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Ash sucks

Discussion in 'Pokémon Animé Discussion' started by Zweet, Oct 29, 2008.

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  1. Zweet

    Zweet Well-Known Member

    Let's be honest. Look how Ash do as a trainer:

    He has travelled through 4 regions (Kanto, Orange, Johto, Hoenn) and is currently travelling through Orre, his fifth region... And how many Pokémon have he caught? Well, he got 51 Pokémons, but 30 of them are Tauroses...!

    And he gets rid of his powerful Pokémons all the time! Charizard, Squirtle, Beedrill, Pidgeot, Primeape, Haunter, Butterfree, Lapras... Of course, he had different reasons to do so, but he would have been twice the trainer he is now, if...

    No, he wouldn't. Cause he would just leave them at Oak's lab and catch a few new weaklings to train! Sceptile, Donphan, Swellow, Glalie, Bayleef, Bulbasaur... Why? Why do he insist on leaving all those powerhouses at Oak's lab, and not use them to be succesfull as a trainer?

    Cause he sucks. Ash can't train Pokémon. Ash can't battle. Ash sucks.
     
  2. Glacier99

    Glacier99 Ice cold...

    Since when is he travelling through Orre?
     
  3. treespyro

    treespyro Vintage much?

    Your Point being

    He is just a fictional character, Leave it alone
     
  4. Zweet

    Zweet Well-Known Member

    I meant the fifth region

    Oh, and yeah, he is fictional. But still incredibly stupid.
     
  5. treespyro

    treespyro Vintage much?

    Same as any main character in a Show, It is a Cliche
     
  6. Dusk

    Dusk Dawn

    *Sighs*

    The writers give Ash new Pokemon every region to promote the show and get more viewers.

    The writers don't care about what you think, all the care about is their filthy $$$.
     
  7. Zweet

    Zweet Well-Known Member

    I know, but Ash will never be champ in this way. Through it would be SERIOUSLY cool if his old Pokémons, like Pidgeot, Butterfree, Primeape, Lapras etc. would join him in his last league battle...
     
  8. Dusk

    Dusk Dawn

    If the writers want him to win, he'll win. If the writers want Ash to beat Mewtwo with a Magikarp, he will. Simple as that.
     
  9. Sonic Boom

    Sonic Boom @JohanSSB4 Twitter

    Ash will become the master when the show ends, in the next 20 years or so...

    And many protagonists in shonen anime are reckless single-minded idiots. Fact of life.
     
  10. Mickydv

    Mickydv New Member

    I think that the writers want to learn all fans a lesson. When he loses a league, he is starting over from point 0. I think they mean, when you make a fault or mistake, try to do it better next time. It's isn't just a serie what stands for winning only.
     
  11. Jaguar297

    Jaguar297 I'm back!

    Well ah needs better pokémon anyways. I agree with Zweet. Ash sucks. I bet Brock became Suckish because he hangs around with ash all the time!^^
     
  12. randomspot555

    randomspot555 Well-Known Member

    You're kidding yourself if you think Butterfree and Pidgeot are some of his strongest Pokemon.

    EDIT: Pokemon is cyclical! News at 11.
     
  13. lvl 100 Charizard

    lvl 100 Charizard Well-Known Member

    I agree. I mean, how could his pikachu hold back all three regis then lose to a staravia of a much lower level when the yellow rat had more training under its belt? the writers can do whatever the hell they want, even if they contradict themselves. Simple as.
     
  14. DarkDragonite.

    DarkDragonite. Well-Known Member

    I agree with you that Ash started down the path of failure as soon as he began abandoning his strongest pokes. He invests all this time into training these pokemon like Charizard, Sceptile etc just so he can randomly "box" them away. This flaw in the show is to big to ignore imo. The anime makers obviously wanted ash to showcase new pokemon from the new generations however in doing so they turned him into an awful trainer who trains a team of six, fails to win, gets another 6, fails to win, rinse and repeat. And not to mention he is nowhere near completing his dex. We need a new Protagonist who displays all the characteristics of a master(Large Dex, Strong Pokemon, Wins the battles that matter).
     
  15. Maruno

    Maruno Well-Known Member

    It's because the show is all about friendship and being partners with your captured animals, not about collecting them for the sake of having one of that species.

    Besides, I don't think there's ever been evidence that a trainer's Pokédex is empty at the start and needs to be filled in. I remember in the episode where Togepi hatched that Ash's Pokédex has to be updated to recognise it, proving that trainers aren't the ones to write the entries.

    And there's no such thing as a "strong" pokémon in the anime anyway - it's all about the plot. As Dusk says above, if a Magikarp needs to win, then it'll win. So saying Ash boxes/releases his strongest pokémon is a bit meaningless, because as every little kiddie is told, every underdog always wins in the end.
     
  16. Why did he catch 30 stinikin Toroses. Yeah and he keeps ditching all his good guys to get sucky ones. And yeah he should have more than like 20 in his pokedex. I agree with darkdragonite.
     
  17. mewfan1

    mewfan1 Well-Known Member

    Ash: Magikarp, use Splash!
    *Magikarp uses Splash*
    Mewtwo: Ugh!
    *Mewtwo Faints*
    LOL!
     
  18. lvl 100 Charizard

    lvl 100 Charizard Well-Known Member

    Or:

    Magikarp used splash!
    Mewtwo got scared and died of fright!

    Thinking of the anime so far, that's not farfetched really, is it?
     
  19. I just think ash is just in the anime to make money and promote the games, hence the reason why he doesn't keep kanto pokemon whilst he's in Sinnoh, (with the exeption of Pikachu)
     
  20. Tomato-kun

    Tomato-kun I'm clueless ♥

    He wants to make his Pokemon happy,and captures Pokemon that he likes,and who usually like him back.

    He's an admirable Pokemon Trainer once you think about it.
    I think he quit his "Gotta Catch Them All" thing along time ago,and is just..Trying to be a Pokemon Master.
     
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