An evolution I never really understood.

[Alphonse Elric]

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Okay, though I may sound pathetic and n00bish for asking this, I'm gonna go on ahead and ask it anyway. Why does Remoraid evolve into Octillery? I'm pretty sure that fish never turn into octopi, but not in the case of Remoraid. If somebody could provide a credible answer, then this may be closed.

 

[Dramatic Melody]

It's really just random. It's like Carvahna, a sorta Fighting/Porcupine Fish evolving to Sharpedo, a Shark...And Eevee (a Mouse) evolving to Vaporeon (a Fish)...

So it's just natural for the pokemon world...although sometimes I think Remoraid is an octopus fry...

 

[Alphonse Elric]

I think Remoraid is an octopus fry...

No, Remoraid is a Remora, a suckerfish that feeds on parasites that can be found in the pectoral fins of sharks, and other larger fish.

Whilst Octillery is an Octopus, a Cephalopod which happens to be completely unrelated to the remora.

An the Carvanha/Sharpedo thing, it can be understood, because they are both FISH. Carvanha is a piranha, while Sharpedo is a shark. Both are fish.

All the other evolutions, I really do not understand why they are that way, since they have no relation to the pre-evo Pokemon.

 

[Yamato-san]

even if the evolution seems to be involving completely different animals, they still have something in common: both Pokemon are based off of weaponry. Think about it, you've got an archer fish, which acts kinda like a gun. It evolves into an octopus, an animal that expels ink at supposedly high pressure. The octopus Pokemon also has fictional aspects in its design that only further relates it to weaponry (having a near-exclusive attack that's based on a cannonball, a Japanese name based off the English word "tank", and even an English name based off of "artillery").

This is also the reason these Pokemon learn several beam-based attacks, as well as projectile TMs like Bullet Seed and Flamethrower (I don't know why people find that hard to believe). Though, it's kinda wierd that Teppouo has Hustle for a characteristic (lowers accuracy), considering archers, gunmen, snipers, etc. should have pretty refined accuracy (it's not like the trait helps it any, neither, having such a weak physical movepool).

An the Carvanha/Sharpedo thing, it can be understood, because they are both FISH. Carvanha is a piranha, while Sharpedo is a shark. Both are fish.

They're not just fish. They're carnivorous fish, thus the evolution seems compatible. Really, if Samehader could just evolve from any other fish, then with your logic, it'd be no surprise if it evolved from Tosakinto.

 

[The Mighty Wurmple]

I think Eevee is supposed to be a cat and so is Vaporeon..

I have no idea about the Remoraid one though.

 

[Captain Brain]

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Okay, though I may sound pathetic and n00bish for asking this, I'm gonna go on ahead and ask it anyway. Why does Remoraid evolve into Octillery? I'm pretty sure that fish never turn into octopi, but not in the case of Remoraid. If somebody could provide a credible answer, then this may be closed.

There are several animal in this world that through metamorphosis change to have the best chance of survival, in fact there is an organism that changes from an animal to a plant. I will get more details once I can find the animals name. ;025;

 

[Steinhauser]

As soon as I saw the title of the topic I knew what two Pokémon you'd be on about.

I think the connecting feature is their weaponlike qualities. They both have kind of "shooty mouths", especially the way they're animated in Stadium, etc.

Edit: That guy up there already said that.

 

[Alphonse Elric]

I think Eevee is supposed to be a cat and so is Vaporeon..

I have no idea about the Remoraid one though.

Remoraid is a Remora fish, as stated in my second post in here. And Octillery is an octopus, completely unrelated to the Remora, because it is a cephalopod whilst the Remora is a fish.

Out of all the posts, I find Yamato-san's to be the most reasonable answer. But I'm still looking for more convincing answers, then I'll shut up.

 

[The Mighty Wurmple]

I didn't say anything about the Remoraid->Octillery thing...

I think it might because of the stuff(ink etc.) they shoot out of they're mouth, like the others said.

 

[Dramatic Melody]

No, Remoraid is a Remora, a suckerfish that feeds on parasites that can be found in the pectoral fins of sharks, and other larger fish.

Whilst Octillery is an Octopus, a Cephalopod which happens to be completely unrelated to the remora.

An the Carvanha/Sharpedo thing, it can be understood, because they are both FISH. Carvanha is a piranha, while Sharpedo is a shark. Both are fish.

All the other evolutions, I really do not understand why they are that way, since they have no relation to the pre-evo Pokemon.

it's only my imagination about the remoraid being an octopus fry...I dunno...it's just my mind playing on me

about the carvahna/sharpedo relationship...i got yah

 

[Alphonse Elric]

I didn't say anything about the Remoraid->Octillery thing...

I think it might because of the stuff(ink etc.) they shoot out of they're mouth, like the others said.

Remoras don't shoot ink from their mouths, they merely suck up dirt and parasites with them.

Well, I guess the most reasonable explanation (for now) as to why Remoraid evolves into Octillery is because they both have something to do with weaponry...

Still looking for other theories before I shut up completely.

 

[pikadon92]

even if the evolution seems to be involving completely different animals, they still have something in common: both Pokemon are based off of weaponry. Think about it, you've got an archer fish, which acts kinda like a gun. It evolves into an octopus, an animal that expels ink at supposedly high pressure. The octopus Pokemon also has fictional aspects in its design that only further relates it to weaponry (having a near-exclusive attack that's based on a cannonball, a Japanese name based off the English word "tank", and even an English name based off of "artillery").

This is also the reason these Pokemon learn several beam-based attacks, as well as projectile TMs like Bullet Seed and Flamethrower (I don't know why people find that hard to believe). Though, it's kinda wierd that Teppouo has Hustle for a characteristic (lowers accuracy), considering archers, gunmen, snipers, etc. should have pretty refined accuracy (it's not like the trait helps it any, neither, having such a weak physical movepool).



They're not just fish. They're carnivorous fish, thus the evolution seems compatible. Really, if Samehader could just evolve from any other fish, then with your logic, it'd be no surprise if it evolved from Tosakinto.

What are these supposed to be? But he's right, remoraid and octellery are samed on guns and tanks.
Carvannas are based on pharvannas(sp?) and sharpedo are based on sharks (of some sorf). Both are dangerous aqautic animals.

 

[Alphonse Elric]

What are these supposed to be? But he's right, remoraid and octellery are samed on guns and tanks.
Carvannas are based on pharvannas(sp?) and sharpedo are based on sharks (of some sorf). Both are dangerous aqautic animals.

Parvanna? O.O

I think you mean Piranha.

And, that's not the evolution that I was wondering about. I was wondering about WHY Remoraid evolves into Octillery, when, the Remora and the Octopus, their real life counterparts, have absolutely nothing in common.

I've accepted Yamato-san's theory as a reasonable explanation, but I'm still looking for the best hypothesis as to why Remoraid Evolves into Octillery, other than the fact that they are both associated with weaponry and artilley, at least one way or another.

 

[pikadon92]

And, that's not the evolution that I was wondering about. I was wondering about WHY Remoraid evolves into Octillery, when, the Remora and the Octopus, their real life counterparts, have absolutely nothing in common.

Because it is meant to be that way. Ask nintendo (from JKAPN!) if you like. But do not foget about mantine. Some remoraids evolves, while others make mantine their homes. Remoraids could be preys as well as predators.

 

[Alphonse Elric]

Because it is meant to be that way. Ask nintendo (from JKAPN!) if you like. But do not foget about mantine. Some remoraids evolves, while others make mantine their homes. Remoraids could be preys as well as predators.

I beg to differ.

Remoraids do not, live, per se, on the Mantines. They only have a symbiotic relationship with them, as do real-life remoras do with manta rays and sharks, by feeding on their parasites. The Mantines get relief from the Remoraid, and the Remoraid gets a free meal and ride.

But, that isn't really the topic, now, is it? While I agree that some Remoraids don't bother evolving because of Mantines, there ARE atill some that DO evolve into Octillery, and my question prevails. WHY? Remoras and Octopi are completely different species, and it seems quite far-fetched that a fish would evolve into an octopus.

 

[pikadon92]

Hm......how should I say? Caterpillars and butterflies looks VERY different from each otgher, yet a caterpillar will turn into butterflies.
The young does nopt always have to look like their adults. Sometimes, they can be EXTREEMLY different.

 

[Alphonse Elric]

Hm......how should I say? Caterpillars and butterflies looks VERY different from each otgher, yet a caterpillar will turn into butterflies.
The young does nopt always have to look like their adults. Sometimes, they can be EXTREEMLY different.

It's called Metamorphosis.

And, last time I checked, fish don't wrap themselves around cocoons and emerge as octopi, so that really made no sense.

Again, the most reasonable theory/explanation I've seen so far is Yamato-san's... They are connected because they both have something to do with artillery.

 

[pikadon92]

It's called Metamorphosis.

And, last time I checked, fish don't wrap themselves around cocoons and emerge as octopi, so that really made no sense.

Again, the most reasonable theory/explanation I've seen so far is Yamato-san's... They are connected because they both have something to do with artillery.

Heard about an ugly duckling story that became a swan in the end? Or think of magicarb/gyrados, or feebas/moltolic.
And remoraid's evolvtion is something like metamorphosis without cocoon. It can take place without the cocoon part of remoraid's case.

 

[Strawberry.]

Uh oh! A POKéMON evolves into something completely different. Sorry, but I don't think you should even waste your time thinking about it. It's fiction, and as we all know, fiction is the headliner at the A-classes. Anyways, sorry, but I would only start to worry if it happened in real life. ^O^

 

[/Exiled/]

yeah, Its pokemon, dont think to hard.