ShadowForce720
Well-Known Member
So this is perfectly fine even though it clearly violates game mechanics, yet what Ash did is apparently the biggest offense ever? That's what i'm not getting here.
Either way i'm tired of arguing over this episode, I agree that it's not the best battle Ash has ever had but at least there was some degree of innovation on his part which is the reason I find it tolerable.
Only thing I still want to know is what Hapu said during the end scene, cause it sounded to me like she was denying being lonely, I didn't hear Ash brought up specifically.
That's not same thing, when a Ground type move actually makes contact it's not changing the pokemon's type, your misunderstanding flying type immunity to Ground type moves, you think it's a complete immunity where even if the move hits the flying type pokemon in the anime that it won't do damage when this has already been proven not to be the case, if you look back at the 3rd gym battle in Kalos you will notice that even though Hawlucha is part flying type it still took damage from Mega Lucario's Bone Rush despite Bone Rush being a Ground type move and Lucario not using Smack Down or Gravity and this is because the move made contact with Hawlucha.
The reason why the games don't show this is because the games own limitation in that you can't really make your average Ground type moves have a chance of making contact because then you would have weird cases like Earthquake hitting a flying type pokemon while it's in the air. Basically when a pokemon in the games has the flying type it's always treated as being in the air even if you see it standing on the ground unless you use a move like Smack Down or Gravity.
However since the anime isn't bound to the restrictions and limitations that the games are, it means they can actually show whether or not the ground type move makes contact, in the anime flying types only immunity to Ground type moves is when they are out of reach of the move however if the Ground type move makes contact with the flying type pokemon it will do damage for instance if Rowlet was knocked down to the ground and was touch the ground when Bulldoze makes contact then there is no reason why Bulldoze shouldn't do damage.
Where as in the case of what Ash did here was the Seawater literally changed the typing of Mudsdale to being a pure Water type even though outside of the first gym battle of the OS water never really stated to have the effect of removing a Ground type pokemon's Ground typing and replacing with a Water typing.
Basically the 2 situations aren't the same in the case of Mudsdale knocking Rowlet down and hitting it with a Ground type move that winds up making contact with Rowlet and doing damage is not changing or removing Rowlet's flying type while, in the case of Ash's Pikachu using the Seawater to make Mudsdale vulnerable to Electric attacks and was said to be the same as using the move Soak which changed Mudsdales Ground typing to Water typing.