JonathanChone
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1. True though really only the 8th gym feat actually mattered in establishing Infernape as a TOP Ash Pokémon
2. The first time he beat Ursaring was thanks to special Blaze though sure it’s still impressive and also Staraptor and Pikachu were heavily damaged and burned respectively before facing Ursaring ergo that “sweep” isn’t as impressive as people make it out to be
3. Debatable (Infernape definitely not faster than Ash-Greninja or even Sceptile) though the fact that it kept up with a Motordrive boosted Electivire is impressive
4. Pikachu has a long history of inconsistency, so that’s an iffy one (e.g Serena’s Sylveon our performed it in XYZ 12 which would be considered “late” XY). Pikachu has only battled at his full potential on a handful of occasions (see my sig).
5. Yeah it has special Blaze which gives it an ME like power boost though sadly it can only be in that state for at most 1/3rd of its health (notice how I said “at most”).
6. So was I just imagining underground Flare Blitz?
7. Well it was as a Charizard but he did rank Gary’s Blastoise’s Hydro Pump and Gary’s Blastoise > Barry’s Empoleon
8. And was helped by Pikachu for both Aggron and Electivire whereas Charizard solo killed Golem and Blastoise, and Scizor only took slight damage from its Quick Attacks being deflected by Muk
Let’s see Infernape has never beaten a Legendary whereas Charizard was the first non-leagendary Pokémon to do so. Also and more importantly we know that Charizard has gone through rigorous training for the equivalent of about 4 regions (to understand just how intense it must have been Charizard before training was still arguably Ash’s strongest at the time yet got fodderised by even the “gentlest” Charizard living there), so even if Infernape has more potential it wouldn’t be realistic for a Pokémon with 1 region of experience to be overall better than Charizard (though I do think Blaze Infernape is a tad stronger but again unlike the Ash-Greninja form Infernape only gets access to special Blaze when =< 1/3rd health).
Impressive analysis and thanks, even we can almost certain that Paul's Electivire > Gary's Blastoise (because Paul meet Ash when Ash was at his peak, and still able to take Ash down several times even Ash has grown up more than when he was battling Gary, yet he's still 10 years old XD)