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Ash Versus the Champion (713)

Discussion in 'Pokémon Black & White - Rival Destinies' started by Serebii, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. Galvantula1992

    Galvantula1992 Well-Known Member

    Did trip or any one specifically mention that two of his different gym badges are from a Poison or Steel-type gym? If not, then which one do you think is from a Steel-type gym (I can't tell because none of them look grey).
  2. ForgottenPearl

    ForgottenPearl Well-Known Member

    When I first watched the episode, I was kinda disappointed that Alder wasn't quite the same as in the games. I can understand why some people really don't like him. But, the more I reflect on it, the more I like Alder. I think it's interesting how he's so different from what you'd expect from a champion. He's so casual about it, doesn't boast, and knows that enjoying life is more important than maintaining your power. That's cool. And I do think he has an interesting lesson up his sleeve: it's not smart to think that, once you accomplish your goals, life will just be "And I lived happily ever after." You really do have to consider what you're going to do once you achieve your goals, what you'll strive for then, and how you'll try to enjoy the journey.

    Wow, kinda a tangent. Back to the episode. My main beef with it was the fact that Bouffalant wouldn't do ANYTHING unless commanded, not even dodge. I mean, come on, can't that at least be a given? Also, I know complaining about realism in a show like this is a little... odd... but Alder was able to flip a 573.2 lb Pokemon? Really? I think it would've been more realistic if Bouffalant did the flipping: and that would've given Bouffalant and Alder a chance to show how they work well together. Not to mention I thought the whole Gigalith-was-only-attacking-because-it-was-hurt thing was predictable. But these aren't huge complaints by any means.

    Also, someone commented that Trip seems like the Cheren of the anime: I agree completely. And someone said something about him acting Brock-ish. Yeah, my first thought was, "Is he Brock's long lost grandfather?" :)

    Anyway, it was an enjoyable episode.
  3. Comebhax

    Comebhax Black & Yellow

    Alder looks like such a pedo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And he is the worst champion so far, i think he sucks.
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2012
  4. arceus156

    arceus156 New Member

    just saying because ash and alder's match was forfitted doesn't that make ash champ of unova untill he loses

    STICKTOPIA Well-Known Member

    A champion falling asleep during a battle.... Oh how I love cynthia so much better
  6. Ash&Pikachu-Fan

    Ash&Pikachu-Fan Pika-Speed

    I love the way he just says its a draw! I think of that as a draw! And that's a big deal!
  7. Swagsire

    Swagsire Well-Known Member

    Well...Alder's....a joke. But OH WELL. He's not stereotypical, so I'm okay with it! There's your change Pokefans Qwaa ;195;
  8. wobbanut

    wobbanut Team Awesome

    I don't like Trip, but this was one of his better episodes, as we get a glimpse into his past. I liked champion Alder, though, he was one of the more interesting VIPs like Cynthia or Bruno. I especially LOL'd at the part where he actually nodded off during his battle and his bouffalant got ticked off.

  9. LizardonX

    LizardonX Banned

    When Alder asked Ash what he will do after he reaches his goal he replies I never thought about it, which is appropriate since he'll never reach it. Also it;s a shame Ash didn't capture the gigalith, I know I would have at least tried it if that happened ingame.
  10. Zoruagible

    Zoruagible Lover of underrated characters

    I loved this episode. The scenes with Alder flirting with the girls were my favorite. I loved the Gigalith part as well.
  11. J Ken

    J Ken RAVE

    This was a good episode. Trip's beef with Alder was good and his little speech is a good hint at what is to come in the future. The episode felt kinda dull after Alder chatted with Ash and his friends.
  12. Aquarelle

    Aquarelle Well-Known Member Staff Member

    Alder was the best part of this episode for me, I thought he was awesome! I liked many of the things he did in the episode - especially flirting with the Officer Jenny and Nurse Joy, falling asleep during battle, and getting attacked by Bouffalant and Gigalith. Also loved how he seemed so forgetful, like how he couldn't remember Ash and Trip's names and kept calling them Ashton and Tristan instead. Overall, I really enjoyed this episode.
  13. J Ken

    J Ken RAVE

    Trip ignored Alder here even if Alder didn't believe in Trip's beliefs. This was a similar case with Paul and Cynthia I wonder if this will be a recurring pattern with main rivals.
  14. SpoinkyPearl

    SpoinkyPearl Well-Known Member

    After seeing the episode in which Bianca confronted Elesa I've been watching the series as the new episodes are aired here (these episodes are new here). This episode came today and I had expected that they would go to the Driftveil Drawbridge so I was positively surprised when they stayed for a while to follow the entertainers and met Alder. Alder is probably one of the most eccentric characters I've seen in Pokémon anime :D But he was rather awesome - only champion can be like that! I haven't seen Trip before (well, I've seen only 4 episodes so far so...) and I was kinda disappointed that he didn't battle with Alder because I would have liked to see what kind of Pokémon and battling style he had. But oh well, I'll probably see him again anyway if I keep watching the series from now on. Even though this episode was somewhat filler material it included many good scenes and awesome character of Alder so I have to say that I liked the episode.
  15. J Ken

    J Ken RAVE

    After seeing this episode it makes me wonder how many seasons will it take for a main rival to achieve their goal.
  16. Charizard_Trainer88

    Charizard_Trainer88 Pokemon Master

    lol i thought alder was a bum either that or a stoner
  17. J Ken

    J Ken RAVE

    I'm guessing Trip already had Serperior by now. There's no way he would have challenged Alder here with only a Servine.
  18. NPT

    NPT Just a member

    I liked this episode. It's funny when he was mispronouncing Ash and Trip's name.
    Ash and Alder's battle was hilariouse, He got knocked out by his own Bouffalant at the end of the battle. xD
    His filrting with Officer Jenny and Nurse Joy reminded me of Brock.
    Also, It's cool how he stopped the rampaging Gigalith and clamed it down by pulling out the nail off of it's feet.
  19. I guess Brock was giving Alder pointers in the Nurse Joy department.
    I think I know why Alder is the way he is. Getting attacked that much would mess anyone up in the head.
  20. Well, Alder was different from other champions. I like it. It's too bad Trip didn't stay for the entire episode. It's like the writers don't want him to have any development which is what he needs.

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