Ash's strongest Pokemon in Alola

[CMButch]

Incineroar's toughest competitions would be Charizard, Infernape, Greninja & Hawlucha!

Not Pokemon on your pfp!No really if you think Base ninja and Base nape then yeah.AG and Blazeape beat Incineroar.AG destroys it. Charizrd beats him but Hawlucha loses.

 

[Applecorp]

Incineroar's toughest competitions would be Charizard, Infernape, Greninja & Hawlucha!

Sorry Ryan I disagree with this big time. Hawlucha was probably mid-tier on Ash's Kalos team at best so how can he be ranked with Charizard and Greninja?

 

[Ryan McGlade]

Ash's Alola team going against Ash's other Pokemon @ Professor Oak's Laboratory during a battle!
Bulbasaur vs. Rowlet!
Gliscor vs. Lycanroc!
Noivern vs. Naganadel!
Snorlax vs. Melmetal!
Charizard vs. Incineroar!

 

[AuraChannelerChris]

Shouting does not make for a fair point.

 

[CMButch]

Ash's Alola team going against Ash's other Pokemon @ Professor Oak's Laboratory during a battle!
Bulbasaur vs. Rowlet!
Gliscor vs. Lycanroc!
Noivern vs. Naganadel!
Snorlax vs. Melmetal!
Charizard vs. Incineroar!

Bulbasaur!
Gliscor!
Naganadel!
Snorlax!
Charizard!
But Oshawott owns them all!

 

[Pokegirl Fan~]

Bulbasaur!
Gliscor!
Naganadel!
Snorlax!
Charizard!
But Oshawott owns them all!

Oshawott is Ash's strongest Pokemon, none of his others can even compare

 

[RafaSceptile]

Ash's Alola team going against Ash's other Pokemon @ Professor Oak's Laboratory during a battle!
Bulbasaur vs. Rowlet!
Gliscor vs. Lycanroc!
Noivern vs. Naganadel!
Snorlax vs. Melmetal!
Charizard vs. Incineroar!

Bulbasaur
Lycanroc
Naganadel
Tie
Charizard

 

[AuraChannelerChris]

omg!

 

[Ryan McGlade]

Incineroar needs more a whole lot of attention throughout battle combat pulling some intense moves here!
Flare Blitz, Close Combat, Outrage, Throat Chop, Cross Chop, Overheat & many more!
Incineroar's always been my favorite recently in fact it'll crush Ash's entire Alola team especially activating its ability Blaze!
Incineroar claiming its title for the Alola League!

 

[nickdt]

Incineroar's 3rd strongest of his team right before Charizard & Greninja!

LOOOLLLL Nope.
Ash's top 6
1. Pikachu
2. Charizard
3. Blaze Infernape/Regular Sceptile
4. Sceptile/Snorlax
5. Snorlax/Non-Blaze Infernape
6. Six can be a number of Pokemon, since Bulbasaur, Squirtle Krookodile, Lycanroc, Glalie, Talonflame and Tauros all have feats that puts them either in the sixth slot, or in his top 7-12 team.

Even Infernape, Snorlax and Sceptile can be interchangeable, especially since Sceptile fought legendaries (Which Infernape and Snorlax didn't) and Snorlax swept a Frontier Brain while being at a disadvantage (Which Sceptile and Infernape haven't).

Incineroar hasn't the feats the other Pokemon have, so it even being in its top 7/12 slot is arguable.

 

[AuraChannelerChris]

Alola isn't really a good place to rank the Alolan deals with previous team members all because of its abysmal number of battles.

 

[Fernsday]

As far as Ash’s strongest Pokémon go, I’d say it’s Pikachu>Greninja>Charizard>Blazeape>Sceptile>Incineroar. And as for his Alolan team: Incineroar>Melmetal>Naganadel>Lycanroc>Rowlet. Both Melmetal and Naganadel did better against Kukui than Lycanroc and Melmetal stomped Empoleon who was able to block its Flash Cannon, same Flash Cannon that overpowered Silvally’s Crush Claw and left it reeling and Naganadel beating Lucario is a solid feat, while Lucario did get one shot by that Guzzlord it should be kept in mind that Guzzlord was much bigger than a regular one(Plus Guzzlord’s been depicted as stronger than your typical bird trio, etc) and with just one Dragon Pulse almost sent it back to its portal, whereas it took Kiawe, Hau and Gladion to even slightly move back a regular sized Guzzlord. And the four Kahunas including Hala’s Hariyama’s Arm Thrust to move back another normal sized Guzzlord a few metres

 

[Fernsday]

I’d consider Lycanroc to be Ash’s 10th strongest(Just below Snorlax and slightly above Krookodile) Pokémon and would put Melmetal+Naganadel a little above Snorlax. Lycanroc was able to collide with Tapu Bulu’s Horn Leech with just a tackle as well as get up and keep battling after tanking a super effective Wood Hammer plus a tree hit(Whereas Pokémon such as Hawlucha and Talonflame were one shot and two shotted by Zapdos respectively, Swellow one shotted by Latios, etc) and its Stone Edge was able to knock Tapu Bulu back and prompted it to block, this was all in its calm state and not its red eye state in which he’s depicted to be slightly stronger and he only continued to get much stronger from Ula Ula arc, it’s Z-Move also left two Ultra Beasts reeling and brought them to their knees. As for Melmetal, it was able to heavily weaken Silvally who’s a legendary and was implied to be stronger than Nihilego in the Aether arc and only continued to get stronger plus it’s safe to say that it’s stronger than Kiawe’s Charizard who was able to slightly hurt Necrozma. As for Naganadel it was able to hold its own against and match Tapu Koko in speed despite battling prior and beating Lucario was a pretty solid feat plus that Lucario was outspeeding Naganadel with Extremespeed and Naganadel was shown matching Tapu Koko’s speed as mentioned prior, both did better against Kukui than Lycanroc as well whose feats I mentioned. Plus Melmetal and Naganadel being a Mythical and Ultra Beast respectively helps its case

 

[nickdt]

As far as Ash’s strongest Pokémon go, I’d say it’s Pikachu>Greninja>Charizard>Blazeape>Sceptile>Incineroar. And as for his Alolan team: Incineroar>Melmetal>Naganadel>Lycanroc>Rowlet. Both Melmetal and Naganadel did better against Kukui than Lycanroc and Melmetal stomped Empoleon who was able to block its Flash Cannon, same Flash Cannon that overpowered Silvally’s Crush Claw and left it reeling and Naganadel beating Lucario is a solid feat, while Lucario did get one shot by that Guzzlord it should be kept in mind that Guzzlord was much bigger than a regular one(Plus Guzzlord’s been depicted as stronger than your typical bird trio, etc) and with just one Dragon Pulse almost sent it back to its portal, whereas it took Kiawe, Hau and Gladion to even slightly move back a regular sized Guzzlord. And the four Kahunas including Hala’s Hariyama’s Arm Thrust to move back another normal sized Guzzlord a few metres

Interesting. I disagree with all of them.

His strongest team obviously is
Pikachu>Charizard (Defeated multiple legendaries)> Ash-Greninja (Regular Greninja is mediocore compared to Talonflame and Hawlucha, especially Talonflame, who didn't need a power-up to bring a hit in against a Mega, unlike Greninja)>Sceptile (Defeated a legendary and didn't activate its ability to do so)>Infernape (Blaze getting activated diminishes some of his wins)> The sixth slot goes to either Glalie, Krookodile or Snorlax, since they all have better feats than Incineroar.
Alola team
Lycanroc (Solo'd a Kahuna and was even at a disadvantage against Nanu's Krookodile)> Incineroar (Couldn't defeat Kukui's Incineroar 1v1 in a direct match-up and needed a power-up and Lycanroc weakening it, in order to do so)> Rowlet (Has better feats than Melmetal and defeated its fully evolved form)> Melmetal (Won against Empoleon, however, Empoleon was already weakened by Pikachu beforehand, i don't count its match with Silvally, where it lost, due to Silvally being more experienced in battle). I don't count Dragapult at all, since under Ash, it has had only one battle and Ash didn't even train Naganadel himself, who only returned because of plotarmor.

 

[Fernsday]

Interesting. I disagree with all of them.

His strongest team obviously is
Pikachu>Charizard (Defeated multiple legendaries)> Ash-Greninja (Regular Greninja is mediocore compared to Talonflame and Hawlucha, especially Talonflame, who didn't need a power-up to bring a hit in against a Mega, unlike Greninja)>Sceptile (Defeated a legendary and didn't activate its ability to do so)>Infernape (Blaze getting activated diminishes some of his wins)> The sixth slot goes to either Glalie, Krookodile or Snorlax, since they all have better feats than Incineroar.
Alola team
Lycanroc (Solo'd a Kahuna and was even at a disadvantage against Nanu's Krookodile)> Incineroar (Couldn't defeat Kukui's Incineroar 1v1 in a direct match-up and needed a power-up and Lycanroc weakening it, in order to do so)> Rowlet (Has better feats than Melmetal and defeated its fully evolved form)> Melmetal (Won against Empoleon, however, Empoleon was already weakened by Pikachu beforehand, i don't count its match with Silvally, where it lost, due to Silvally being more experienced in battle). I don't count Dragapult at all, since under Ash, it has had only one battle and Ash didn't even train Naganadel himself, who only returned because of plotarmor.

Nope, sixth slot still goes to Incineroar. And the two hits that Lycanroc even landed on Incineroar clearly didn’t effect it in the long run plus Torracat took a hit from Incineroar that left it reeling plus was hurting from absorbing Blast Burn until eventually mastering its power and as for the “power up”, it’s literally part of Torracat’s arc in that battle. To control the power of Blast Burn and make it his OWN power, which he did, so the win is still valid regardless, plus Incineroar literally keeps that power anyways, it’s his own. Kukui’s Incineroar casually grabbed Melmetal’s Double Iron Bash while an unmastered one left Silvally reeling and he’s a legendary, yet Kukui’s Incineroar easily stopped it, it also easily overpowered Flash Cannon with Darkest Lariat and Flash Cannon also heavily damaged Silvally, yes Incineroar had a type advantage over Melmetal but the result wouldn’t be any different regardless as it still overpowered Melmetal with a neutral attack(DL) and was physically stronger than it(Easily grabbed DIB). Also Naganadel returning isn’t “plot armour”, and yes Ash didn’t train it but he helped nurture and essentially raise Poipole, helping it cope with Minior’s death, teaching it about the Pokémon world, providing it with a family, etc and it returning is a way of repaying Ash for all those things, not everything has to be about battling and not everything has to be spoon fed to you, show don’t tell, it’s an important aspect of storytelling. Plus before Ash released Poipole it’s literally stated that it’s going to get stronger to protect its homeworld, so it returning as Naganadel isn’t farfetched whatsoever. Rowlet does not have better feats than Melmetal, it’s a strong Pokémon but no, beating its fully evolved form doesn’t compare to heavily weakening a legendary and that was prior to Melmetal even mastering Double Iron Bash, also Empoleon was not weakened, it took no damage from Pikachu whatsoever, plus Empoleon was strong enough to block Flash Cannon, same Flash Cannon that overpowered Silvally and heavily hurt it, yet a Double Iron Bash easily one shotted it, better than anything Rowlet’s shown oh and Kukui’s Incineroar easily grabbed said attack and Torracat defeated it. As for Naganadel, it defeated Kukui’s Lucario who almost sent a giant Guzzlord flying back in its portal with just one Dragon Pulse, whereas it took Gladion, Kiawe and Hau to even knock back a regular sized Guzzlord a few metres, even Dia’s Zeraora who’s a Mythical struggled to push back a regular sized Guzzlord with Plasma Fists, Kukui’s Lucario knocked a Guzzlord that was much bigger into its portal far back to the point where it almost got sent back. So Naganadel scales above Lycanroc as it lost to Braviary, and no it’s not an “outlier”, Braviary was simply the stronger Pokémon, this is Kukui we’re talking about and all his Pokémon would obviously be well trained, and Rowlet beat Braviary because it was weakened by Lycanroc and it also aimed for the leg that Lycanroc was biting on when using Brave Bird. Kukui’s Incineroar is much stronger than Lycanroc as Lycanroc was defeated by Braviary who wasn’t Kukui’s ace, nonetheless Lycanroc tanked multiple super effective hits from Tapu Bulu in just its green eyed state and he only continued to grow stronger, which puts it above Krookodile and Glalie. Naganadel beat Lucario again has a great feat and yes it did get one shotted by Guzzlord but, that Guzzlord was much bigger than a regular one and Guzzlord is also much stronger than most legendaries like your typical bird trio, plus Melmetal almost defeating a legendary on its first try puts it above Snorlax imo whose best feat is easily sweeping a low-mid FB level character. Incineroar>Melmetal who stomped Empoleon(Did not take any damage from Pikachu whatsoever so your argument is invalid)>Naganadel(Defeated Kukui’s Lucario and even matched Tapu Koko in speed and landed a hit despite being slightly weakened)>Lycanroc(Held its own against Tapu Bulu but lost to Braviary which puts it below Naganadel and Melmetal who were able to defeat Kukui’s Pokémon who weren’t weakened)>Rowlet(Hasn’t shown feats as great as the others, it did beat Hau’s Decidueye but he doesn’t compare to the likes of Midnight Lucario and Kukui’s Pokémon, again Rowlet is not weak, he’s just simply the weakest of an already strong team)

 

[nickdt]

Nope, sixth slot still goes to Incineroar. And the two hits that Lycanroc even landed on Incineroar clearly didn’t effect it in the long run plus Torracat took a hit from Incineroar that left it reeling plus was hurting from absorbing Blast Burn until eventually mastering its power and as for the “power up”, it’s literally part of Torracat’s arc in that battle. To control the power of Blast Burn and make it his OWN power, which he did, so the win is still valid regardless, plus Incineroar literally keeps that power anyways, it’s his own. Kukui’s Incineroar casually grabbed Melmetal’s Double Iron Bash while an unmastered one left Silvally reeling and he’s a legendary, yet Kukui’s Incineroar easily stopped it, it also easily overpowered Flash Cannon with Darkest Lariat and Flash Cannon also heavily damaged Silvally, yes Incineroar had a type advantage over Melmetal but the result wouldn’t be any different regardless as it still overpowered Melmetal with a neutral attack(DL) and was physically stronger than it(Easily grabbed DIB). Also Naganadel returning isn’t “plot armour”, and yes Ash didn’t train it but he helped nurture and essentially raise Poipole, helping it cope with Minior’s death, teaching it about the Pokémon world, providing it with a family, etc and it returning is a way of repaying Ash for all those things, not everything has to be about battling and not everything has to be spoon fed to you, show don’t tell, it’s an important aspect of storytelling. Plus before Ash released Poipole it’s literally stated that it’s going to get stronger to protect its homeworld, so it returning as Naganadel isn’t farfetched whatsoever. Rowlet does not have better feats than Melmetal, it’s a strong Pokémon but no, beating its fully evolved form doesn’t compare to heavily weakening a legendary and that was prior to Melmetal even mastering Double Iron Bash, also Empoleon was not weakened, it took no damage from Pikachu whatsoever, plus Empoleon was strong enough to block Flash Cannon, same Flash Cannon that overpowered Silvally and heavily hurt it, yet a Double Iron Bash easily one shotted it, better than anything Rowlet’s shown oh and Kukui’s Incineroar easily grabbed said attack and Torracat defeated it. As for Naganadel, it defeated Kukui’s Lucario who almost sent a giant Guzzlord flying back in its portal with just one Dragon Pulse, whereas it took Gladion, Kiawe and Hau to even knock back a regular sized Guzzlord a few metres, even Dia’s Zeraora who’s a Mythical struggled to push back a regular sized Guzzlord with Plasma Fists, Kukui’s Lucario knocked a Guzzlord that was much bigger into its portal far back to the point where it almost got sent back. So Naganadel scales above Lycanroc as it lost to Braviary, and no it’s not an “outlier”, Braviary was simply the stronger Pokémon, this is Kukui we’re talking about and all his Pokémon would obviously be well trained, and Rowlet beat Braviary because it was weakened by Lycanroc and it also aimed for the leg that Lycanroc was biting on when using Brave Bird. Kukui’s Incineroar is much stronger than Lycanroc as Lycanroc was defeated by Braviary who wasn’t Kukui’s ace, nonetheless Lycanroc tanked multiple super effective hits from Tapu Bulu in just its green eyed state and he only continued to grow stronger, which puts it above Krookodile and Glalie. Naganadel beat Lucario again has a great feat and yes it did get one shotted by Guzzlord but, that Guzzlord was much bigger than a regular one and Guzzlord is also much stronger than most legendaries like your typical bird trio, plus Melmetal almost defeating a legendary on its first try puts it above Snorlax imo whose best feat is easily sweeping a low-mid FB level character. Incineroar>Melmetal who stomped Empoleon(Did not take any damage from Pikachu whatsoever so your argument is invalid)>Naganadel(Defeated Kukui’s Lucario and even matched Tapu Koko in speed and landed a hit despite being slightly weakened)>Lycanroc(Held its own against Tapu Bulu but lost to Braviary which puts it below Naganadel and Melmetal who were able to defeat Kukui’s Pokémon who weren’t weakened)>Rowlet(Hasn’t shown feats as great as the others, it did beat Hau’s Decidueye but he doesn’t compare to the likes of Midnight Lucario and Kukui’s Pokémon, again Rowlet is not weak, he’s just simply the weakest of an already strong team)

What are Incineroars feats compared to Snorlax, Krookodile, Glalie and even Talonflame, Hawlucha, Lycanroc and Tauros? Oh wait, there is none compared to them.
Snorlax - defeats mons while at a disadvantage
Krookodile - defeats mons while at a disadvantage
Glalie - Takes down mons while at a disadvantage
Talonflame - Tanks a Fire Blast from its fully evolved form while being a Fletchling, tanks a Fire Blast from Moltres and brings in hits, brings in hits against a Mega, doesn't go down in a Gym/league match without taking another mon with it (Except for Grant)
Tauros - Ties with a Psuedo during the Battle Frontier, heavily damages another Psuedo (Drakes Dragonite), defeats Drakes Venusaur (His second strongest mon), takes down the strongest Tauros in Johto
Hawlucha - defeats mons while at a disadvantage
Lycanroc - Solo's a Kahuna, takes down Pokemon while at a disadvantage (Nanu's Krookodile), held its own against a Legendary(Who had the advantage over it).
Funny thing is: None of those mons needed a power-up to do so, while Incineroar does. Show me where Incineroar ever fought a mon 1v1 and won, solo'd a Kahuna, tanked hits from legendaries or won against a mon while at a disadvantage. Until you can do that, you entire argument is pointless, since i already gave you better Pokemon based on feats. And if i want to go any further, even Squirtle and Bulbasaur are better than Incineroar, since again, they defeated Pokemon while at a disadvantge. Torterra brought hits in against Bertha's Hippowdon and faced Brandons Rhyperior, so based on that: Torterra>Incineroar.
Even Corphish, a base form Pokemon, defeated fully evolved mons (Without the need of a power-up), so based on that alone: Corphish> Incineroar, since Torracat needed a power-up to do so.
Incineroar is way overrated, since its feats show its a mediocore mon compared to others, it even is at the lower end of the mons even we take all the feats into account.

 

[Fernsday]

Actually there is, beating a low-mid E4 level Pokémon in Incineroar? Also Illima’s a Kalos League participant meaning he’d have to beat Wulfric who is much stronger than a regular gym leader and scales around mid FB level as Mega Abomasnow scales above Talonflame and Hawlucha(Hawlucha beat base Abomasnow but it was holding back heavily which was shown later on when it easily beats Talonflame and Citron proceeds to state “It looks like Urup is playing for keeps this time”) and Golisopod is significantly stronger than Ilima’s Mega Kangaskhan, yet Torracat was heavily giving it trouble, tanked a liquidation from it and even forced it to switch, yes it lost but it essentially did most of the work against it. And whether you like it or not, Torracat made Blast Burn its own power so it’s valid, he would’ve lost if he wasn’t resilient enough to absorb Blast Burn in the first place. Once again, Torracat surpassed and defeated Kukui’s Incineroar, his ace who scales to low-mid E4 level whereas Lycanroc lost to Braviary who wasn’t Kukui’s strongest. Torracat surpassing a low-mid E4 level Pokémon trumps any of the feats you mentioned, I already debunked your entire argument with that one feat lmao as that is Torracat at the peak of his power and it’s not a “power up” that was just handed to him, he had to make it his own power which he did whether you like it or not

 

[RafaSceptile]

What are Incineroars feats compared to Snorlax, Krookodile, Glalie and even Talonflame, Hawlucha, Lycanroc and Tauros? Oh wait, there is none compared to them.
Snorlax - defeats mons while at a disadvantage
Krookodile - defeats mons while at a disadvantage
Glalie - Takes down mons while at a disadvantage
Talonflame - Tanks a Fire Blast from its fully evolved form while being a Fletchling, tanks a Fire Blast from Moltres and brings in hits, brings in hits against a Mega, doesn't go down in a Gym/league match without taking another mon with it (Except for Grant)
Tauros - Ties with a Psuedo during the Battle Frontier, heavily damages another Psuedo (Drakes Dragonite), defeats Drakes Venusaur (His second strongest mon), takes down the strongest Tauros in Johto
Hawlucha - defeats mons while at a disadvantage
Lycanroc - Solo's a Kahuna, takes down Pokemon while at a disadvantage (Nanu's Krookodile), held its own against a Legendary(Who had the advantage over it).
Funny thing is: None of those mons needed a power-up to do so, while Incineroar does. Show me where Incineroar ever fought a mon 1v1 and won, solo'd a Kahuna, tanked hits from legendaries or won against a mon while at a disadvantage. Until you can do that, you entire argument is pointless, since i already gave you better Pokemon based on feats. And if i want to go any further, even Squirtle and Bulbasaur are better than Incineroar, since again, they defeated Pokemon while at a disadvantge. Torterra brought hits in against Bertha's Hippowdon and faced Brandons Rhyperior, so based on that: Torterra>Incineroar.
Even Corphish, a base form Pokemon, defeated fully evolved mons (Without the need of a power-up), so based on that alone: Corphish> Incineroar, since Torracat needed a power-up to do so.
Incineroar is way overrated, since its feats show its a mediocore mon compared to others, it even is at the lower end of the mons even we take all the feats into account.

Tauros, Talonflame and Hawlucha were all average Pokémon on Ash's teams. I can see an argument about Snorlax, Krookodile, Glalie and Corphish

 

[nickdt]

Tauros, Talonflame and Hawlucha were all average Pokémon on Ash's teams. I can see an argument about Snorlax, Krookodile, Glalie and Corphish

LOOOLLLLLL. Talonflame carried the whole Gym run on its back. Without Talonflame, Ash would have lost against both Valerie and Olympia.

Kalos team
Ash-Greninja > Talonflame > Hawlucha > Regular Greninja > Goodra > Noivern.

Talonflame has way better feats than regular Greninja has (So if Talonflame is average, regular Greninja is bad af).

 

[RafaSceptile]

LOOOLLLLLL. Talonflame carried the whole Gym run on its back. Without Talonflame, Ash would have lost against both Valerie and Olympia.

Kalos team
Ash-Greninja > Talonflame > Hawlucha > Regular Greninja > Goodra > Noivern.

Talonflame has way better feats than regular Greninja has (So if Talonflame is average, regular Greninja is bad af).

Talonflame did as good job as Hawlucha, (9-9-1), and they were still less consistent than all the Alola Team except Naganadel