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Anyone else the female Psuedo Rivals need more personality?

Fataal

Lone Archetype
Well, rather technically, THAT IS THEIR PERSONALITY.

Being helpful.

Also, I'd really like someone to try and point out how the D/P/P rival is boring. I mean seriously, the main thing most people seem to hate him for is because he "has too much energy" (despite the fact that the trait seems to be genetic, seeing how his father is also rather energetic) and "too nice". Seriously, people don't want a rival to be nice?

Have people forgotten what the word even means anymore?

Rival - definition - a peer that equals or matches your talents and pushes you to be better.

Personality aside, I haven't this way seen RBY/GSC. That being sai I don't agree with your statement for one reason. Its not that people need a mean rival, though that would be awesome. Its more like we were all sorta still noobish back then and felt it difficult to beat them and adapted to their personality. Because of this we downplay our new rivals because in reality they've become weak compared to what are noobish selves remember. As for psuedo-rivals, they are suppose to be lame and friendly. I doubt Blue or Silver is going to randomly give you an item cause he respects you.
 

BlitzBlast

Busy with School
It's more then the Nolstagia filter. It's the fact that people are literally calling Pearl a bad rival because he dares to be nice.

And incidentally, Blue gave you the Fame Checker. So yeah.
 

Ekaru

Active Member
Some of you need to look back and play Red/Blue again.

Blue was very similar to Barry/Pearl/Jun. Both are friendly, a bit excited, and want to be better than you. Blue is more cocky, but does change a bit in the three years between RBY and GSC. Silver, on the other hand, is cruel pretty much all the way through, except for the last battle. BTW, this is from a decade ago. Now we know that he didn't want to join his father's team rocket, and that he is Giovanni's son. No one thought of that a decade ago, however. And he's still a total jerk. He kicks you, for crying out loud!

Silver was the cruel guy, Blue was conceited yet friendly, in his own, smelly little way.

Back on topic.

I am playing through Emerald as May, after a Saphire and previous Emerald runthroughs. Boy, there's a huge difference between May and Brenden. I literally thought after the first couple of times meeting Brenden, "wow, Brenden actually has personality! o.o;".

I agree, the girl pseudo-rivals (only in R/S/E and DPt in the English language, are the PC you didn't play with) are lame compared to the male ones. Need more personality, and just saying, "hi, here's an item" isn't personality, you smart alecks.
 

Fataal

Lone Archetype
Some of you need to look back and play Red/Blue again.

Blue was very similar to Barry/Pearl/Jun.

Wow... but no.

It's more then the Nolstagia filter. It's the fact that people are literally calling Pearl a bad rival because he dares to be nice.

And incidentally, Blue gave you the Fame Checker. So yeah.

Well considering my argument directly pointed ot RBY I can see hoe Blue giving me the fame checker would change my opinion *sarcasm* Wait RBY had a fame checker?
 

BlitzBlast

Busy with School
Well considering my argument directly pointed ot RBY I can see hoe Blue giving me the fame checker would change my opinion *sarcasm* Wait RBY had a fame checker?

You stated Blue and Silver wouldn't give anything out of respect. You never specified which.

I'm just grasping at straws here, I know.
 

ShinyPichu4Ever

Eye of the Storm
You're right. The female pseudo-rivals are very lame compared to the male ones. The females just wander around and occasionally go up to you and say "Hey there! Here's an item. I have to work on my Pokedex. Bye!" while the male ones actually have a kind of "conversation" with your character.
 
The female Psuedo Rivals are so stereotypically feminine and helpful. I hate it.
agreed
Hell, I want a female rival who tells me she's gonna drag me through the dirt and bury me alive.. although... I'd take ANY personality over none at all..
 

ShinyPichu4Ever

Eye of the Storm
I want the femal rivals to have the actual drive to do something like become champion rather than walking around with a pokedex giving you items
 

Prisimviere

Not Returned.
I like May's helpful and cheerful personality, but I think she needs more pep and a tomboyish attitude. Just look at the way she dresses, she's like a tomboy for me. Dawn is girly, but somehow dull. You know the similarities? THEY LIKE CUTE POKEMON (sorry for the caps, folks.)

I want a female Psuedo rival who is unique. Kinda tomboyish, not fond of cute Pokemon, poised, and sorta cool and tough at the same time, don't you agree?
 

Lorde

Let's go to the beach, each.
Hmm maybe a female rival who is interested in Gym Battles like Kotone.

We didn't get to see her in action, but I believe she has this personality that the others lack.
 

ShinyPichu4Ever

Eye of the Storm
I agree that Kotone had more personality than the other female pseudo-rivals combined.
 

~Magic Thunderbolt~

Well-Known Member
The reason they girls have a flat personality is because, let's face it, they're just there to prevent a temporal paradox that should arise during the "are you a boy or a girl?" part of the game.

Oh and more guys play Pokemon kthxbai
 

Charmageddon

Well-Known Member
Oh and more guys play Pokemon kthxbai

So surely the female pseudo-rivals should have more work put into their personality than the male ones, as more players will meet female pseudo-rivals than male ones.
 

ShinyPichu4Ever

Eye of the Storm
So surely the female pseudo-rivals should have more work put into their personality than the male ones, as more players will meet female pseudo-rivals than male ones.

If more guys play pokemon then that is kind of to be expected
 

~Magic Thunderbolt~

Well-Known Member
Because the main demographic for Pokémon is young boys, most of whom think girls have cooties.

Still doesn't excuse the girls being flat characters though.
 

5wamp3rt

Well-Known Member
yes. Dawn does not do enough, I wish you battled against/with her more often. Give us another rival who is the champion. That would be awesome.
 

Lorde

Let's go to the beach, each.
Because the main demographic for Pokémon is young boys, most of whom think girls have cooties.

Still doesn't excuse the girls being flat characters though.

I see your point.

But if the anime is aimed at young boys I wonder why we have male flat characters like Brock, Kenny, etc.
 
I shall attempt to describe May and Dawn's personality:

The docile, sweet lab assistant eager to complete the pokedex and help you complete your pokedex too. She hopes you'll become a good friend of hers, and cheers for you as you parade through (insert region's name here).


Really, I don't understand why people want May and Dawn to have a personality that is less nice and supportive and more competitive and tough. She's a PSEUDO-rival. That's what a pseudo-rival does. Especially when you're working alongside her in completing a pokedex. As associates in completing the pokedex, she's bound to be helpful and nice, isn't she? She's not "flat" at all. I bet there's much more to May and Dawn than just that, but she's not your true rival, so you wouldn't know as much. I don't think you're supposed to see her that often as your real rival.
 

BlitzBlast

Busy with School
The problem is that the games never really give much personality at all; that job lies to the various adaptions.

Take May.

In the game, she's very cheerful.

In the anime, she's the same, only she apparently is a freak of nature concerning her breast size.

In the manga, she's a very tsundere wildchild, and she actually looks like a 10 year old.
 

Jb

Tsun in the streets
Im sick of all these immature happy go lucky rivals we want rivals we look forward to beating the crap out of. not this O herz comes the kid with Add hez gonna finez me a million dollar if i dont hurry up and drink ma soda....
 
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