They didn't. This scene is all new, made from scratch. Inspired by a scene we saw in the previews for BW23/24, sure, but not actually an edit of that scene.
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Are edited TR vs TP episodes a possibility with the new opening?
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They didn't. This scene is all new, made from scratch. Inspired by a scene we saw in the previews for BW23/24, sure, but not actually an edit of that scene.
playerking
Sick of dealing with idiots.
Regardless of whether it's from scratch or not, its basically the same scene and obviously it's inspired from a scene from one of the TR vs TP episodes.
So yeah, as I said, it's an obvious nod to it and it only has a few minor differences.
AgentPierce
Mad science FTW!
Frankly, there's no way those episodes would be referenced in the opening and it not mean anything about the episodes, especially when so much other stuff in the opening is confirmed to happen in the show. It appears my sources were correct: a retconned TR vs. TP is gonna air in early 2013.....
Pokemaniac24
Banned
I think they're gone for good, at least now we have an arc revolving around Team Plasma and N.
Is that why the opening clearly referenced them?
Maybe they will use that scene in new episodes, I really doubt those episodes will ever air.
Haunter ゴースト
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God even if they're retconned i'm still pissed about how we have a plot hole. Talk about annoying.
They never said anything about retconning.
AgentPierce
Mad science FTW!
I think they're gone for good, at least now we have an arc revolving around Team Plasma and N.
And you don't think those episodes could be moved into that arc? Has everyone forgotten what happened with that fishing episode?
They said specifically that "they will change the scenario, as the episodes will appear in Season 16. They were not deleted, but moved and modified."
Only Cilan was, actually, and how it's shown in the opening is in no way neccesarily how it'll happen in the episodes. If it was, Genesects would be flying around. XD
Most things would stay the same, really. The major things changed would be the color of TR's uniform, dialogue from people like Looker, and (the biggest of all) the Team Plasma grunts.
It's depressing how many people seem to WANT the episodes to stay unaired, so even when indication of them airing happens, the possibility gets denied.
Seriously, if the episodes were really banned/cancelled, WHY reference them in an opening and remind people of them? That would be a DUMB thing to do.
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Haunter ゴースト
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As much as i agree with you, and normally most people speculate/make up things for their own personal favour, this time i don't think retconning is out of the question at all.
Hero of Ideals
Banned
We still have nothing to prove of retconning and really, who cares about those episodes. Ever since those episode were announced, they caused more trouble than BW season 2 and the hype people gave it.
AgentPierce
Mad science FTW!
Except, y'know, the opening that this whole topic is based around.
Alot of people. They're the freaking Holy Grail of Best Wishes at this point.
deoxys4ever
pokeshipper
ofcourse people will be freaking out because charizard and the old team rocket returned and we even got too see muk again.
Pokemaniac24
Banned
What on earth does this have to do with ANYTHING AgentPierce said?
Haunter ゴースト
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Not entirely, but so far we know the temple scene has been reused, the helicopter scene has been reused (most likely in the episodes too) and we know that Looker returns most likely teams up with Team Rocket (they presumably did in TRvsTP).
The entire fandom? They are without a doubt the most anticated episodes of Best Wishes.
Agreed, but the trouble they caused was for a good reason. They looked incredible and everybody wanted to see them. It's unfortunate that a tragic event took place during the time of their original airing.
Interference
Banned
More like the Lost City of Atlantis.
Pokemaniac24
Banned
Is that why we see a scene clearly referencing it in the opening.
Hero of Ideals
Banned
I seen the preview, they are not this big epic change the face of the anime episode, they were just two episode that we only have some detail what happened. And how would we know they live up. I bet you be dissapointed with them, would you?
Cresselia92
SM Ash = New Ash
I really hope that that place is the Black City. There is potential for a chance to redeem Ash after his loss at the League. Ash vs Benga at the Black Tower anyone (especially if he first meets him in Floccesy)?
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