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pkmn^master

Guest
Why is the articuno who has been befriended by Noland is so much smaller than when it was in The power of one. I thought there was only one articuno. The size and power of the articuno in the power of one is much more realistic. That is if you saw the size of zapdos and moltrez compared to ash and the rest when they were trapped. It is very unlikely that ash's charizard is going to defeat articuno straight up.
 

Joe

Lost Fan #4815162342
Anime spoilers for a reason. >_>

And there can be more than one of a type of legendary. Remember baby Lugia and it's mother? [spoil]Noland's[/spoil] was a different Articuno.
 
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Satoshi

リーリエの為に戦ってるトレーナー
pkmn^master said:
Why is the articuno who has been befriended by Noland is so much smaller than when it was in The power of one.
Freezer from movie 2 =/= Freezer from [SPOIL]Battle Frontier[/SPOIL]
I thought there was only one articuno.
Only in the games, in the anime, Freezer(s) lay eggs on mountiontops. (As reference to that Jouto episode)

The size and power of the articuno in the power of one is much more realistic. That is if you saw the size of zapdos and moltrez compared to ash and the rest when they were trapped. It is very unlikely that ash's charizard is going to defeat articuno straight up.

The Freezer in Revelation Lugia was the "great daddy" of Freezers, so it's power is bound to be more powerful than Freezer in the [SPOIL]Battle Frontier[/SPOIL]. And remember, Satoshi's Lizardon faired well against the Entei in the 3th movie, so if it can do that, than it could certainly [SPOIL]beat[/SPOIL] a regular Freezer. o_O
 
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blaze boy

Aka SamuraiDon
Satoshi said:
Freezer from movie 2 =/= Freezer from [SPOIL]Battle Frontier[/SPOIL]

Only in the games, in the anime, Freezer(s) lay eggs on mountiontops. (As reference to that Jouto episode)



The Freezer in Revelation Lugia was the "great daddy" of Freezers, so it's power is bound to be more powerful than Freezer in the [SPOIL]Battle Frontier[/SPOIL]. And remember, Satoshi's Lizardon faired well against the Entei in the 3th movie, so if it can do that, than it could certainly [SPOIL]beat[/SPOIL] a regular Freezer. o_O

yeah and that why some people hate charizard cos it is uber in the cartoon. Same goes to pikachu.

Entei in the 3rd movie wasn't the real thing so the battle was unfair.
 

CyberCubed

Yeah, ok!
We've seen 3 Articuno in the series, the one from the 2nd movie, the one that Todd wanted to take a picture of in Johto, and [SPOIL]Noland's [/SPOIL] Articuno.

This shouldn't be such a shock.
 

blaze boy

Aka SamuraiDon
Also I can get three Articuno by doing the following:

1) Game shark
2) restarting FR/LG/XD so many time that the PC is full of them.
3) Trading from friend.

also the cartoon tend to break rule so this is nothing new.
 
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Geki

Guest
The animation is much better now then back then, and before the animators didn't care much for size and feautures and stuff, thus making Articuno way larger then normal in the 2nd movie. BTW, ever here of anime spoilers?
 
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pkmn^master

Guest
its not way larger in the movie, tahts how it should be. its a legendary pokemon so they should be bigger and stronger than normal ones... it makes sence. it would also make more sence if there was only one of each kind of legendary, like the legendary dogs
 
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Confused no more

Guest
Well, if you look at it, the dogs are the essences of nature (or something like that), but the birds are just regular animals like the rest. The only difference is that they're beefed up...
 

Magus

Fog Trainer
Remember what happened when Moltres and Zapdos were captured in the 2nd movie? The Legendary Birds are just as much "essences of nature" as the Dogs are.

I'm also pretty sure I remember Lawrence III saying that there's only one each of Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres. Of course, he seems to have thought there was only one Lugia too, so I guess we can take that with a grain of salt.
 
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Confused no more

Guest
Magus said:
Remember what happened when Moltres and Zapdos were captured in the 2nd movie? The Legendary Birds are just as much "essences of nature" as the Dogs are.

I'm also pretty sure I remember Lawrence III saying that there's only one each of Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres. Of course, he seems to have thought there was only one Lugia too, so I guess we can take that with a grain of salt.

If you look into it, the dogs are literally the essences of nature incarnate, the birds just happen to control some of nature's power...But they are real creatures...In the game, it said that the dogs were dead, rut ressurected by Ho-oh with the power of nature, but the birds are alive...

Oh, and if you look at Articuno's size in the Pokedex, it's about the size it was in the BF anyways...They just wanted an overwhelming influence when they made a super-sized bird in the power of one...
 

JazzJazz

Well-Known Member
Magus said:
I'm also pretty sure I remember Lawrence III saying that there's only one each of Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres. Of course, he seems to have thought there was only one Lugia too, so I guess we can take that with a grain of salt.

Either a bit of sodium chloride (as you suggest) or just another anime inconsistency to toss onto the fire...
 

Andyhaunt

Cascade Trainer
Look at the size of Ash´s Snorlax in the early epidodes, it was HUGANTIC, and recently in the battle against greta, it was just a little bit bigger than Medichem. I remember that in the Clair epidose, when Snorlax beats Kingdra, Ash goes to hug him and the difference between sizes is enormous, and look at its Size in the Battle Arena, we just have a Pigmy Snorlax. The point is that the writers tend to forget the proportions of the sizes. I don`t think its a different Articuno, cause I`ve never seen two Articunos at the same time in the Anime, It could perfectly be the same Articuno from Johto and from Shamouti. And Articuno in the Power of One was just shooting Ice Beam over Ice Beam over Ice Beam, I would not call that "More Powerful". And if Charizard could beat it it was because its hard trainer, and another important factor, its type adventage.

There´s no anime inconsistency in the fact that there are only one of the trio of birds, cause as I said before I´ve never seen more than one at the same time. You could say that about Lugia, and also about Lati@s, but not with the birds. Lawrence clearly said that
 

mannyguy

Cascade Trainer
we've seen 2 zapdos, 3 articunos, 3 lugias, multiple celebies, multiple latios/latias ....so obviously the title of legendary does not imply "ONLY ONE"

and since the beggining we have seen overgrown pokemon, and pigmy pokemon..so i mean come on its common sense
 
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ghost master

the kawaiist thing
we've seen 2 zapdos, 3 articunos, 3 lugias, multiple celebies, multiple latios/latias ....so obviously the title of legendary does not imply "ONLY ONE"
Actually the title legendary is only one because there is only one pokemon with the legend. The power of one Articuno was legendary. The other Articuno was just a rare, endangered pokemon.
 

Magus

Fog Trainer
In some of those cases, we didn't see the "different" examples of particular Legendary together, so we don't know whether they're the same one. I mean, we've seen Ho-oh twice, but certainly nobody claims it was two different Ho-ohs.

Also, it's quite possible for every Celebi to be the same one. As a time traveller, it's even possible for Celebi to be in multiple places simultaneously.
 

Andyhaunt

Cascade Trainer
Magus said:
In some of those cases, we didn't see the "different" examples of particular Legendary together, so we don't know whether they're the same one. I mean, we've seen Ho-oh twice, but certainly nobody claims it was two different Ho-ohs.

Also, it's quite possible for every Celebi to be the same one. As a time traveller, it's even possible for Celebi to be in multiple places simultaneously.

Exactly

Nobody has any proof about the fact of the trio of birds being "only one" or being many of them. Articuno could perfectly be the same one in the movie, in the frontier and in Johto.
About Latios and Latias, it is clearly seen that there are many of them. Visual prooves.

And about what Lawrence said, it is actually a verbal proof that they are "only one" of their species.
 

JazzJazz

Well-Known Member
Andyhaunt said:
And about what Lawrence said, it is actually a verbal proof that they are "only one" of their species.

Again, just another of the inconsistencies that pop up in the anime from time to time... pay it no heed.
 

intergalactic platypus

Only rescues maidens
the franchise likes to condradict itself when it comes to legendaries. at times it seems as if theyre special and exclusive, like when they explained ho-ohs role it was implied there was only one. other times however, like in that horribly boring (IMO) lugia miniarc, theyll go and say "well this legendary can actually reproduce and theres multiple of them". dont expect consistency when it comes to legends and their role in the anime
 
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