapedia, Ash x Goh don't have one.

Found this too :

50PopularShipsOK3.png

Ok that kanye had me lauhghing.
 

AARTX

Dead inside…
Yeah exactly , Serebii is not the representation of the whole fandom, Amour is hated here sure, but it's still a massive minority.

Japan love Amourshipping , I remember when Serena came back back in April 2022 the whole fandom on social medias was hyped , some people that aren't even part of the fandom tweeted about it, even in the west.

For references, look how much attention (and support) it got at the time :

(35k likes)

(over 100k likes)

(This QRT and the original tweet)

The only time I saw the anime get that much attention in 2022 for an actual episode airing was for Ash vs Leon part 4, there were a lot of casual fans that don't usually watch the anime tweeting about Serena return on April 8th, this day was very amazing.

I'd say if Amour ends up canon the only controversy you'll see is in the West and it will only be minor, Japanese fandom will love it for sure.

And if you want to see a Japanese tweet about the kiss anniversary last year, I can find you one :

(18k likes)

(Still a bit sad that Serena overshadowed Lisia's first appearance in the anime... I guess it was worth it)
I remembered Japanese fans calling Wallace "Public Enemy # 1" after the episode came out.

They also tweeted funeral photos of Wallace as if he just died XD
 

Ghyst

Rowlet Enthusiast
Ok what. the. hell

I'm said it before and i'll say it again: what has this thread become?

Can't we all just have a friendly conversation about Amourshipping and not dive too deep into... explict content?
 

Damerdal

[Dam]n h[er] Gan[dal]f!
Yes, there would be plenty of upset people even if the majority of fans weren't teenaged and older (which they are).

I get minor disappointment, but to be legitimately upset? Idk, that seems like an overreaction. I guess I'm not a die-hard Amourshipper. I liked watching those moments when XY aired, and I want it to work out given that the show invested in this subplot.

However, it's not like Ash wasn’t just as close with say, Misty or Dawn, so if he ended up with another character, that would make sense too.

And if it’s nobody at all/isn’t brought up at all, then that makes even more sense since this isn't not a romance show and Ash has been oblivious to romance all series long.

No it won’t. I’ve seen where this goes. It’s never pretty.

If Pokeshipping becomes canon are you going to toss salt everywhere?

Frankly, I hope nothing becomes canon. At least not right now. There is no way they can do any ship justice in 6 episodes when they’re trying to give every one focus before the end.

I wouldn't mind seeing something become mutual, or having hints of it. Amour is the most likely by far.

yeah it seems like there is a divide between the western and eastern fandom when it comes to shipping the dominant ones in the west are most likely satogou and pokeshipping and the dominant ones in the east are amour and pearl.

What exactly do people who enjoy good romance think of the pairing? Not based on personal like or dislike nor on the anime having an official ship, but for those who like well written romance books or shows, do they find it a good romance? Or is it poorly written? Didn't watch too much of XY so I won't personally try to give an opinion.

Some would say this argument is actually a pro for Amourshipping, but one possible criticism of Serena/Amourshipping is that Serena was written to already have a crush on Ash from the get-go. It's not as if they got to know each over the course of XY, and experienced moments that caused her/him to like the other.

She knew him from an experience years ago at a summer camp, and then she sees him again as the same person in XY, and pretty much (re-)likes him instantly. To be fair though, everyone admired XY Ash, so it's rather easy to see why Serena would develop a crush on him even if they didn't share that backstory.

I think detractors of Amourshipping would argue that Serena was just handed this shipping, but there wasn't anything clearly established that would make Ash like her over anybody else. Don't get me wrong though, Serena has a lot of positive qualities that make her a likeable character, but if we're talking about whether this pairing succeeds as a "good romance", then they didn't do nearly enough from Ash's side. She spends all of XY crushing over him, and only confesses in her very last scene.

As I've said before:

Eh, they had plenty of moments that had romantic undertones, even if those moments were exclusively driven by Serena's underlying feelings.

While XY Ash didn't overtly show signs that he viewed her as more than a good friend, he constantly looked after her and was protective of her. He was aware whenever she was down. He supported her goals and path. He was always very polite and kind to her. That's a strong foundation right there.

I guess the only major lacking aspect is that non-XY Ash is generally a more animated and goofy guy, and not afraid to clap back, but Serena didn't exactly have those type of interactions and banter with him, unlike other companions.

Ultimately though, it doesn't have to be a "good romance," as:

Yeah i sometimes don’t see how people delude themselves to thinking otherwise. When it’s not a harem genre work where the whole point is to find who ‘wins’ stories with a focus on action pretty much make it pretty obvious by having the character with the most blatant and constant show of affection be the one.

Like i had absolutely zero care for naruto or bleach ships, but i thought the writing were so obviously on the wall.
 

Morax

King of heroes
Serena was written to already have a crush on Ash from the get-go
She fell in love because he helped her during the summer camp. It’s a classic rescue romance, happens all the time in shounen (Although it doesn’t belong to that demographic, it’s very obviously written like one and follows all the tropes to a T).
 

Heekful

Well-Known Member

Not saying you're wrong because I also had my doubts (and still has) however due to Moot's tweet there's more people that tried to translate what it says and it seems Corocoro really wrote something along those lines, now the translation may differ obviously but the general meaning is the same.


Now we need Dephender to fully confirm it.

Watch them bring all the companions except Serena lmao
 

AARTX

Dead inside…
She fell in love because he helped her during the summer camp. It’s a classic rescue romance, happens all the time in shounen (Although it doesn’t belong to that demographic, it’s very obviously written like one and follows all the tropes to a T).
It’s pretty much the anime equivalent of Red x Yellow in the PokeSpe Manga
 
Have no expectations. I’m feeling pessimistic that they won’t make Amour canon.
 

masdog

What is the airspeed of an unladen Swellow?
Wtf Kanye.
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I seriously LOL'd at that one. And the Hunger Games one...that name just had me LOLing.

And HTF does Kirk/Spock have a portmanteu when it not only predates Daria/Trent and Xena/Gabriella, but it also was the fanfic ship that originated the term "Slash Fic."
 

World Turtle

Well-Known Member
Honestly? Ash, despite his flaws, was one of my childhood heroes, I was 10 myself when the anime came over to the west.
Whoever he gets with or even if he doesn't get with anyone I want to be happy for him. I don't want to be one of those "ruined forever" people.

I am like I've stated before just jaded from years of shipping wars and character bashing in fan-fics. Its just with Ash (finally) being retired as the MC of the anime I think the shipping bug has bitten me again I'm curious if they'll resolve any of the ships and again if they do I want to be supportive.

Though TBH? I think OS Kanto Ash who was a bratty half pint back then would have sunk Serena's crush if they had met during that time.

Noting this because again I’ve read fan-fics that have Serena join Ash in Kanto but make Ash into his XY self from the start without any of the character development to justify it.
 
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SerGoldenhandtheJust

Deluded Dreamer
I honestly think an explicit confirmation that yeah Serena still has that crush on Ash would be more than enough and is what I personal think would happen tbh. Since they probably won't end it with aging Ash up, Yajima's intrepretation of XY's finale of Ash and Serena can still hold up and all
Wtf Kanye.
1f62d.png


Also @cricketlaxwolvesbandy, either grow up and stop spewing horsecrap everywhere, or exercise your Miranda Rights.
I spit my drink when I saw that Kanye x Kanye one LMAO
 

Spider-Phoenix

#ChespinGang
Can't we all just have a friendly conversation about Amourshipping and not dive too deep into... explict content?
Dunno if it's different here but using such naughty keywords puts the site under google's radar in a way that it demonetizes the board because it might think it's a place for improper content.
Not saying you're wrong because I also had my doubts (and still has) however due to Moot's tweet there's more people that tried to translate what it says and it seems Corocoro really wrote something along those lines, now the translation may differ obviously but the general meaning is the same.


Now we need Dephender to fully confirm it.

Watch them bring all the companions except Serena lmao
Going solely by phrase in the tweet's picture, they are saying something like "Ash's travelling companions show up successively/one after another"

It doesn't say "all" but it's worded in a way that could lead to this interpretation, so I'm not surprised DeepL's algorithm offered that
 
I honestly think an explicit confirmation that yeah Serena still has that crush on Ash would be more than enough and is what I personal think would happen tbh. Since they probably won't end it with aging Ash up, Yajima's intrepretation of XY's finale of Ash and Serena can still hold up and all

I spit my drink when I saw that Kanye x Kanye one LMAO
But if Ash doesn’t show explicit confirmation that he has a crush on Serena, then the ship isn’t canon and remains one sided.
 

Dark_King25

Shillmon Defender
I think the next episode will be a test of amourshipping's potential canonicity because there is a chance that Ash is gonna win that battle and give Misty the Clauncher it will depend on why would ash give Misty that Clauncher if that scenario ever happens

I honestly think an explicit confirmation that yeah Serena still has that crush on Ash would be more than enough and is what I personal think would happen tbh. Since they probably won't end it with aging Ash up, Yajima's intrepretation of XY's finale of Ash and Serena can still hold up and all
I agree with this with how things ended up with JN105 Serena's feelings for Ash can be now left up to interpretation.
 
I think the next episode will be a test of amourshipping's potential canonicity because there is a chance that Ash is gonna win that battle and give Misty the Clauncher it will depend on why would ash give Misty that Clauncher if that scenario ever happens


I agree with this with how things ended up with JN105 Serena's feelings for Ash can be now left up to interpretation.
Ash: Gives Misty Clauncher
Pokeshippers: THEYRE IN LOVE
If there’s any explicit Pokeshipping moments then we panic. And Serena’s romantic feelings for Ash are left to interpretation, which is why all the Amour haters are saying that she’s completely over Ash and are praising that episode for her being a more independent woman because she doesn’t love Ash anymore.
Honestly a nonsensical move if after Serena kissed him and told him that he’s her goal that she suddenly completely drops her crush on Ash.
 

AARTX

Dead inside…
Ash: Gives Misty Clauncher
Pokeshippers: THEYRE IN LOVE
If there’s any explicit Pokeshipping moments then we panic. And Serena’s romantic feelings for Ash are left to interpretation, which is why all the Amour haters are saying that she’s completely over Ash and are praising that episode for her being a more independent woman because she doesn’t love Ash anymore.
Honestly a nonsensical move if after Serena kissed him and told him that he’s her goal that she suddenly completely drops her crush on Ash.
Eh if anything, it’s most likely going to be more like BFF/Sibling banter rather than romantic.

But by the off-chance Pokeshipping becomes canon...ooh boy 3 years of setup, promotions, and explicit hints in XY/Z destroyed by an 11-episode rush job LMAO.
 
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Dark_King25

Shillmon Defender
But by the off-chance Pokeshipping becomes canon...ooh boy 3 years of setup and explicit hints in XY/Z defeated by an 11 episode rush job LMAO
You have 4kids to thank for that lmao
 
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