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An Amazing Aerial Battle! (729)

Discussion in 'Pokémon Black & White - Rival Destinies' started by Serebii, Mar 1, 2012.

  1. Vernikova

    Vernikova Champion

    It didn't matter if he came all that way. He chooses whether or not to participate in at that gym. If he doesn't like the way the Gym Leader handles their business then he can go elsewhere.

    An air battle is a battle in Skyla's mind where she relies on the opponents current party to determine who has the advantage in battle. If the trainer has an advantage then she hands the person a badge.

    It seems that you misunderstand what air battles are.
     
  2. Serenna

    Serenna Well-Known Member

    The problem is Skyla is both right and wrong with her air battle prediction against Ash.

    If Ash kept his current team of 3 when the battle started, Skyla would have won that battle.

    However, what she ignored was the fact that Pikachu vs Swanna would be a W for Ash and the other 2 battles would have been a loss for Ash. Skyla was only calculating it via one-on-one battles and count up score that way type-wise (or in the case of Tranquill vs Unfezant, one is fulled evolved over the other so it's easy to say that Unfezant has the advantage).

    She never once considered what would happen if Pikachu single-handled defended ALL 3 of Skyla's Pokemon as per an actual Gym Battle. After all, they are all Flying-types and Pikachu is Electric. By that metric, Ash should win the Gym Battle.
     
  3. Orton155

    Orton155 Pokemon Enthusiast

    Your right, Apologies.

    It seems we both have a different conceptions of an air battle so there is no point in debating that anymore but can I ask you this. If Skyla's Air battles are still right on a techinically that Ash's Team changed during the battle why would Skyla decide to stop doing air battles from now onwards. We know Skyla's personality has an arrogant flavour so if she still thought that her air battles were still valid because of the technicality, wouldn't skyla continue to use these Air battles to determine whether to award the Jet badge to a trainer or not?
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2012
  4. Vernikova

    Vernikova Champion

    Then we agree to disagree. I accept that but I will answer your question.

    That's simply how the writers wrote it out. There was no way that she wasn't going to change her mind regardless if she won or lost due to how the writers operate and I think that is something we can all agree on. To be fair and give you an kayfabe answer: she had fun with the battle and changed her mind seeing how hard Ash fought.
     
  5. pokefandt

    pokefandt Well-Known Member

    The whole air battling thing is kinda going against everything a gym leader stands for, is how I feel. They are there to test the skills and bond of the up and coming trainers and their pokemon. Skyla is deciding if they win or lose just by looking at them, and not putting them to the test. Which would not help the trainers at all.
     
  6. Tommy Botham

    Tommy Botham Member

    So much hacking going on in this stupid episode.

    Krokorok (Ash's most interesting pokemon to date) get's a super effective stone edge deflected by gust, and proceeds to lose in one hit. Swanna (which sounds absolutely retarded) uses Aqua Ring to become immune to 2 electric attacks that are 4x effective vs it.

    What is this ****?
     
  7. TheEliteEmpoleon

    TheEliteEmpoleon Surge Surfer

    Wow that was a bad gym battle. Krokorok should not have gone down in one hit, and Pikachu should've lost a bit more realistically. Bubbles aren't that effective, are they? And in the air battles Skyla didn't even consider Krokorok being part dark type and Swoobat being part psychic. I always get botheredon how small the gym badges are in Unova, even though they look like the biggest badges in the games.
     
  8. WaterShuriken

    WaterShuriken Well-Known Member

    Technically it wasn't one hit.

    Got hit with a Stone Edge rock, and then a fury of Air Cutters.
    Also it was treated as a Dark Type as Ash went directly for Crunch.
     
  9. Joltik-Kid

    Joltik-Kid Another year of wasting my life ಠ_ಠ

    I think what they meant was that no one, not even Cilan or Iris, felt Krokorok had any advantage against Swoobat, all because they said he's a Ground type. Not once saying Dark is super effective against Swoobat's secondary typing Pyschic
     
  10. TheEliteEmpoleon

    TheEliteEmpoleon Surge Surfer

    Thanks.
    Another thing that bothered me was the way they pronounce Iccirus City. I always say "Ick-er-us" not "Ice-ear-us." I guess it makes sense with the cloud names though, and maybe because the ice gym leader is in that city.
     
  11. Lorde

    Lorde Banned

    Skyla was just like every other Gym Leader. The people who are attacking her because of the "air battle" thing are just pressed that she was allowed to run the Mistralton City Gym her way (notice that no one from the Pokemon Gym association told her to stop). God forbid should a female character have so much power. :rolleyes:
     
  12. lisalynn

    lisalynn Active Member

    Commenting as I watch!

    - I hate when they draw Ash from that weird directly-up-the-crotch angle. Also: why are Skyla's hands so large?

    - I still think the animation for Pikachu's Iron Tail is so cute.

    - I'll give it to Swanna because Pikachu didn't manage to get an electric hit. Still bs.

    - I love Ash's gym evolutions. But dear god that Unfezant is ugly and creepy! Stop trilling! Cool win though.
     
  13. WaterShuriken

    WaterShuriken Well-Known Member

    Why do you bring the PIA back? We've basically only seen it twice. Only in Kanto. Who knows if Unova has one.
     
  14. Lorde

    Lorde Banned

    There has to be someone regulating the Unova Gyms. People only doubt that Unova's Gyms are being monitored because they each have their own set of rules. But be that as it may, there has to be some control over Gyms, otherwise chaos would ensue. And no, I don't think Skyla's tactics qualify as chaos.
     
  15. Battra

    Battra Well-Known Member

    I wish I could muster some sort of energy over this episode, but it's was just so boring and predictable. Of course Ash wins when his Pokemon evoles even though Skyla clearly had the advantage when she could've just used Aqua Ring to heal Swanna and win the battle against Ash's Unfezent, but this is Pokemon and the writers are crap as apparent by the whole "Air Battles" controversy and we need to see Skyla prostrate herself on how wrong she was for having a different way of doing things.
     
  16. Why does it seem that the pokemon that Ash uses the least evolve first. I mean, Unfezent is Ash's weakest pokemon, yet its now in it's final stage.
     
  17. WaterShuriken

    WaterShuriken Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't say its his weakest.

    I think that either Oshawott is his weakest now.
     
  18. sam40400

    sam40400 nice

    exactly my thoughts, well the swanna using aqua ring KINDA makes sense since the electricity goes around the rings and doesn't hit swanna but the krokorok getting OHKO'd was stupid, unless of course its heavily untrained
     
  19. Vipsoccermaster

    Vipsoccermaster Well-Known Member

    Hmm, decent battle there. The battle with Swoobat and Krokorok wasn't too pleasing. However, the battles after that were better than the first. Pikachu and Unfezant both did well.
     
  20. Locormus

    Locormus Can we please get the old forum back?

    Uhh.. It first got hit by the bubbles, but then immediately hit by Bravebird and Hurricane. I actually thought it was overkill.. I liked this gymbattle sheer for how badly Pikachu got trashed and that Tranquill got a win in both stages.
     

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