Akashin
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It's coming from the fact that when Charizard comes back out to face Greninja, Greninja is all Ash has left. Meaning Goodra has to lose or tie.
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Aug 18th: XY&Z038 - Kalos League Victory! Ash's Ultimate Match!!
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It's coming from the fact that when Charizard comes back out to face Greninja, Greninja is all Ash has left. Meaning Goodra has to lose or tie.
Superyoshiom
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I'm thinking best case scenario, Goodra KOs Bisharp and right after he collapses from exhaustion. So I guess that'd be a tie.
I hope that happens honestly, at least goodra being able to have bisharp go down be able to save greninja and then they win would mean he did something.
Locormus
Can we please get the older, old forum back?
Was it worth it though? Ash's first "Pseudo"? A solid win in the fifth gym and two ties in the league. Wow. What a record!
You know, this makes me wonder if the writers care nearly as much about the win record as some of the fans do. Of course, logical explanation is just that Goodra got rusty (and it evolved too quickly).
It's a tribute to how selfless goodra is and just the nature of ash in general. Gooda just wanted a team win.
Red and Blue
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Goodra was brought back just to make sure Ash had a full party. Though it would have been nice if it got at least one victory against Bisharp or Slurpuff
I think Goodra will lose to Bisharp, who will then go on to do some damage to Greninja before being taken out. My biggest fear, however, is that Bisharp will manage to paralyse Greninja instead of damaging him, which will make Ash's chances of winning the league very slim.
Superyoshiom
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If the fans had it their way, Noivern wouldn't be the fall guy and Goodra would get more than a tie in the entire league.
Goodra isn't designed so much to be a powerhouse as it is designed to be a KO-machine. Goodra's battle style is to tank attacks and redirect that damage with Bide. That is a very powerful combination to the point Goodra can even KO pokemon that it shouldn't be able to win against, like Shota's Slurpuff. This is further reinforced with how status effects are of little use against Goodra because of Rain Dance + Hydration. So Bisharp has no choice but to go in for the jugular. Bisharp will assuredly KO Goodra, but Goodra isn't going down without taking its opponent with it.
UbersSuck20
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Weavile would have beat Hawlucha by game logic tbh.
Anyway, I think Ash wins the league and gets kidnapped during the ceremony. It's only logical.
Red Pheonix
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Can we apply any logic if Alain wins? I can't seem to figure it out. Where are the skepticts when you need one?
Emperor Empoleon
Honor of Kalos
But that was when Zard was a Charmeleon. Lysandre trusts him enough at this point to fend off against the Primals and protect his group from a wild Zygarde. EX-Flare Alain would be a great detriment.
Never underestimate the power of the fans, bud. Sports teams for one are nothing without their fans. No franchise, series, group, or person can keep moving along without its supporters. Those fans also have the power to influence others on whom to support, including their own children. It would be unwise to for any person or company to do something that'll drive the fans away.
I also reckon that those "some people in their late teens to early 30's" make up a bigger demographic than you think. That was the case with the games, I think. As far as I know, the only demographic that Pokémon is currently struggling with are Japanese children, partly thanks to the rise of Yokai Watch (Pokémon is still king everywhere else, especially with Pokémon GO's smashing success). To stay the course with the anime would pretty much alienate that demographic away (and could even prevent their children from watching the show), and I doubt it'll do anything to draw in Japanese children and benefit the ratings. That was certainly the case with the transition from DP to BW. I cannot see how staying with the status quo will do the show any good commercially. The only people that would continue to watch the show are whom I call the status quo apologists (like Alexander18), and that number is certainly lower than the combined demographics the show has now.
I think what happens two days from now will be very important for the anime's future and thus its viewers. I reckon that the majority of fans want Ash to win this, especially long-time viewers.
NegaiFreak
Plus Ultra!
And yet we can assume that Lysandre has Mega Gyarados, so even if Alain were to go up against him, he'd have a way of taking down his Mega Charizard X.
Nah, not the ceremony, because it directly says that Ash and the others go to figure out what's going on. So, they'd likely leave the stadium.
Soniman
Break the Limit
As someone who is fully prepared and has accepted the possibility of Ash losing, the reactions either way will be fantastic
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