• Be sure to join the discussion on our discord at: Discord.gg/serebii
  • If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail folders

Are you hype for the Masters Tournament? (Yes/No)

Are you hyped for the masters tournament??????????


  • Total voters
    121

Dragonnair

Well-Known Member
Absolutely nothing and yet he's one of the three that is always there which is my point.

No, he uses Cinderace and Inteleon to battle and then once in awhile will throw in one of the others randomly who just end up being KO'd quickly unless they are Golurk for obvious giant reasons.
What does that have to do with the Project Mew episodes? The random captures he makes in episodes has nothing to do with them. He's used Cinderace consistently and Inteleon much more. He's used Flygon in numerous episodes, as well as Dewgong. The plot of each Project Mew ep is also different, some are raid battles against legends, others are collecting a specific item from a pokemon, others are battle tournaments in the wrecked ship in Hoenn, etc.

Again, this Goh Arc is boring to me and Gary being interested in Mew doesn't really mean much to me either. If this had been an arc of Ash and Gary researching something together maybe I would care but as of right now, Goh jacking rivals of Ash's when they have all these random ass characters they could have used instead is lame to me.
What you're saying makes no sense, "Go jacking rivals" means Gary is getting the best role he ever had since the Kanto saga. Who cares if the writers treat him as Go's rival? Gary is battling legendaries (Moltres, Articuno, Regi's), using all his classic pokemon in battle like Blastoise, Umbreon, Arcanine, Electrivire and we're seeing him with new pokemon like Hatterene, etc.

This is the best role Gary has ever had in the series since Kanto, since in both Johto and DP he barely appeared and didn't get much focus to himself when he did show up. His development this series is also natural progression for him.
 

1rkhachatryan

Call me Robert guys
What does that have to do with the Project Mew episodes? The random captures he makes in episodes has nothing to do with them. He's used Cinderace consistently and Inteleon much more. He's used Flygon in numerous episodes, as well as Dewgong. The plot of each Project Mew ep is also different, some are raid battles against legends, others are collecting a specific item from a pokemon, others are battle tournaments in the wrecked ship in Hoenn, etc.


What you're saying makes no sense, "Go jacking rivals" means Gary is getting the best role he ever had since the Kanto saga. Who cares if the writers treat him as Go's rival? Gary is battling legendaries (Moltres, Articuno, Regi's), using all his classic pokemon in battle like Blastoise, Umbreon, Arcanine, Electrivire and we're seeing him with new pokemon like Hatterene, etc.

This is the best role Gary has ever had in the series since Kanto, since in both Johto and DP he barely appeared and didn't get much focus to himself when he did show up. His development this series is also natural progression for him.
No you said he's been using his pokemon effectively which is crap. He has over a 100 pokemon and maybe uses less then 10 consistently effectively and ignores all the rest lol.

Again, the episodes have been boring to me because Goh's goal is stupid and the execution has been horrible. His pokemon are pretty much robots with no personality and even the ones he bonded with like Cubone went on to be forgotten completely. Outside of the main 3 and on occasion one of the others who serve a purpose like floatation device or flier, they are completely devoid of anything interesting.

I care that they pawned off one of Ash's most Iconic rivals onto Goh for literally no logical reason. Goh has a rival, Goh has all those side characters they introduced for this arc, Gary wasn't needed.

There could have been such an impactful arc with Gary helping Ash train and prepare for the tournament while reflecting on their journeys and Ash helping Gary research something he's passionate about but no instead they tacked him onto Goh's stupid goal which shouldn't even be a thing in the first place.
 

UnovaMaster

Well-Known Member
No you said he's been using his pokemon effectively which is crap. He has over a 100 pokemon and maybe uses less then 10 consistently effectively and ignores all the rest lol.

Again, the episodes have been boring to me because Goh's goal is stupid and the execution has been horrible. His pokemon are pretty much robots with no personality and even the ones he bonded with like Cubone went on to be forgotten completely. Outside of the main 3 and on occasion one of the others who serve a purpose like floatation device or flier, they are completely devoid of anything interesting.

I care that they pawned off one of Ash's most Iconic rivals onto Goh for literally no logical reason. Goh has a rival, Goh has all those side characters they introduced for this arc, Gary wasn't needed.

There could have been such an impactful arc with Gary helping Ash train and prepare for the tournament while reflecting on their journeys and Ash helping Gary research something he's passionate about but no instead they tacked him onto Goh's stupid goal which shouldn't even be a thing in the first place.

Why is your favorite Pokemon a Pokemon whose soul does not reflect your own?
 

1rkhachatryan

Call me Robert guys
Why is your favorite Pokemon a Pokemon whose soul does not reflect your own?

Lmfao mine and Cyndaquil's souls are just fine thank you, not liking Goh doesn't make me a bad person. Just cuz Goh's your lord and savior, doesn't mean the rest of us have to like him.

I look forward to your angry react ;)...
 

Kuzehiko

MAY you one day come back ~
Nope
I expected more and exciting battles.
And they give us Alain vs Leon, and Cynthia vs Iris whose winner is very obvious. Also it'll be short as heck. They could've given us a Round Robin at least but it will just be 3 rounds. Also no reserves yet again.
 

Evstike

We lost...
Tournament arcs never really interested me but this is better than the 1v1 matchups I expected until Ash vs Leon so I'm not let down at least. Is it wrong that I just don't care for the lack of reserves or Alain returning just to prop up Leon as the ultimate Charizard trainer? Alain is my favourite character in this franchise by a long shot and I just don't feel anything. I think the matchups we got were the best possible outcome objectively. We could have gotten battles with more personal stakes likes Alain or Iris vs Ash but we've seen those before and a revenge match against Alain wouldn't have been gratifying without Greninja. What's been shown in the previews looks alright I guess so it's whatever.
 

Dragonnair

Well-Known Member
I care that they pawned off one of Ash's most Iconic rivals onto Goh for literally no logical reason. Goh has a rival, Goh has all those side characters they introduced for this arc, Gary wasn't needed.

There could have been such an impactful arc with Gary helping Ash train and prepare for the tournament while reflecting on their journeys and Ash helping Gary research something he's passionate about but no instead they tacked him onto Goh's stupid goal which shouldn't even be a thing in the first place.
That still literally has nothing to do with Gary or Go's goal, which isn't just capturing Pokemon. They've had consistently good episodes for awhile now focused on raid battles or battle tournaments.

Also why on earth are you so bothered Gary is part of Go's rival? His role on the show had been done for 20 years and he even barely appeared in DP. Gary's role is basically his development as a researcher and as I mentioned, he's using all his original pokemon, battling legendaries and being involved in the plot. The fact that some of you are so shallow that you try to downplay Gary's best role in the show in literally 20 years because he's part of Go's goal is ridiculous. "Gary's research he's passionate about" is literally what he's doing. The fact that you can't comprehend that Gary is doing exactly what he should be. Your loss, I guess.
 

1rkhachatryan

Call me Robert guys
That still literally has nothing to do with Gary or Go's goal, which isn't just capturing Pokemon. They've had consistently good episodes for awhile now focused on raid battles or battle tournaments.

Also why on earth are you so bothered Gary is part of Go's rival? His role on the show had been done for 20 years and he even barely appeared in DP. Gary's role is basically his development as a researcher and as I mentioned, he's using all his original pokemon, battling legendaries and being involved in the plot. The fact that some of you are so shallow that you try to downplay Gary's best role in the show in literally 20 years because he's part of Go's goal is ridiculous. "Gary's research he's passionate about" is literally what he's doing. The fact that you can't comprehend that Gary is doing exactly what he should be. Your loss, I guess.

Goh's goal is LITERALLY just catching pokemon. His goal is literally to catch all pokemon and catch Mew lol.

I've literally explained like twice now why I'm mad that Gary is Goh's rival. I don't want Goh to be involved with Gary at all. If they had established Gary as Goh's rival from the beginning of the series maybe it would be better but they just tacked him on 70 episodes into the series out of literally nowhere.

I wanted Gary to be apart of Ash's journey, not Goh's, I've been very clear on this from the jump.
 

Dragonnair

Well-Known Member
Goh's goal is LITERALLY just catching pokemon. His goal is literally to catch all pokemon and catch Mew lol.

Those aren't the Project Mew eps. I'm not talking about the random fillers he captures a pokemon in.

I've literally explained like twice now why I'm mad that Gary is Goh's rival. I don't want Goh to be involved with Gary at all. If they had established Gary as Goh's rival from the beginning of the series maybe it would be better but they just tacked him on 70 episodes into the series out of literally nowhere.

I wanted Gary to be apart of Ash's journey, not Goh's, I've been very clear on this from the jump.
What you're saying makes no sense, since Gary and Ash battled Moltres together (and double teamed it with Pikachu/Electrivire), Articuno together, and Gary is also showing off all his classic Pokemon like Blastoise, Umbreon, Arcanine, etc. Gary would be doing the same thing whether he was part of Go's goal or not.

Gary's role with Ash was done, that's why he also barely did anything in DP. He appeared briefly to give Gligar a Razor Fang to evolve, had a small cameo in the Galactic finale, but otherwise Gary's role in DP was so small (he only appeared in 3 episodes), he might as well have not have been in it at all. Seeing Gary involved in the plot and battling legendaries alongside Ash and his companion is something I never thought we'd see. The fact that Gary is also getting development as a researcher and isn't just stagnant or depowered is also great.
 

UnovaMaster

Well-Known Member
Goh's goal is LITERALLY just catching pokemon. His goal is literally to catch all pokemon and catch Mew lol.

I've literally explained like twice now why I'm mad that Gary is Goh's rival. I don't want Goh to be involved with Gary at all. If they had established Gary as Goh's rival from the beginning of the series maybe it would be better but they just tacked him on 70 episodes into the series out of literally nowhere.

I wanted Gary to be apart of Ash's journey, not Goh's, I've been very clear on this from the jump.

I hope Goh catches a Cyndaquil
 

1rkhachatryan

Call me Robert guys
Those aren't the Project Mew eps. I'm not talking about the random fillers he captures a pokemon in.


What you're saying makes no sense, since Gary and Ash battled Moltres together (and double teamed it with Pikachu/Electrivire), Articuno together, and Gary is also showing off all his classic Pokemon like Blastoise, Umbreon, Arcanine, etc. Gary would be doing the same thing whether he was part of Go's goal or not.

Gary's role with Ash was done, that's why he also barely did anything in DP. He appeared briefly to give Gligar a Razor Fang to evolve, had a small cameo in the Galactic finale, but otherwise Gary's role in DP was so small (he only appeared in 3 episodes), he might as well have not have been in it at all. Seeing Gary involved in the plot and battling legendaries alongside Ash and his companion is something I never thought we'd see. The fact that Gary is also getting development as a researcher and isn't just stagnant or depowered is also great.
I'm sorry are you under the impression that this project mew crap is a seperate goal?! No, his goal is to get Mew and that's why he's doing all this crap because the chance of him finding Mew alone is slim but with all those other people it rises. Whether it is him catching random pokemon or going on a mission, it's still part of the same stupid goal lol.

No it makes plenty of sense, I want him to do all that stuff with Ash, not with Goh, it's pretty simple.
I hope Goh catches a Cyndaquil
Hahahahahahahahahahaha you really thought you did something here didn't you?? Newsflash, Goh is dead to me lol. He can catch Arceus tomorrow for all I give a ****. In fact let him get 30 Cyndaquil like Ash has with Tauros, it wouldn't make a lick of difference for me ;).
 

Dragonnair

Well-Known Member
I'm sorry are you under the impression that this project mew crap is a seperate goal?! No, his goal is to get Mew and that's why he's doing all this crap because the chance of him finding Mew alone is slim but with all those other people it rises. Whether it is him catching random pokemon or going on a mission, it's still part of the same stupid goal lol.
What on earth are you even talking about? The Project Mew stuff is about earning tokens and performing tasks. Him capturing Pokemon is just something Go is doing on his own. Literally the last two Project Mew eps were about Go battling trainers in a sudden death match of 1 on 1 battles, and going with Gary to solve the mystery's of the Regi's to battle and capture them in a tag team. Before that it was about getting Volcarona's spores or a Moltres flame feather.

Either way this is all giving Gary the best focus in terms of character and battling he's had in...ever?

No it makes plenty of sense, I want him to do all that stuff with Ash, not with Goh, it's pretty simple.
He did do all that stuff with Ash though, do you even read? Gary and Ash literally tag teamed Moltres and Articuno together. Gary and Ash did a double thunderbolt with their electric pokemon. He's also naturally researching Pokemon as an extension of his character. The only solo stuff Gary did with Go is the Regi quest which is fine.
 

1rkhachatryan

Call me Robert guys
What on earth are you even talking about? The Project Mew stuff is about earning tokens and performing tasks. Him capturing Pokemon is just something Go is doing on his own. Literally the last two Project Mew eps were about Go battling trainers in a sudden death match of 1 on 1 battles, and going with Gary to solve the mystery's of the Regi's to battle and capture them in a tag team. Before that it was about getting Volcarona's spores or a Moltres flame feather.

Either way this is all giving Gary the best focus in terms of character and battling he's had in...ever?


He did do all that stuff with Ash though, do you even read? Gary and Ash literally tag teamed Moltres and Articuno together. Gary and Ash did a double thunderbolt with their electric pokemon. He's also naturally researching Pokemon as an extension of his character. The only solo stuff Gary did with Go is the Regi quest which is fine.
Actually tbh the Mew stuff is his secondary goal lol. His dream is to catch every pokemon so those filler captures are more along his dream then the Mew stuff.

I don't want Goh involved at all, I don't know how many more ways I can say this. I want Ash and Gary to do stuff ON THEIR OWN away from Goh just like Goh is apparently allowed to do stuff without Ash.
 

1rkhachatryan

Call me Robert guys
Wait wasn’t it reversed?
I don't think so. I believe his goal is to catch Mew but his dream is to catch every pokemon. I think it's like how Ash's goal is to battle Leon and win but his dream is pokemon master.
 

Ignition

World’s biggest Incineroar stan
Kind of. I’ll mostly likely get to see Ash battle my favorite Champions (Cynthia and Leon) but I found a lot of Journeys’s previous battles to be mediocre and admittedly it’s hard for me to get invested with this team alone taking on Champions. Maybe the upcoming episode will change my mind but for now I’m in the middle
lol
 

Dragonnair

Well-Known Member
Actually tbh the Mew stuff is his secondary goal lol. His dream is to catch every pokemon so those filler captures are more along his dream then the Mew stuff.

I don't want Goh involved at all, I don't know how many more ways I can say this. I want Ash and Gary to do stuff ON THEIR OWN away from Goh just like Goh is apparently allowed to do stuff without Ash.
That's exactly what Gary's role is, you're just seemingly bothered by Go. I also don't know why you keep bringing up the fillers where Go captures a pokemon, those are not the Project Mew missions. You literally seem to not comprehend his catching goal and the Project Mew missions are two different things.

And Gary and Ash have had a lot of focus together too.
 
Top