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Aug 18th: XY&Z038 - Kalos League Victory! Ash's Ultimate Match!!

Discussion in 'Animé Spoilers' started by Dephender, Jul 10, 2016.

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  1. AuraChannelerChris

    AuraChannelerChris "How did I know that would be your reaction?"

    I'm all for Ash-Greninja inflicting a career-ending small bleeding wound on M-C X for a victory.
     
  2. Amine

    Amine Well-Known Member

    Just one thing, is it more important for ash-greninja to sigle handedly defeat MCX or for Ash to win the league ?
     
  3. Red and Blue

    Red and Blue Well-Known Member

    Ash winning the league? We already know Greninja won't beat Zard by himself since Pikachu managed to inflect some damage
     
  4. Why is everyone assuming rain dance is going to help out greninja it doesnt have swift swim so its not going to boost its speed or its moves and from what i remember when greninja launches the giant shuriken its not raining in the background..
     
  5. LizardonX

    LizardonX Banned

    You'll be reading "Greninja lost despite Charizard taking prior damage" for years to come.
     
  6. NegaiFreak

    NegaiFreak Plus Ultra!

    Boosts regular Water Shuriken though. That could be a potential problem for Alain early on in that last fight.
     
  7. Satoshi & Touko

    Satoshi & Touko Glimwood Tangle is Literal Dreamland

    If Ash wins this, I'm 85+% sure it will be because of Orange Soda Shuriken, especially since the last clip in the preview showed Ash-ninja throwing it.

    Which is why I wouldn't mind at all if Bisharp is still around after Goodra and weakens Greninja a bit to even the score beforehand.
     
  8. Kazuki Mirai

    Kazuki Mirai Well-Known Member

    Yeah Goodra is totally gonna get wrecked by Guillotine. Probably Rain Dance is what helps Greninja against Bisharp instead.
     
  9. TheNewGuy

    TheNewGuy Well-Known Member

    Sadly true, I think.

    I don't like how the last episode left things with Ash on top, I think it sets up his defeat, sadly. It was just too optimistic, with Pikachu even landing hits on Charizard. If Bisharp does even things up, that'd be a bit better in terms of hoping for Ash to win, but...idk.

    Like with Paul, they set up the first part of the battle for Ash to dominate, the second part to be a bit darker (Drapion quickly KOing three of Ash's Pokemon), and the third to be Ash's win. There was a rise and fall.

    I feel like Ash would be in more trouble if he was going to win.
     
  10. ZettaSlowKing

    ZettaSlowKing Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking that Rain Dance is gonna be used more for Goodra than for Greninja. We've already see Bisharp use Thunder Wave on Hawlucha, so it makes
    sense for Alain try the same on Goodra. Unfortunately, it seems that the best case for Goodra at this point is a draw. So we'll see what happens there.
    Perhaps, Alain sees an opening when Goodra uses Rain Dance and takes it out on the spot with Guillotine. Would fall right into place with Goodra's surprised
    look in the preview.
     
  11. BlueDragonfangirl

    BlueDragonfangirl Well-Known Member

    It's not just the title that gets the idea of Ash winning, that was far from my mind of this...Points being

    - Every rival Ash wasn't able to beat all series i.e. Paul and Gary was always defeated at the league

    - Alan doesn't even want to become a Pokemon Master in the first or care about the league till he wanted to battle Ash, it'd just be weird if Alan won in this...

    - Why does Team Flare kidnap Ash after this?

    - Next series doesn't have gyms and is a trial of some sort


    Well any ways, guess will see. I'm hoping for Ash to win, now of all times makes the perfect sense
     
  12. Acrobatics

    Acrobatics Sky Master

    Why is no one worried about the Lysandre segment. He literally said they are ready to start his plan to take over all of Kalos when this battle reaches its climax. This seems like an inevitable interruption that is gonna occur in the battle, anyone else worried?
     
  13. andrewscott48209

    andrewscott48209 Well-Known Member

    I think they are working in the background and will wait for Lysandre too give the order to strike.
     
  14. Domok

    Domok Well-Known Member

    Clearly Charizard X won't survive the big hyped up orange disc of death. I feel like people forget that exists when they say Alain will win honestly.
     
  15. BlueDragonfangirl

    BlueDragonfangirl Well-Known Member

    I would if some one posted English subs up by now, I have no idea what they said.

    However didn't the summary say we'd get an outcome either way? I don't know what fans would be pissed off more at..

    A. Ash loosing

    Or

    B. An interruption in the league final
     
  16. Soniman

    Soniman Break the Limit

    I feel like Ash's luck will start running out with Charizard's defeat of Pikachu and Bisharp killing or tying with Goodra, then both are on equal terms for the final match
     
  17. Acrobatics

    Acrobatics Sky Master

    look up the episode on youtube with english subs, lots of credible videos @bluedragon
     
  18. NegaiFreak

    NegaiFreak Plus Ultra!

    Charizard's definitely defeating Pikachu, and Bisharp may likely defeat Goodra, despite the fact I'm not exactly a fan of that conclusion.

    But hey, at least it somewhat puts Greninja on level ground with Charizard when their battle arrives. Heck, it'd be awesome!
     
  19. Satoshi & Touko

    Satoshi & Touko Glimwood Tangle is Literal Dreamland

    I think case B would be worse because in that case Ash is going to inevitably fail again because of inconvenient circumstances rather than just not being the stronger trainer.
     
  20. BlueDragonfangirl

    BlueDragonfangirl Well-Known Member

    I'll try, last I looked I could only find the battle between Ash and Alan with no subs. I've been dying to know what they've been saying.

    The wait for the results of the battles going to kill me.
     
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