The Admiral
the star of the masquerade
Boy, now I remember why I decided not to follow up very much in this shit carnival. Really, at this point, I don't know why we need this thread open anymore.
I didn't imply they were peaceful. Like, where the **** did you get that from?
I mean, it's obvious, Nazis are evil. Blah blah I have skin in this game too, do you want me to tell you about the whole genderfluid/bisexual thing and how the original Nazis burned the original Institut fur Sexualwissenschaft in 1933. But also, your murderous streak is far too wide for anyone who wants to call themselves a human being. Do I need to go back and remind you what you said about John McCain? I mean, he is a scumbag (and admittedly, I rescinded my earlier grace because he pretty much decided to try and go for the gold medal in the 2017 Scumbag Olympics), but you crossed a line, and now you're crossing another one when you suggest we should actually kill, by torture (according to the stories, Vlad the Impaler, whom you name-check, invented some really intricate torture methods resulting in slow deaths) or crucifixion, Nazis. Due to the complexity involved with these, what you're suggesting we do is very systemic as opposed to being something that could be read as self-defense by most people (think about this: if you knew someone out there had a contract to kill you, and you find them and kill them first, how likely is that to be considered self-defense?).
It is fully possible to stop Nazism and silence hate speech without resorting to surrendering your humanity. There is a strong difference between a giving someone a sucker punch and murdering them, especially if it's heavily premeditated. Let's consider not giving in to the temptation to be as shitty a human being as them, 'kay? If you seriously think the ends justify the means, you have probably never done anything seriously wrong in your entire life, and if you'd be able to say that after the fact and forever, you're probably a little bit on the sociopathic side. What you two are doing is probably the thing we need the least of right now.
"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - you know, that guy
There's also this.
You don't destroy an ideology by killing all the people who believe in it anyway. That methodology means you just end up waiting around for someone else to come back with it so you can keep playing your game of Ideological Whac-a-Mole.
I'm guessing that Normal Boots is a relatively informal group, but I'm not an expert about its internals.
I didn't imply they were peaceful. Like, where the **** did you get that from?
I mean, it's obvious, Nazis are evil. Blah blah I have skin in this game too, do you want me to tell you about the whole genderfluid/bisexual thing and how the original Nazis burned the original Institut fur Sexualwissenschaft in 1933. But also, your murderous streak is far too wide for anyone who wants to call themselves a human being. Do I need to go back and remind you what you said about John McCain? I mean, he is a scumbag (and admittedly, I rescinded my earlier grace because he pretty much decided to try and go for the gold medal in the 2017 Scumbag Olympics), but you crossed a line, and now you're crossing another one when you suggest we should actually kill, by torture (according to the stories, Vlad the Impaler, whom you name-check, invented some really intricate torture methods resulting in slow deaths) or crucifixion, Nazis. Due to the complexity involved with these, what you're suggesting we do is very systemic as opposed to being something that could be read as self-defense by most people (think about this: if you knew someone out there had a contract to kill you, and you find them and kill them first, how likely is that to be considered self-defense?).
It is fully possible to stop Nazism and silence hate speech without resorting to surrendering your humanity. There is a strong difference between a giving someone a sucker punch and murdering them, especially if it's heavily premeditated. Let's consider not giving in to the temptation to be as shitty a human being as them, 'kay? If you seriously think the ends justify the means, you have probably never done anything seriously wrong in your entire life, and if you'd be able to say that after the fact and forever, you're probably a little bit on the sociopathic side. What you two are doing is probably the thing we need the least of right now.
"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - you know, that guy
There's also this.
You don't destroy an ideology by killing all the people who believe in it anyway. That methodology means you just end up waiting around for someone else to come back with it so you can keep playing your game of Ideological Whac-a-Mole.
I'm guessing that Normal Boots is a relatively informal group, but I'm not an expert about its internals.
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