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August 20th: PM2019 077 - A Super-Electromagnetic Hyper Class Battle!

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tsunamimijumaru

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Unless Electivire knows ET (Electric Terrain), its and Pikachu match needs to be after Luxray and Lucario, due to ET being in effect during the Electivire and Pikachu battle and Luxray starts it against Lucario. Its not in effect during Gengar vs Fan, so that means either Gengar vs Fan is the first or the last match-up (But based on the trailer, Luxray vs Lucario is most likely the first, which puts fan vs Gengar last).
Electric terrain is in effect during Gengar vs Fan
 

Shneak

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I'm glad to be getting a PWC episode airing on my birthday.

Of course we're getting Pikachu vs Electivire, I even called it when this episode was announced. Rotom Fan is an unexpected addition though and I'm interested to see it in action.
 

Almighty Zard

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i'm not so concerned about what Ash's rank is going to be after this match, even if Volkner is that high, i doubt Ash will instantly go past him since that's not how this system works.

The preview is really making it look like the 3 match ups we've been getting to be implied so far, seem to be set in stone, unless there is switching, we're goinig to have controversy when this one is over...
 

Decidueye23

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I dont think Ash is going to Lose. As much as i love Minato, i dont think He is returning again. It wiuld be interesting to see how far Ash climbs.

I feel like How ash and iris fought for entry to hyper class, Ash vs Bea would be the battle for master class
 

AuraKshatriya

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27, excuse me?!
I sure don't want Ash losing or drawing as he BEAT Volkner in the past, no that should be Flint if Ash had to battle somebody at 27. Volkner is a strong and powerful trainer sure but in no way should he be 27.

Why on earth is Ash even this high if we've still got about two years before gen 9? -_-
Well, to be fair Flint and Volkner are both friends and rivals, and Volkner's canonically strong enough to be a reasonable challenger for the Elite Four even in the games, so if they were to have a Gym Leader at 27 their only real choices were Volkner and Raihan, and Raihan already made it 8th (though after the loss to Leon he might have ranked down out of Master Class).

Brawly's been said to have trained with Bruno but those two are the only ones in the games suggested to be strong enough to defeat trainers above Gym Leader level who are still Gym Leaders themselves.

The other options were Iris, who already became Champion by doing so, Blue, whose anime counterpart Gary isn't competing and isn't a Champion (though he's probably stronger than most 8th Gym Leaders), and Wallace, who also ranked up to become a Champion.


Clair insists she could defeat Lance but it's made fairly obvious that's just bravado, and she doesn't care about that in the anime.
 

AuraKshatriya

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So taking switching into account.
Who is the Z move going to be used on?
If it weren't unclear on whether or not Motor Drive can absorb it that would be a bit easier to figure out.

If it's intended to be how Ash wins either he uses it on Luxray since Electivire would be immune, or he uses it on Electivire and it overrides Motor Drive.

If it's meant to fail, then it'll have to be on Electivire.

If anyone should be able to find a way around it Volkner should since he's the strongest Electric-type specialist we know of. But if it ends up failing against Volkner I don't think the writers will bother coming up with a reason why it would work on higher-ranked challengers even though it should. Alternatively if it works on Volkner they might treat that as its obligatory impressive showcase to lessen the blow of having it fail the next time he uses it.

It would be exciting to see it disrupt or blow back a Gigantamax Pokemon since the Guardian of Alola was also giant and got destroyed. Having Gigantamax explicitly scale higher than an ancient power belonging to a region's Guardian Deity cheapens it immensely since the former is so widespread and much less compelling. If they hadn't gone with the forced Sword and Shield promotion by making Leon Rank 1 from the start then I'd be more willing to believe Leon's Gigantamax could be overpowered by certain Z-Moves, Mega Evolution, etc.
 

Pokemonfan5

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So taking switching into account.
Who is the Z move going to be used on?
Lucario is facing Luxray, Gengar facing Rotom fan so Ash probably going to use z move on Electivire which I'm really concerned about, if Electivire motor drive ability really make him absorb entire z move than it would be huge disrespect to Pikashunium z.

I hope either Ash use it on Luxray who got switch or Electivire failed to absorb it because of too much power, (I wish Ash didn't use it at all)
 

Almighty Zard

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If it weren't unclear on whether or not Motor Drive can absorb it that would be a bit easier to figure out.

If it's intended to be how Ash wins either he uses it on Luxray since Electivire would be immune, or he uses it on Electivire and it overrides Motor Drive.
Lucario is facing Luxray, Gengar facing Rotom fan so Ash probably going to use z move on Electivire which I'm really concerned about, if Electivire motor drive ability really make him absorb entire z move than it would be huge disrespect to Pikashunium z.

I hope either Ash use it on Luxray who got switch or Electivire failed to absorb it because of too much power, (I wish Ash didn't use it at all)

Yet if it does work on Electivire, then it's not going to surprise me if people start calling the move OP and probably go on to say it needs to be banned if a pokemon that shouldn't take damage from it wasn't able to withstand it, at the same time Ash can't afford to be playing stupid at this point into the PWC.

If Electivire is on the receiving end of it, then this battle is going to spawn huge controversy, because the outcome will lead to arguments.

if it fails: what was the point of using it at all?
if it succeeds or has even some effect: how the !?! did it work!?

Granted it blew up Alola's Guardian which was a giant earth based titan, but I know how people are these days when it comes to the anime breaking game mechanics.

It would be exciting to see it disrupt or blow back a Gigantamax Pokemon since the Guardian of Alola was also giant and got destroyed. Having Gigantamax explicitly scale higher than an ancient power belonging to a region's Guardian Deity cheapens it immensely since the former is so widespread and much less compelling. If they hadn't gone with the forced Sword and Shield promotion by making Leon Rank 1 from the start then I'd be more willing to believe Leon's Gigantamax could be overpowered by certain Z-Moves, Mega Evolution, etc.

In my honest opinion, Pikachu would have a better chance of taking Leon's Zard down with his Z-move than gigantamaxing since it can't fight properly in that form.
 

Pokemonfan5

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Yet if it does work on Electivire, then it's not going to surprise me if people start calling the move OP and probably go on to say it needs to be banned if a pokemon that shouldn't take damage from it wasn't able to withstand it, at the same time Ash can't afford to be playing stupid at this point into the PWC.

If Electivire is on the receiving end of it, then this battle is going to spawn huge controversy, because the outcome will lead to arguments.

if it fails: what was the point of using it at all?
if it succeeds or has even some effect: how the !?! did it work!?

Granted it blew up Alola's Guardian which was a giant earth based titan, but I know how people are these days when it comes to the anime breaking game mechanics.
I don't think this will make huge controversy if Electivire overload with z move power as Regirock easily destroy protect barrier with stone edge which is impossible in games in first try.

Yes there will be some people complain about it but I'm sure majority will take this positively.
 
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Rank 27?

Ha ha, continue being a joke, PWC. Not even the Tomioka trio can salvage that.
It is a bit high, even for Volkner. Makes you wonder how high Elite Four members are, if there are ANY Elite Four members in the Hyper Class at all
 
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