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Aug 4th: XY&Z036 - Fierce Fighting at the Kalos League! Gather, All of My Passion!!

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Joltik-Kid

Meh ಠ_ಠ
I'm sorta interested and uninterested in this episode... because it's killing to know more about Ash's and Alain's battle
 

Illusio

Well-Known Member
If you like the league, then that's your opinion, if you dislike it, then that's your opinion. We're honestly getting way too heated in this discussion if we can't talk about criticisms or positives without bashing the other and it's getting ridiculous. Take a step back and just take a break as they are because attacking other's opinions is not going to get us anywhere.

Ok, now that I've said my two-cents, I also mixed on this episode. I understand the point of it, but I also want to move on to the next battle since I want to see how it shapes up
 

Lord Trollbias

Y'all Salty Bishes
Lol, no I've seen it. I really should back out but naturally I just have to get in the discussion. Honestly, it's popular to bash XY in general. Poor fans, Ash is gonna win his league and get a girlfriend but it wasn't in Gens 1, 2, 3, or 4. Deal with it.
Get a girlfriend? Ok mate. Whatever you say.
 

Janovy

Banned
Get a girlfriend?

Lol, well that's about all you need to say to guarantee people won't take you seriously.

I mean...wow.
 

Torterraaaa

Well-Known Member
Whatever, that is your opinion. The reason XY receives bashing is because people constantly say it is the best series ever by far. No. Only thing that XY excels in is animation, and that is expected. Otherwise it's the same old promotion for children.
Do you actually like the show?
 

Torterraaaa

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Anyway, I am so hyped to see Manon with the regular crew. Maybe cos they'll actually be nice to her. Seriously, eff Alain. Side note, but do we even know why he was a dick to Sycamore? Has Lysandre been saying stuff about him?
 

Joltik-Kid

Meh ಠ_ಠ
Lol, no I've seen it. I really should back out but naturally I just have to get in the discussion. Honestly, it's popular to bash XY in general. Poor fans, Ash is gonna win his league and get a girlfriend but it wasn't in Gens 1, 2, 3, or 4. Deal with it.
Really, because I couldn't tell from all the wanking XY gets, especially the league, every other post.
 

clbgolden12

Alolan (and soon to be Galarian) trainer
Nope. Still had a bad story. A game like The Last of Us slams it to smithereens.
Well, yeah, when you compare it to a story like that then BW (game) wasn't that good, but by Pokémon standards it was a good story.

Anyways, will there actually be any league battling in this episode? The title says there will be, but I don't think the preview showed any...
 

Navin

MALDREAD
Lol, no I've seen it. I really should back out but naturally I just have to get in the discussion. Honestly, it's popular to bash XY in general. Poor fans, Ash is gonna win his league and get a girlfriend but it wasn't in Gens 1, 2, 3, or 4. Deal with it.
Assuming they'll make Ash reciprocate (which is highly questionable at this point), the best outcome is probably something similar to that May/Drew final sunset conversation. Some pseudo-confirmation of mutual feelings and a promise to see each other again. That's very unlikely though.
 

Epicocity

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Well, yeah, when you compare it to a story like that then BW (game) wasn't that good, but by Pokémon standards it was a good story.

Anyways, will there actually be any league battling in this episode? The title says there will be, but I don't think the preview showed any...
They showed Ash and Alain heading into the stadium, but without knowing where that happens, we can't judge if the battle will begin or not.
 

Torterraaaa

Well-Known Member
Of course I like the show, otherwise I wouldn't be commenting here. But the reality is, we are all watching children stuff. I'm not proud of it, but hey, I enjoy it so whatever.
There's nothing wrong with liking good kids shows. A lot of adult dramas are very dark and gritty these days and it's nice to take a break from that sometimes.
 

crimson_echidna

Active Member
I take it you guys just don't understand what is going on... Right now it's the popular thing to bash Greninja because the writers wanted to make him unique and allow Ash a Pokemon that could battle on par with Megas regularly. But that doesn't matter because whenever he shows up, even if for thirty seconds in one episode, he steals the entire episode...

And cue the angry mob saying I'm a fanboy
Which is funny when you remember before the Greninja superform happened, there were people literally begging for Charizard to return and be Ash's Mega. You know, so one of Ash's old pokemon could "steal the spotlight."

There's nothing wrong with liking good kids shows. A lot of adult dramas are very dark and gritty these days and it's nice to take a break from that sometimes.
We're also in a time where cartoons like Avatar, Steven Universe, and Gravity Falls all have massive fanbases online, despite being "kid shows." As long as you don't go overboard with your fandom, I don't think there's anything to be ashamed of.
 

PAndrews

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I take it you guys just don't understand what is going on... Right now it's the popular thing to bash Greninja because the writers wanted to make him unique and allow Ash a Pokemon that could battle on par with Megas regularly. But that doesn't matter because whenever he shows up, even if for thirty seconds in one episode, he steals the entire episode...

And cue the angry mob saying I'm a fanboy
Its funny how for all the hate he gets Greninja is basically Ash's mega pokemon, yet in terms of win records we have
Pikachu beat Mega Lucario
Hawlucha defeated Mega Absol (annihilated is more like it since he didn't have a single scratch afterwards)
Yet Greninja only has an actual win against Mega Sceptile and lost everything else

So its not like Greninja is the mega slayer of the team, he's simply the strongest and the ace this saga (even without transforming).
If anyone deserves some hate here its Pikachu. We have Pikachu hogging multiple wins against Sawyer, while the 2 who were in need of wins both only got a draw. So if anything Pikachu is till the biggest spotlight hog on team
 
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Pokememes

I am the pokémaster!
Its funny how for all the hate he gets Greninja is basically Ash's mega pokemon, yet in terms of win records we have
Pikachu beat Mega Lucario
Hawlucha defeated Mega Absol (annihilated is more like it since he didn't have a single scratch afterwards)
Yet Greninja only has an actual win against Mega Sceptile and lost everything else

So its not like Greninja is the mega slayer of the team, he's simply the strongest and the ace this saga (even without transforming).
If anyone deserves some hate here its Pikachu. We have Pikachu hogging multiple wins against Sawyer, while the 2 who were in need of wins both only got a draw. So if anything Pikachu is till the biggest spotlight hog on team
Pikachu should be getting multiple wins? Pikachu is ash's most experience Pokemon, and at this point should be considered his strongest too. After being here for this long if something just powered through pikachu there's a problem...
 

Epicocity

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Pikachu should be getting multiple wins? Pikachu is ash's most experience Pokemon, and at this point should be considered his strongest too. After being here for this long if something just powered through pikachu there's a problem...
Also consider that Pikachu had done next to nothing after Clemont until Bergmite...which wasn't anything special.

Also, Greninja did waste Mega Abomasnow. But that's still just 1 more than 2 members of his team.
 
Its funny how for all the hate he gets Greninja is basically Ash's mega pokemon, yet in terms of win records we have
Pikachu beat Mega Lucario
Hawlucha defeated Mega Absol (annihilated is more like it since he didn't have a single scratch afterwards)
Yet Greninja only has an actual win against Mega Sceptile and lost everything else

So its not like Greninja is the mega slayer of the team, he's simply the strongest and the ace this saga (even without transforming).
If anyone deserves some hate here its Pikachu. We have Pikachu hogging multiple wins against Sawyer, while the 2 who were in need of wins both only got a draw. So if anything Pikachu is till the biggest spotlight hog on team
For all we know Absol was already severely weakened by Ash's other two pokemon. Don't make assumptions.
 

LizardonX

Banned
Why did we need this filler again? If they wanted to give Chespin some well deserved screentime in the league they should have traded it to Ash so he could participate.
 

potat_lasaro

I'm kind of alive
Why did we need this filler again? If they wanted to give Chespin some well deserved screentime in the league they should have traded it to Ash so he could participate.
Chespin at most is only going to be used within the first 5 or so minutes to introduce Mairin to the group. After that it'l be about Ash preparing for his battle and then said battle will happen sometime in the 2nd half of the episode. At worst, they literally start the match at the end so that the first matchup starts next episode.
 

AuraChannelerChris

"How did you manage to faint while standing up?"
Why did we need this filler again? If they wanted to give Chespin some well deserved screentime in the league they should have traded it to Ash so he could participate.
Last time Ash had a Piplup-like character it had a long early win streak which was utterly overshadowed by a long late string of losses.
 
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