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Anyone else notice these last couple years the anime has broken trends? (Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Pokémon Animé Discussion' started by GMax Helios, Feb 11, 2020.

  1. game3524

    game3524 Well-Known Member

    I doubt they do that (granted, they have broke a lot of trends in recent years....). But Ash having a crush on a girl could be really funny if done right.
     
  2. AuraChannelerChris

    AuraChannelerChris "How did I know that would be your reaction?"

    Not counting the bonkers Kanto era, this would piss off people who shipped Ash and Serena. The kid did really bad romantically speaking when he was with Serena.

    We all remember that atrocious "date" episode, right.
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2020
  3. Sham

    Sham Someone is calling us

    I don’t welcome anymore romance into the anime. The writers can keep their musty romance plots. I do wish they’d break a newish pattern which involves the current Poke girl(s) being rather passive towards Ash and allow them to argue. Even Misty and Ash only got into it for a split second in SM.
     
  4. game3524

    game3524 Well-Known Member

    Meh, this is a meta series anyway, so who cares?

    Anyway, I am not talking about some "serious" shipping plot. That will never really work with Ash given the nature of the series. But a one off thing like he had with Giselle, yeah I would open to that because it is humorous and it puts Ash in a different light.

    If you count Koharu as a "Pokegirl" then they already broke that pattern. Granted, she doesn't argue with Ash, but she isn't passive or in awe of him.
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2020
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  5. AznKei

    AznKei Badass girls saving their boyfriends. XD

    Yeah, like the Pokegirl from the previous series who doesn't make a cameo in the current series since XY, Misty & Brock cameos in SM when they already had cameos before, Ash winning the Pokemon League in Alola and no Pokegirls in PM2019 since Koharu isn't one full-time.

    It's a shame really, because I really favor spotlights equality with Ash's companions, along doing with a variety of things instead of sticking to their tropes, regardless how I feel about them and I think it would have benefited every fans of the show.

    I don't care about any Ash shippings. I rather see girls having fun with themselves, much better if they saved the days by themselves.
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2020
  6. Leonhart

    Leonhart Imagineer

    I do miss the days when Satoshi would bicker with his female friends on occasion. I didn't mind his interactions with Lilie and Serena too much, but it does get rather boring watching the whole cast get along all the time. Sometimes a little turbulence can be a good thing.
     
  7. Zoruagible

    Zoruagible Lover of underrated characters

    Now Ash just needs to catch a legendary, a second Electric type, get a girlfriend, and get written off.
    And Team Rocket, the organization, needs to disband. They hardly utilize the actual Team Rocket organization and if the TRio left that'd make room for new recurring villains who belong to the regional villainous team, think like the Skull trio but actually used and not shoved in a corner neglected for no good reason

    And a new character would stop them possibly going out of the way to justify Ash's story continuing, like Dragon Ball just brings in a bigger threat or a new super duper form every season just to keep people (somehow?) interested

    This ^^^^

    It could, yeah. It'd be cool if they finally had Ash have the hots for another girl, even if it was a one and done like Giselle was. Or bring Giselle back....
    Though I'd honestly settle for another character liking him, one like Angie, Anabel, or what-her-name from Johto's League, it's been quite some time and those were interesting takes as they had more character than simply "Oh Ash..... *blush*"
    Like a female rival(NOT Marnie), liking him but being a complete ass to hide the fact she loves him.

    Aren't most of them always pissed off? lol
    I ship Amour but I think Ash liking a girl would be fun
     
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  8. GMax Helios

    GMax Helios Member

    So I take it you don't count mythicals as legendaries?
     
  9. TheCharredDragon

    TheCharredDragon A Thief and her Love, til Death Do Thou Part

    I'm pretty sure even the Pokémon Company/Game Freak/whoever handles official stuff consider Mythical Pokémon and Legendary Pokémon as two different categories, so even if one considers a Mythical as a Legendary, officially it isn't (like Ultra Beasts not being considered Legendaries even if someone says otherwise).
     
  10. Leonhart

    Leonhart Imagineer

    Well then hypothetically if Mythicals don't count as Legendaries, I could see Satoshi getting his first Legendary Pokemon in the current series. I just don't think it'll be something like Houou, which someone previously suggested in the capture speculation thread. To me that would seem random considering that Houou is symbolic, and I can't imagine it under someone's control.
     
  11. Twilight-Kun

    Twilight-Kun Pokemon World Champion

    >Mythical

    It's not a Legendary :p
     
  12. PorcelainVulpix

    PorcelainVulpix justice for johto

    Agreed, but this sounds so familiar...(minus the rival part)
     
  13. Rohanator

    Rohanator Well-Known Member

    Looking at that list makes me more impressed over how unwilling the anime used to be to do anything cool than how "daring" they are now, most of those things would just be a given in any other show.

    SM just did most of the things that happen in the games, you're the first champion, you fight Kukui, you fight Koko, get all the most special Mons etc, even the possibility of Satoshi and Go fighting Eternatus with the wolves doesn't seem crazy when you consider that the anime might just be more willing to follow the games these days. I bet they somehow catch Mewtwo too.
     
  14. game3524

    game3524 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, it really does show how formulaic the show has been for years.

    It is good that they are taking more risks (catching Dragonite was a pleasant surprise IMO.). But they should have been doing this years ago.
     
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2020
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  15. Ryu Taylor

    Ryu Taylor Unwavering beliefs

    One trend I'm glad to see be broken is the JP version being terrible.
     
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  16. Leonhart

    Leonhart Imagineer

    I agree that they should've had Satoshi catch more fully-evolved Pokemon in past sagas once it was established that he was getting more experienced, although I don't know if I'd claim that him getting Kairyu counts as a risk per se since there's no downside involved.
     
  17. GMax Helios

    GMax Helios Member

    There's another one I just remembered. There was no Alola movie with the Alola gang. The 1st movie (if you want to count it considering it literally has Alola Pokemon like Incineroar and Marshadow) was pretty much a Kanto reboot with a replacement for Brock and Misty and the 2nd (and best of them all imo) one doesn't even have anyone traveling with Ash.
     
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  18. Leonhart

    Leonhart Imagineer

    The recent movies have definitely been a big change from the norm, although I don't consider that to be a positive change since I didn't have much of a problem with the old movie formula to begin with. I really dislike the AU concept that's being used in a lot of the newer movies, although I seem to be in the minority.
     
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  19. Twilight-Kun

    Twilight-Kun Pokemon World Champion

    The SM artstyle would've translated horribly to a movie style

    A BW/XY-style Ultra Recon Squad movie that properly showcased Necrozma would've been amazing
     
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  20. Ryu Taylor

    Ryu Taylor Unwavering beliefs

    BTW, I know the show didn't do this, but the fact that there is now a movie not made by Japan means another trend got broken.

    And that gave us the best Pokemon movie.
     

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