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Ash's Torterra

Discussion in 'Pokémon Animé Discussion' started by Lucille, Dec 9, 2014.

  1. Lucille

    Lucille Well-Known Member

    Ash's Torterra has a really bad reputation on this forum. It was one of Ash's most relied on Pokemon in Sinnoh as a Turtwig and a Grotle but became shafted due to Chimchar and his evos. Do you think Torterra is a better Pokemon then some people give it credit for? Would you like to see a future appearance where Torterra gets a chance to win?
     
  2. CyberCubed

    CyberCubed Banned

    The problem is Ash is usually not good in handling slow and big Pokemon, with the exception of Snorlax.

    Turtwig won countless battles in its first form because it was like Bulbasaur 2.0 at first. When it evolved into Grotle it got slower and harder to handle, and then Torterra even worse. Its hilarious, I think Torterra is the only Pokemon Ash had that actually got *worse* at battling when it evolved.
     
  3. Pokegirl Fan~

    Pokegirl Fan~ Tsundere Girl

    I pretty much agree. I think Paul knows how to handle Torterra better than Ash since both are completely opposite of each other. As for it coming back to get a win, I'd like to see it in the league, and perhaps Ash could use some more of Paul's strategies.
     
  4. Navin

    Navin MALDREAD

    Two words: Suicide Mountain

    Torterra is a solid tier 3 Pokemon. It holds its own against tough competition. But it screws itself over with Suicide Mountain.
     
  5. Captain America X

    Captain America X Well-Known Member

    Replace Rock Climb(useless move which guaranteed his loss) with Earth Power or Bulldoze or Gyro Ball,and maybe replace Synthesis(barely did ay good anyway)with Giga Drain and he will be fine.
     
  6. Blood Red

    Blood Red ...

    Of course it is, it's just that Ash doesn't know how to handle a tank just yet.
     
  7. phanpycross

    phanpycross God-king

    Truth is they always killed off torterra to make Ash's opponents seem more competent.
     
  8. Blood Red

    Blood Red ...

    That too, which I always thought was unfair to the big guy.
     
  9. phanpycross

    phanpycross God-king

    I always felt lie it should have been the one to take down Paul's drapion, or at least tie with it, but I guess not :/
     
  10. Blood Red

    Blood Red ...

    Agreed. I would've loved to see Torterra redeem itself for the defeats it had to go through, but the writers decided to give that one to Goku MkII as well -_-
     
  11. Vernikova

    Vernikova Champion

    Ultimately, a Pokemon is only as good as the Trainer that commands it. Ash's inability to handle it caps its potential, and while it may have a higher ceiling with a Trainer who can put its skills to better use, its with Ash and will only do as well as Ash can command it to.
     
  12. UltimatePokemonExpert

    UltimatePokemonExpert Experienced Trainer

    Poor Torterra. Stupid Pokémon writers not letting Ash be competent.
     
  13. Lucille

    Lucille Well-Known Member

    That's why I can Torterra doing well in the future. Once Ash is a better trainer he'll be able to utilize Torterra to it's full potential
     
  14. Crimson Red

    Crimson Red Well-Known Member

    Torterra should return with these moves

    Wood Hammer
    Bulldoze
    Stone Edge
    Crunch
     
  15. CyberCubed

    CyberCubed Banned

    Its hard to believe Torterra's only win in its final stage is blasting off Team Rocket.
     
  16. Lucille

    Lucille Well-Known Member

    He had so much potential as Turtwig too
     
  17. fitzy909

    fitzy909 Just another guy

    I know. It had a lot of power behind it, but always got shafted with the battles against the strongest opponents before they were even slightly weakened. It seems like the writers had a personal vendetta against Torterra... for some reason
     
  18. Navin

    Navin MALDREAD

    Torterra just needs to forget Suicide Mountain and come back as a reserve and earn a League win and it'll get its redemption.
     
  19. CyberCubed

    CyberCubed Banned

    The problem with Torterra is Infernape was the star of Sinnoh.

    Whatever starter pokemon that fully evolves is usually the star of that generation, like Charizard, Sceptile, Infernape and eventually Greninja. Torterra just...had no hope with Infernape being the star
     
  20. LizardonX

    LizardonX Banned

    Ash's torterra has the same overall win ratio as sceptile. Kind of funny actually.

    It's a pity torterra had to exist in the one season of the show where they took type advantages seriously. In any other region getting hit by a SE ice punch or pin missile would have done nothing to it because the types were inverted.
     

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