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Anyone else think that the Ash vs Alain Kalos League Final was the best animated 6v6 battle?

Discussion in 'Pokémon Animé Discussion' started by Power Up, Nov 22, 2018.

  1. mehmeh1

    mehmeh1 Neutral force of Meh

    or.......we end up with noriko ito for the most important match and iwane and ohashi do fillers right before the league
     
  2. Akkipeddi

    Akkipeddi Tsundere Service

    Iwane will do an 'Eevee gets lost at the League' episode which has the best animation out of all the league episodes.
     
  3. Kuzehiko

    Kuzehiko Well-Known Member

    To be completely honest, I wasn't even impressed on how the Ash vs Alain fight in the Kalos league was animated. I consider Ash vs Sawyer to be a way better and probably the best animated 6vs6 fight ever in the Pokemon anime.
     
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  4. Power Up

    Power Up ...

    AG vs MS probably is equal or better than AG vs MCX but I found that overall the latter's 6v6 was much better
     
  5. Hammad80

    Hammad80 Active Member

    I just wish it’d won against bisharp. They should have ended it at Goodra using bide- it would have been perfect if they did.
     
  6. Yuugis Black Magician

    Yuugis Black Magician Well-Known Member

    The Shin'ou and Kalos Leagues had the production staff bend over backward to ensure the quality of the main battles so I don't expect less than two good episodes for the League, one of which will be an Iwane episode and the other an Oohashi Aito episode. Depending on how close to the end of the series the Alola League takes place it's possible for Yasuda, Yamazaki and Nishiya to also be heavily involved.
     
  7. Epicocity

    Epicocity Well-Known Member

    You realize this is a series where battles aren't the main focus, right? The most complex battle we've had has been Ash vs. Olivia...over 60 episodes ago. For really tense animation, Ash vs. Misty, 50 episodes ago. I think hoping for fantastic battles at this League is something one had best curb their expectations for.
     
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  8. LilligantLewis

    LilligantLewis primarina donna

    I expect the Alola League to go the same as the Unova League, otherwise known as absolute trash.
     
  9. GarchompChain

    GarchompChain Well-Known Member

    Did the animators really complain? Why did the writers decide this outcome then?

    The animation was definitely great at this league. The lack of battles and the ending just make it a Unova level league.
     
  10. LilligantLewis

    LilligantLewis primarina donna

    This league is not even close to a Unova-level league. The last 2 battles are two of the greatest battles in the history of the show. Conversely, Unova was the first league since Indigo to feature NO actual 6on6 battles (Cameron was 6on5), had only one good battle (Ash vs. Stephan), and that good battle doesn't even rank amongst the top tier of 3on3 battles in the history of the show.
     
  11. mehmeh1

    mehmeh1 Neutral force of Meh

    and it will be the best animated episode in the franchise
     
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  12. Yuugis Black Magician

    Yuugis Black Magician Well-Known Member

    Nobody's complained that I've heard of. Series Director Sutou Norihiko and Series Composer Tomioka Atsuhiro and Episode Writer Fujita Shinzou probably decided the Kotetsu battle's outcome as a joke. Satoshi isn't allowed to win and he's spent the entire series making dumb decisions in his battles so having him lose like he did was in-character and a pretty hilarious way for the League to end.
     
  13. mehmeh1

    mehmeh1 Neutral force of Meh

    pretty sure garchompchain was referring to ash vs alain
     
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  14. GarchompChain

    GarchompChain Well-Known Member

    I was
     
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  15. Caseydia

    Caseydia Ace Trainer

    No. The Ash vs. Cameron looked better to be honest with you. It's just the outcome was more worse.
     
  16. Genaller

    Genaller Mein Kaiser

    Yeah when XYZ 38 aired there were members of the animation staff complaining about it on twitter. My main point was that it didn’t seem like the animators put effort into the final scene of Ash vs Alain where MC-X staggers and A-G faints and then being upset about the result could be a possible explanation.
     
  17. Kintaro

    Kintaro Well-Known Member

    I do remember people saying Iwane said on his twitter, "I don't think the main protagonist losing all the time is a good idea" after the Kalos league ended. But I don't know if that's really true or someone just made it up and spread it online. You can probably dig through Iwane's tweets from 2016 to see if it's real.
     
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  18. AuraChannelerChris

    AuraChannelerChris "And just what are you staring at?"

    I'm never getting my hopes up during this saga in particular; the saga that hasn't made Ash look like he deserves to win this league when he had two perfect chances in the past.
     
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  19. LilligantLewis

    LilligantLewis primarina donna

    should be banned from writing league-ending episodes after the fiascoes of the last 2 leagues.
     
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  20. Epicocity

    Epicocity Well-Known Member

    It's not like he's the one that decides whether Ash wins or loses...though I suppose we could argue the way he wrote the Cameron battle was piss-poor.
     
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