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As all of you know, Bond Phenomenon (BP) is the name given to the transformation that Ash’s Greninja underwent when the bond between him and Ash became strong enough and was perfected when Ash and Greninja both got on the same page via their mutual love for Pokémon. What I’m interested in discussing on this thread is the actual mechanics of the form (a.k.a how it works) since the anime doesn’t directly tell us much beyond “they have shared sensations”.
Let’s get into more detail regarding this. Ash and A-G are able to share their vision with each other which allows Ash to get a more in-depth view of A-G’s environment thereby allowing him to command A-G more optimally (this is best illustrated in XYZ 28 when Ash is commanding A-G on how to outmaneuver the incoming obstacles during the rescue scene and in XYZ 35 when Ash is seemingly directing A-G’s body in outmaneuvering Mega Sceptile’s Frenzy Plant). In XYZ 46 we get confirmation that the shared vision quality remains even when Ash and A-G aren’t in the direct vicinity of each other.
Speaking of XYZ 46 we also see that Ash can essentially have long distance phone calls with A-G which is best explained by their hearing also being in sync. A question that many would have here is “why doesn’t Ash command A-G telepathically?”. I admit that personally I would’ve found it really cool if that happened though there’s a pretty simple explanation for it; Ash is used to commanding all of his Pokémon verbally hence he does the same with A-G most of the time out of habit though it is worth noting that there are a few instances where Ash subconsciously directs A-G’s movements like when A-G was dodging Mega Sceptile’s Frenzy Plant (this is illustrated symbolically by having a silhouette of Ash appear beside A-G making the same movements as him) indicating that with training he could learn to telepathically direct A-G more naturally.
Now regarding Ash mimicking A-G’s movements another question arises; under what circumstances will Ash and will Ash not preform the same actions as A-G? This is how you can think about it. There are a set of actions that Ash can perform and a set of actions that A-G can perform. If A-G performs a given action for which Ash is capable of performing an equivalent corresponding action (e.g. the movements during the set up of Water Shuriken as shown while he was battling Diantha’s Mega Gardevoir in Veil form), then Ash will perform that action; however, if A-G preforms a given action for which Ash is incapable of performing a corresponding equivalent action (e.g. actually creating the Water Shuriken in the previous example since Ash is not a Pokémon), then Ash will simply do nothing. This explains why we don’t see Ash move at A-G’s incredible speeds or why Ash doesn’t do the high jumps or back flips that A-G does in battle; Ash simply didn’t have the physical capabilities to do so. Bascially when A-G performs an action, signals are sent from A-G’s brain to Ash’s brain; if Ash’s brain believes Ash is capable of performing this action then it let's Ash do so whereas if it doesn’t then it just gives the default action as an output a.k.a Ash does nothing. I would presume that the converse of this should also be true.
Finally let’s discuss the pain mechanic. It does seem like Ash and A-G share the same pain with Ash looking visibly hurt when the pain is especially bad though it is worth noting that Ash’s pain thresholds increase with time as we see him explicitly training himself alongside Greninja so that he can better handle A-G’s pain. What’s particularly worth noting is that the A-G transformation is undone right before Greninja is KOed as a fail-safe measure in order to prevent Ash from also getting “knocked out”. A natural question that arises is that if Ash is affected by the battle damage A-G takes, then would Ash also be affected by any status condition that A-G gets affected with? The surprise answer is yes! We do know that status conditions work on humans, so it would stand to reason that Ash is capable of feeling the effects of status conditions in particular:
— Sleep -> Ash also falls asleep while Greninja is affected
— Poison -> Ash feels momentarily unwell at periodic intervals
— Paralysis -> Ash finds it more difficult to move at times
— Burn -> Ash’s body temperature has momentary spikes at periodic intervals
— Freeze -> Ash’s body temperature drastically decreases while A-G is affected
— Confusion -> Ash also gets confused while A-G is affected
Now it does seem like status conditions are A-G’s secret biggest weakness though I’m certain that he can counter at least half of these ailments. For Sleep we know that there’s a small window of time between when a Pokémon is affected with the condition and when the Pokémon actually falls asleep. From the Viola battle we know that the pain from causing damage to your head during this interval can prevent you from falling asleep (though of course this interval varies from Pokémon to Pokémon and you would presumably need a really strong will like Ash’s Pikachu for the interval to be ‘long enough’ such that you can successfully use a move on your head). Bascially the moment A-G would get affected, Ash would (either directly or subconsciously) have A-G quickly smack his head with Cut or Aerial Ace to prevent Sleep.
For Freeze we’ve actually seen Base Greninja break out of it with little effort (vs Wulfric’s Abamasnow), so Ash-Greninja backed up by Ash’s incredible will power (which has helped Pikachu get out of Freeze in the past) should have no trouble breaking out of this condition whatsoever (at most it might lead to a minor time delay in A-G’s next move which may or may not give the opponent an openning depending on how competent they are).
For Confusion Ash has shown that through ‘bond power’ he can break his Pokémon out of this condition (namely Charizard and Bulbasaur), and while it did take a bit of time in these cases (during which Ash reminded both of them just how strong their bond with him was), since Ash and Greninja’s feelings are always connected while Greninja is in the A-G state (a.k.a Ash and Greninja can quite literally tell each other “I know what you’re feeling bro”), it would be far easier for A-G to break out of Confusion.
That leaves Burn, Paralysis and Poison for which it’d honestly be quite interesting to see whether Ash could ‘break’ Greninja free from these ailments (you can’t do this without using a special move like Refresh or Heal Bell in the games) or if not then it’d be interesting to see how Ash deals with the corresponding handicaps to his physical condition.
That covers my thoughts on this matter till date. Let me know if you disagree with any of my explanations or think that there are still certain aspects regarding the mechanics of Bond Phenomenon that I’ve failed to address in this post. Also as a fun bonus question what do you think would happen to Ash if A-G gets affected by a status condition?
Let’s get into more detail regarding this. Ash and A-G are able to share their vision with each other which allows Ash to get a more in-depth view of A-G’s environment thereby allowing him to command A-G more optimally (this is best illustrated in XYZ 28 when Ash is commanding A-G on how to outmaneuver the incoming obstacles during the rescue scene and in XYZ 35 when Ash is seemingly directing A-G’s body in outmaneuvering Mega Sceptile’s Frenzy Plant). In XYZ 46 we get confirmation that the shared vision quality remains even when Ash and A-G aren’t in the direct vicinity of each other.
Speaking of XYZ 46 we also see that Ash can essentially have long distance phone calls with A-G which is best explained by their hearing also being in sync. A question that many would have here is “why doesn’t Ash command A-G telepathically?”. I admit that personally I would’ve found it really cool if that happened though there’s a pretty simple explanation for it; Ash is used to commanding all of his Pokémon verbally hence he does the same with A-G most of the time out of habit though it is worth noting that there are a few instances where Ash subconsciously directs A-G’s movements like when A-G was dodging Mega Sceptile’s Frenzy Plant (this is illustrated symbolically by having a silhouette of Ash appear beside A-G making the same movements as him) indicating that with training he could learn to telepathically direct A-G more naturally.
Now regarding Ash mimicking A-G’s movements another question arises; under what circumstances will Ash and will Ash not preform the same actions as A-G? This is how you can think about it. There are a set of actions that Ash can perform and a set of actions that A-G can perform. If A-G performs a given action for which Ash is capable of performing an equivalent corresponding action (e.g. the movements during the set up of Water Shuriken as shown while he was battling Diantha’s Mega Gardevoir in Veil form), then Ash will perform that action; however, if A-G preforms a given action for which Ash is incapable of performing a corresponding equivalent action (e.g. actually creating the Water Shuriken in the previous example since Ash is not a Pokémon), then Ash will simply do nothing. This explains why we don’t see Ash move at A-G’s incredible speeds or why Ash doesn’t do the high jumps or back flips that A-G does in battle; Ash simply didn’t have the physical capabilities to do so. Bascially when A-G performs an action, signals are sent from A-G’s brain to Ash’s brain; if Ash’s brain believes Ash is capable of performing this action then it let's Ash do so whereas if it doesn’t then it just gives the default action as an output a.k.a Ash does nothing. I would presume that the converse of this should also be true.
Finally let’s discuss the pain mechanic. It does seem like Ash and A-G share the same pain with Ash looking visibly hurt when the pain is especially bad though it is worth noting that Ash’s pain thresholds increase with time as we see him explicitly training himself alongside Greninja so that he can better handle A-G’s pain. What’s particularly worth noting is that the A-G transformation is undone right before Greninja is KOed as a fail-safe measure in order to prevent Ash from also getting “knocked out”. A natural question that arises is that if Ash is affected by the battle damage A-G takes, then would Ash also be affected by any status condition that A-G gets affected with? The surprise answer is yes! We do know that status conditions work on humans, so it would stand to reason that Ash is capable of feeling the effects of status conditions in particular:
— Sleep -> Ash also falls asleep while Greninja is affected
— Poison -> Ash feels momentarily unwell at periodic intervals
— Paralysis -> Ash finds it more difficult to move at times
— Burn -> Ash’s body temperature has momentary spikes at periodic intervals
— Freeze -> Ash’s body temperature drastically decreases while A-G is affected
— Confusion -> Ash also gets confused while A-G is affected
Now it does seem like status conditions are A-G’s secret biggest weakness though I’m certain that he can counter at least half of these ailments. For Sleep we know that there’s a small window of time between when a Pokémon is affected with the condition and when the Pokémon actually falls asleep. From the Viola battle we know that the pain from causing damage to your head during this interval can prevent you from falling asleep (though of course this interval varies from Pokémon to Pokémon and you would presumably need a really strong will like Ash’s Pikachu for the interval to be ‘long enough’ such that you can successfully use a move on your head). Bascially the moment A-G would get affected, Ash would (either directly or subconsciously) have A-G quickly smack his head with Cut or Aerial Ace to prevent Sleep.
For Freeze we’ve actually seen Base Greninja break out of it with little effort (vs Wulfric’s Abamasnow), so Ash-Greninja backed up by Ash’s incredible will power (which has helped Pikachu get out of Freeze in the past) should have no trouble breaking out of this condition whatsoever (at most it might lead to a minor time delay in A-G’s next move which may or may not give the opponent an openning depending on how competent they are).
For Confusion Ash has shown that through ‘bond power’ he can break his Pokémon out of this condition (namely Charizard and Bulbasaur), and while it did take a bit of time in these cases (during which Ash reminded both of them just how strong their bond with him was), since Ash and Greninja’s feelings are always connected while Greninja is in the A-G state (a.k.a Ash and Greninja can quite literally tell each other “I know what you’re feeling bro”), it would be far easier for A-G to break out of Confusion.
That leaves Burn, Paralysis and Poison for which it’d honestly be quite interesting to see whether Ash could ‘break’ Greninja free from these ailments (you can’t do this without using a special move like Refresh or Heal Bell in the games) or if not then it’d be interesting to see how Ash deals with the corresponding handicaps to his physical condition.
That covers my thoughts on this matter till date. Let me know if you disagree with any of my explanations or think that there are still certain aspects regarding the mechanics of Bond Phenomenon that I’ve failed to address in this post. Also as a fun bonus question what do you think would happen to Ash if A-G gets affected by a status condition?
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. I think if there were a successful alteration in Ash and/or Greninja’s mental state (e.g. Ash’s brain got taken over by the King of Pokelantis) then BP should terminate since a prerequisite for activating that form is for Ash and Greninja to be on the same page. What I’m not sure about is whether they’d be able to prevent such things via bond power like how they were able to negate the effects of that ME energy device that Lysandre tried using to control them in a manner similar to how he was controlling Zygarde at the time.
